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LazarusLong
Unfettered
Joined: 20 Mar 2003 Posts: 453 Location: 93 miles SW of Ted Kaczynski's cabin
Email from caretaker
Quote:
From: "t jones" <caretaker@blackvault.com>
Date: Tue Sep 9, 2003 11:35:10 PM US/Mountain
To: caretakerSPLAT blackvault.com
Subject: You've come this far.
Can you be trusted?
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Want Free email? Check out http://www.blackvault.com for details.
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Express yourself with a super cool email address from BigMailBox.com.
Hundreds of choices. It's free!
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HSHIJCRJBFNRCWXAZTIWTGSYEXGWJDECYQRGUULOCRTBVIWULSCPTSD
WZVVHQHTKQGPUUMLLREDUDMFJNSNERBHJASCSJYDDAGWCJWDVPJZDHF
XMEREKYHVLURYCWXFIFIUAFWCIFNHDIXJJMXOZYASXEPOBTIEMGZGYHLA
XLCAKRHEOMJTIBNDKGIAPYLGPTOSTWZYJWEJPZAJEBTJMTXRQCTYNIPUY
AWLKXVTHRHJJOTOHQSGRXFIVFXWVFRPDSQIWUEUTMYEZAEJQLVPZAVP
HHDEDLDDQRWWHXEWOPQAJPVVOBOSUYCBWAKRHDRSQNDNCVUNXNIM
PKAQFXALEOFEHJVAURXLQARGUZYYGVYAAENXSYKSFEGFYISLCSICQSFK
USFHDFDFFPYHIMMVRSTKXEPXQWEARJLOPUUQLEVGKYEHTDZCKYRPQEB
UDASRGAGVTTEPDVFDKSUFIILGJRIVIFBYOMSCXYMZXCVCREWNFZOOZR
DNRBVIAYCKPSSIAAQDZSYPMJOLKVZIBGBEMFATMDFNNMOEHCLNMFWBZ
QADVDBKYPFWERANJRLAGPUQZSYSUYLZEFJAYHPLSWWWHOJNSTBXRMD
SZIKVFEPUSYTAWEDVAL
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- y"&,@l%\v;>!f)q$}i*t+#^/b -
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- a?=s^-_\@d#&,o(._%g*@:"/c -
Looks like the game is on - let's get cracking!
_________________"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea."
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 1:43 am
MageSteff
Pretty talky there aintcha, Talky?
Joined: 06 Jun 2003 Posts: 2716 Location: State of Denial
Caretaker e-mail Interesting sig...nificator....
_________________Magesteff
A small group of thoughtful people could change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has. - Margaret Mead
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 2:52 am
grumpyboy
Unfettered
Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 660
Something strange about this email. The part with:
Quote:
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is a footer that's added by bigmailbox.com so anything that the sender writes, including a sig, should come before that (i.e. sender should not be able to type a message after that footer since it's added after he hits send). The only thing I can find that can come after that part should be attachments...
I'm probably wrong on this so maybe someone can explain...
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 6:34 am
Sin Vraal
Decorated
Joined: 28 Nov 2002 Posts: 219 Location: NJ
Email confirmed Just to note I got the same email - I threw a copy over in Puzzles before I noticed this thread here.
-SV
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 6:55 am
grumpyboy
Unfettered
Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 660
ah, i get it. after playing around with headers and footers, i found that that text at the end IS an attachment (filename "earn.txt" - get it? earn his trust). I guess most email programs just add the text of *.txt files right to the email itself...
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 7:01 am
Sin Vraal
Decorated
Joined: 28 Nov 2002 Posts: 219 Location: NJ
Be advised Be advised that there are 625 characters in the initial string - a 25x25 grid seems convenient:
HSHIJCRJBFNRCWXAZTIWTGSYE
XGWJDECYQRGUULOCRTBVIWULS
CPTSDWZVVHQHTKQGPUUMLLRED
UDMFJNSNERBHJASCSJYDDAGWC
JWDVPJZDHFXMEREKYHVLURYCW
XFIFIUAFWCIFNHDIXJJMXOZYA
SXEPOBTIEMGZGYHLAXLCAKRHE
OMJTIBNDKGIAPYLGPTOSTWZYJ
WEJPZAJEBTJMTXRQCTYNIPUYA
WLKXVTHRHJJOTOHQSGRXFIVFX
WVFRPDSQIWUEUTMYEZAEJQLVP
ZAVPHHDEDLDDQRWWHXEWOPQAJ
PVVOBOSUYCBWAKRHDRSQNDNCV
UNXNIMPKAQFXALEOFEHJVAURX
LQARGUZYYGVYAAENXSYKSFEGF
YISLCSICQSFKUSFHDFDFFPYHI
MMVRSTKXEPXQWEARJLOPUUQLE
VGKYEHTDZCKYRPQEBUDASRGAG
VTTEPDVFDKSUFIILGJRIVIFBY
OMSCXYMZXCVCREWNFZOOZRDNR
BVIAYCKPSSIAAQDZSYPMJOLKV
ZIBGBEMFATMDFNNMOEHCLNMFW
BZQADVDBKYPFWERANJRLAGPUQ
ZSYSUYLZEFJAYHPLSWWWHOJNS
TBXRMDSZIKVFEPUSYTAWEDVAL
The 2 strings in the "box" at the bottom of the e-mail are also 25 characters long each:
y"&,@l%\v;>!f)q$}i*t+#^/b
a?=s^-_\@d#&,o(._%g*@:"/c
Not that I've figured how they may relate, but this smells fishier than Madonna did in the 80s...
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 7:31 am
ramiles
Unfettered
Joined: 28 Aug 2003 Posts: 362 Location: Chicago
GOT THE SAME MESSAGE...
WIll work on when i get home
this is a tough one...
We need to figure out the key to get the messasge
I ran it though the Vin Decoder using single letter keys from (A to Z) on just the 1st line and nothing.
so its not a single letter Key, maybe rot-x who knows.. I will keep cracking at it.
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 8:28 am
MageSteff
Pretty talky there aintcha, Talky?
Joined: 06 Jun 2003 Posts: 2716 Location: State of Denial
Question about TO line Got a question gang....
the To: header ain't the address my letter was "addressed" to... sure I could be a BCC, but then who is the guy listed at the top of the food chain?
Quote:
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 11:23:30 -0700
From: "t jones" <caretaker@blackvault.com> [add to address book] [protect or block sender]
Subject: You've come this far
To: peter.bienstmanSPLAT ugent.be
Should I PING Mr. Bienstman? Or is this one of you?
_________________Magesteff
A small group of thoughtful people could change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has. - Margaret Mead
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 5:27 pm
Varin
I Have No Life
Joined: 02 Dec 2002 Posts: 2456 Location: South of where I used to be
Re: Question about TO line
Magesteff wrote:
Should I PING Mr. Bienstman? Or is this one of you?
Well, I just googled the email address and got a couple of not in-game hits. Looks like he's a researcher at a belgium uni and is into interactive fiction and adventure games. Are you here Peter?
_________________"I still miss him to this day and probably always will." - Todd Keeler, Chasing the Wish
"meta meta meta, I made you out of play..." ~ j5
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 6:15 pm
sauceykat
Decorated
Joined: 10 Jul 2003 Posts: 251 Location: BC>Canada
Re: Question about TO line
Magesteff wrote:
Got a question gang....
the To: header ain't the address my letter was "addressed" to... sure I could be a BCC, but then who is the guy listed at the top of the food chain?
Quote:
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 11:23:30 -0700
From: "t jones" <caretaker@blackvault.com> [add to address book] [protect or block sender]
Subject: You've come this far
To: peter.bienstmanSPLAT ugent.be
Should I PING Mr. Bienstman? Or is this one of you?
That's weird...my email wasn't addressed to Mr. Bienstman...it was from T. JOnes (caretakerSPLAT blackvault.com) to caretakerSPLAT blackvault.com.
Now when I send stuff at work to our agents I send it to myself and bcc it to all the people on my distribution list so they don't all know who it's going to....
D-
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 6:46 pm
h4d35
Greenhorn
Joined: 10 Sep 2003 Posts: 8 Location: Sweden
Is there something about 25?
http://www.blackvault.com
http://www.bigmailbox.com
peter.bienstmanatugent.be (replaced the @ with 'at')
caretakeratblackvault.com
y"&,@l%\v;>!f)q$}i*t+#^/b
a?=s^-_\@d#&,o(._%g*@:"/c
sqrt(625) = 25
might just be clutching at straws...
what do you think?
i wrote a proggy from trying out the 25x25 grid idea... havnt found anything really interesting.. i ran some of the results through the anagram service... noticed nothing really interesting... ://
Code:
#include <iostream>
#include <string>
using namespace std;
int main(void)
{
string decode, key1, key2;
int i;
key1 = "y\"&,@l%\v;>!f)q$}i*t+#^/b";
key2 = "a?=s^-_\\@d#&,o(._%g*@:\"/c";
decode = "HSHIJCRJBFNRCWXAZTIWTGSYEXGWJDECYQRGUULOCRTBVIWULSCPT
SDWZVVHQHTKQGPUUMLLREDUDMFJNSNERBHJASCSJYDDAGWCJWDVPJ
ZDHFXMEREKYHVLURYCWXFIFIUAFWCIFNHDIXJJMXOZYASXEPOBTIEMGZ
GYHLAXLCAKRHEOMJTIBNDKGIAPYLGPTOSTWZYJWEJPZAJEBTJMTXRQCT
YNIPUYAWLKXVTHRHJJOTOHQSGRXFIVFXWVFRPDSQIWUEUTMYEZAEJQL
VPZAVPHHDEDLDDQRWWHXEWOPQAJPVVOBOSUYCBWAKRHDRSQNDNC
VUNXNIMPKAQFXALEOFEHJVAURXLQARGUZYYGVYAAENXSYKSFEGFYISLC
SICQSFKUSFHDFDFFPYHIMMVRSTKXEPXQWEARJLOPUUQLEVGKYEHTDZC
KYRPQEBUDASRGAGVTTEPDVFDKSUFIILGJRIVIFBYOMSCXYMZXCVCREW
NFZOOZRDNRBVIAYCKPSSIAAQDZSYPMJOLKVZIBGBEMFATMDFNNMOEH
CLNMFWBZQADVDBKYPFWERANJRLAGPUQZSYSUYLZEFJAYHPLSWWWHOJ
NSTBXRMDSZIKVFEPUSYTAWEDVAL";
for (i=0; i < key1.length(); i++)
{
cout << decode[(25*(int)key2[i])+((int)key1[i])]; // key2 = y , key1=x ?
}
cout << endl;
return 0;
}
Also, counted the characters...
A : 33
B : 16
C : 21
D : 30
E : 33
F : 29
G : 19
H : 24
I : 25
J : 26
K : 17
L : 23
M : 19
N : 18
O : 18
P : 25
Q : 19
R : 29
S : 32
T : 22
U : 23
V : 26
W : 26
X : 22
Y : 30
Z : 20
They seem too close to each other to be Letter-substitution crypto...
I think its got something to do with the 25x25 grid...?
Sleep sleep, sweet bed.
/Hannes
9/10/03 7:08 pm CDT edited by Addlepated to wrap the long lines.
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 6:50 pm
h4d35
Greenhorn
Joined: 10 Sep 2003 Posts: 8 Location: Sweden
by the way.. "t jones" = "tom jones"?
maybe a lyrics search for:
"You've come this far.
Can you be trusted?"
bah... bed now? trying!
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 6:54 pm
MageSteff
Pretty talky there aintcha, Talky?
Joined: 06 Jun 2003 Posts: 2716 Location: State of Denial
h4d35 wrote:
Is there something about 25?
...
...
/Hannes
Hannes, please be a sweetie and put some breaks in the decode string, or snip it since we have it listed in full elsewhere, the end falls of the page...
***EDIT***
Thank you!
_________________Magesteff
A small group of thoughtful people could change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has. - Margaret Mead
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 7:20 pm
Last edited by MageSteff on Thu Sep 11, 2003 9:25 pm; edited 1 time in total
sauceykat
Decorated
Joined: 10 Jul 2003 Posts: 251 Location: BC>Canada
Does anybody know anything about PGP???
I just did some brief cryptography research (I'm a n00b, bare with me ) and was thinking maybe those codes in the boxes below are the pgp passphrases/keys? But I don't really know enough about that format to really understand it.
Ideas???
Thx, D-
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 2:05 am
StarkRavingMad
Decorated
Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Posts: 250
sauceykat wrote:
Does anybody know anything about PGP???
I just did some brief cryptography research (I'm a n00b, bare with me ) and was thinking maybe those codes in the boxes below are the pgp passphrases/keys? But I don't really know enough about that format to really understand it.
-
I considered that, but I couldn't get a key to extract from that text. Maybe someone better at PGP than me should try.
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 12:14 pm
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