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Completely ridiculous: SD card can't be recorded over
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Johnnybmoto
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The actuall movie, has a running time of about 1 hour and 14 minutes

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:01 pm
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Euchre
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11808 wrote:
Isn't the movie closer to just 1 hour...?
I just woke up so I'm feeling lazy or I'd look it up. Yeah.

I dunno, I just remember during my second viewing, I looked at my phone after the previews were finished and it was about 2:23, and the movie ended around 3:30.
Unless I'm going crazy. I was still there until like 3:40 watching the credits.

Okay, so I lied. And I did look it up. Runtime says 1:24 or something like that. Well, the credits are about 10 minutes long I reckon, so the movie really is closer to an hour.
Unless I'm way off in my estimate of the credits.

Either way, it's not as far off from a real SD card as people are saying.

Don't forget to subtract the Paramount and Bad Robot intros, and the US Govt. marker time - because that wasn't recorded to the SD card. Suddenly we're looking like just 1 hr of footage.

Well gee, all this fuss without any real need.
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I don't think anyone has mentioned the following points. Obviously they're not that likely, but I think they are plausible, which is enough for me.

1) Hud could have quite plausibly swapped out one SD card for another to increase recording time. We didn't see this, because the camera wouldn't be recording him swapping it, whilst there are plenty of time gaps. The same goes for having a spare battery to extend battery life, if he didn't have an extra large battery pack that was bought separately. If he didn't have a bag for the camera, he kept them in his pockets.

2) Regarding the scrambled files, I've had a similar effect on my computer. My hard drive failed and lost the file tables, basically meaning I had a folder of videos that played parts of music and vice versa, and most of my files were complete gibberish. All the files didn't point to the right location on the hard drive.

There is also a good chance that Rob used another camera in April. Hud's camera could have chewed up the original file in some way through incompatibilities in file formats, or one of them was just straight up broken. Taking this to be true, I don't find it hard to believe that after all the knocks that camera went through, combined with the two cameras methods of recording data, that there would be file errors. These errors could then be fixed to the level seen in the film by the military/government (but this fixed footage has not been edited to correct the dates).

3) It seems fairly blatant that Rob's use of "tape" is simply slang, or an error. I don't think his full attention would be on the correct term for the recording device.

4) I think the one suspension of disbelief that is needed is the file quality. I don't think the quality that we saw in cinemas would be at all representative of reality. This seems acceptable, seeing how the film would look awful otherwise.

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skatehimrock
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they could have snagged a card or battery at the closed electronics store.
maybe thats why rob was grabbing a bunch of shit instead of just a cell phone battery. Idea

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skatehimrock wrote:
they could have snagged a card or battery at the closed electronics store.
maybe thats why rob was grabbing a bunch of shit instead of just a cell phone battery. Idea

I said that exact same thing in another thread about a week or two ago.

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[quote="darkgoob"]
Psych wrote:


So again I hold that this movie must be a dream. It's the dream that the guy who was going to Japan was having, probably after he saw the love of his life show up at his party with her new boyfriend. He had a dream that then a monster attacks the city and he gets to go rescue her but dies at the end.

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This the silliest thing I've ever heard. Who the hell has dreams that are appear to be the government replaying a video taken from the first person view of one of their friends?

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[quote="lapierre520"]
darkgoob wrote:
Psych wrote:


So again I hold that this movie must be a dream. It's the dream that the guy who was going to Japan was having, probably after he saw the love of his life show up at his party with her new boyfriend. He had a dream that then a monster attacks the city and he gets to go rescue her but dies at the end.

-=DG=-


This the silliest thing I've ever heard. Who the hell has dreams that are appear to be the government replaying a video taken from the first person view of one of their friends?



Almost as silly as a giant lion from the sea... Razz
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Re: Completely ridiculous: SD card can't be recorded over

darkgoob wrote:
OK. There is a MAJOR inconsistency in this movie. Rolling Eyes

At the beginning of the movie, the text on the screen says that it's an "SD Card" that has been recovered from Central Park.

However, the whole premise of the movie was that it was recorded over a previous video. The guy at the beginning asks if his brother took out the "tape" before starting to shoot the footage.

However if it's a "tape" based camera, and obviously the footage is HD quality, so the only kind of camera it could have been is an HDV camera. HDV cameras have a maximum recording time of 1 hour. That's by far not enough time for this movie.

Also the fact that the video camera has an "infrared" mode indicates that it *has* to be a Sony video camera. There's not very many Sony video cameras that have NightShot *and* a built-in video light *and* run on HDV tapes. In fact I don't know of a single one. And NO Sony video camera uses SD cards!!

But it doesn't matter, because the maximum recording time of HDV cassete tapes is only 63 minutes! It could not record for as long as this film. So it had to be a memory-card-based system since they have longer recording times. However, can you show me an HD camcorder that takes SD cards, has a night shot mode, and has a built-in video light?

But it doesn't matter, because if it was an SD-card based camera, why would all the characters keep saying it was "tape"? And also, it would have been impossible to "record over" the previous recordings, since on SD-card based camcorders, every time you start recording, it makes a new file. You can only delete files, but you can't record over portions of files.

So all-in-all, the fact is, this is a huge gaping plot-hole that is completely inconsistent. And frankly, I think it proves that this movie is supposed to be the dream of one of the characters. (At one point one character does say "this is a nightmare" or something like that.) Because there's no way this could happen in reality, even if there WAS a monster that was real.

-=DG=-


HandyCam videos don't usually have "cigarette burns" (cue marks) in them either, but I didn't let those ruin the movie for me.

BTW, Giant monsters don't really exist so that's "Completely ridiculous" too. Didn't that bother you about the movie as well?
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Abrams and Reeves both stated that several cameras were used for the filming. Think about it logically - it would be nearly impossible to film a movie with one type of CONSUMER camera. The logistics would be horrid, the footage would be a bitch to edit, and the quality would be sub-par. With the multiple takes required to make a movie, you need a bevy of cameras and types of cameras and, taking the fact that this is formatted for the big screen and looks incredible on it, I think they did an outstanding job. Don't let the fact that logistics are a part of the real world convince you that the movie is a dream, and please don't tell us we're out and out wrong if we disagree.

I can't believe we're still talking in this thread. Can we kick-start Paramount a little and get some sort of new Cloverfield content already?
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Matt9882 wrote:
Abrams and Reeves both stated that several cameras were used for the filming. Think about it logically - it would be nearly impossible to film a movie with one type of CONSUMER camera. The logistics would be horrid, the footage would be a bitch to edit, and the quality would be sub-par. With the multiple takes required to make a movie, you need a bevy of cameras and types of cameras and, taking the fact that this is formatted for the big screen and looks incredible on it, I think they did an outstanding job. Don't let the fact that logistics are a part of the real world convince you that the movie is a dream, and please don't tell us we're out and out wrong if we disagree.

I can't believe we're still talking in this thread. Can we kick-start Paramount a little and get some sort of new Cloverfield content already?




Just tell me who to kick, and sir they will be kick-ified
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guerra001 wrote:

Just tell me who to kick, and sir they will be kick-ified



Amy Powell.
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=464413
See my post (About 7 posts down)
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Matt9882 wrote:
guerra001 wrote:

Just tell me who to kick, and sir they will be kick-ified



Amy Powell.
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=464413
See my post (About 7 posts down)




Oh she is so getting drop-kicked Twisted Evil
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PLEASE for the sake of everyone on the forums let this thread DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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