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[SPEC]The Tagruato Satellite
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d0nu7
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The only qualm I have about the satellite falling is that it seems like such a small splash in the pictures I have seen(I did not see it when I watched the movie). A satellite falling from space would probably be going quite fast and hit with a lot of force(I'm not ignoring terminal velocity, the space shuttle has to do s turns because it is going about 18,000 mph in orbit, and friction in the atmosphere won't slow it down to terminal velocity before it hits the ground). So unless that satellite hit very far out, I doubt it would make a small splash, unless it is quite small which could be possible too.
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From what I know it's just a fragment of the satellite. I also doubt the entire satellite would fall.

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Marcanadian wrote:
From what I know it's just a fragment of the satellite. I also doubt the entire satellite would fall.


I'd think it would break up in the atmosphere.

Or maybe, the hint is that it IS a Tag satellite, meaning Tag did it all along, with Chuai.

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Matt Reeves Interview concerning falling thing falling out of the sky at the end:
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=41100

Trout

And I think you guys should continue here:
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=23676&highlight=satellite+tagruato
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I vote the Satellite contained the parasites somehow. (work with me here!)

Perhaps the monster around for 1000's of years is connected to sea bed necter in some way; it's blood maybe having the same regenerative properties that sea bed necter does.

The logic is the parasites from space found the monster, got into it's blood, got bigger and behold!

Well, OK, it's a stretch.

I really have a hard time finding the relevance of a satellite going down that wasn't even owned by Tagruato Corp.

From the Targuato website news, "In their latest gesture to reach out to fellow man, Tagruato used the Hatsui satellite to try to identify a rogue piece that is thought to have fallen off of the Japanese Government's "ChimpanzIII" satellite."


One other possibility I saw was that Tagruato's own satellite BLEW UP the Japanese Government satellite, to keep the government satellite from spying on them. There's really no evidence for this.

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Roe wrote:
I vote the Satellite contained the parasites somehow. (work with me here!)

Perhaps the monster around for 1000's of years is connected to sea bed necter in some way; it's blood maybe having the same regenerative properties that sea bed necter does.

The logic is the parasites from space found the monster, got into it's blood, got bigger and behold!

Well, OK, it's a stretch.

I really have a hard time finding the relevance of a satellite going down that wasn't even owned by Tagruato Corp.

Good theories though. And I guess this isn't going to continue in the other thread.
From the Targuato website news, latest gest"In their ure to reach out to fellow man, Tagruato used the Hatsui satellite to try to identify a rogue piece that is thought to have fallen off of the Japanese Government's "ChimpanzIII" satellite."


One other possibility I saw was that Tagruato's own satellite BLEW UP the Japanese Government satellite, to keep the government satellite from spying on them. There's really no evidence for this.



I would work with you there but here:
http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/01/09/cloverfield-building-a-better-monster/

Abrams talks about the parasites as a "post-birth ritual".


Bold Futura is a subsidiary of Tagruato and the headlines says "Hatsui Satellite Works for the Futura" so for the time being the satellite belongs to Tagruato.
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Roe
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dairyking08 wrote:
Roe wrote:
I vote the Satellite contained the parasites somehow. (work with me here!)

Perhaps the monster around for 1000's of years is connected to sea bed necter in some way; it's blood maybe having the same regenerative properties that sea bed necter does.

The logic is the parasites from space found the monster, got into it's blood, got bigger and behold!

Well, OK, it's a stretch.

I really have a hard time finding the relevance of a satellite going down that wasn't even owned by Tagruato Corp.

Good theories though. And I guess this isn't going to continue in the other thread.
From the Targuato website news, latest gest"In their ure to reach out to fellow man, Tagruato used the Hatsui satellite to try to identify a rogue piece that is thought to have fallen off of the Japanese Government's "ChimpanzIII" satellite."


One other possibility I saw was that Tagruato's own satellite BLEW UP the Japanese Government satellite, to keep the government satellite from spying on them. There's really no evidence for this.



I would work with you there but here:
http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/01/09/cloverfield-building-a-better-monster/

Abrams talks about the parasites as a "post-birth ritual".


Bold Futura is a subsidiary of Tagruato and the headlines says "Hatsui Satellite Works for the Futura" so for the time being the satellite belongs to Tagruato.


The rogue piece which fell didn't belong to Tagruato was my point. If it was a satellite which fell into the ocean, it was from the Japanese Government's "ChimpanzIII" satellite.

And as for the link, WOOT! New information for me.

I've been dying to bring this up and honestly haven't seen anyone talk about the origins of the parasites. Many, many thanks.


Edit: I have actually read the information on the link as the Offical Production notes. However, when I read the take on the parasites, I totally missed the post birth ritual part. I am glad you brought it up.

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Roe wrote:
dairyking08 wrote:
Roe wrote:
I vote the Satellite contained the parasites somehow. (work with me here!)

Perhaps the monster around for 1000's of years is connected to sea bed necter in some way; it's blood maybe having the same regenerative properties that sea bed necter does.

The logic is the parasites from space found the monster, got into it's blood, got bigger and behold!

Well, OK, it's a stretch.

I really have a hard time finding the relevance of a satellite going down that wasn't even owned by Tagruato Corp.

Good theories though. And I guess this isn't going to continue in the other thread.
From the Targuato website news, latest gest"In their ure to reach out to fellow man, Tagruato used the Hatsui satellite to try to identify a rogue piece that is thought to have fallen off of the Japanese Government's "ChimpanzIII" satellite."


One other possibility I saw was that Tagruato's own satellite BLEW UP the Japanese Government satellite, to keep the government satellite from spying on them. There's really no evidence for this.



I would work with you there but here:
http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/01/09/cloverfield-building-a-better-monster/

Abrams talks about the parasites as a "post-birth ritual".


Bold Futura is a subsidiary of Tagruato and the headlines says "Hatsui Satellite Works for the Futura" so for the time being the satellite belongs to Tagruato.


The rogue piece which fell didn't belong to Tagruato was my point. If it was a satellite which fell into the ocean, it was from the Japanese Government's "ChimpanzIII" satellite.

And as for the link, WOOT! New information for me.

I've been dying to bring this up and honestly haven't seen anyone talk about the origins of the parasites. Many, many thanks.


Edit: I have actually read the information on the link as the Offical Production notes. However, when I read the take on the parasites, I totally missed the post birth ritual part. I am glad you brought it up.



Okay I see your point with the rogue piece. Good theory. You're welcome for the link.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:07 pm
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monster = whale, as parasites equals it's barnacles... great to know where they came from... and the sea bed nectar gives regenerative powers! never thought of that... explains why the monster doesn't have a scratch on him when he takes out hud

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call me fucking crazy, but how the hell would a satellite survive falling from orbit and not burn, let alone not explode on contact from the water and make it maybe...100 feet tops under water? i dont even think itd make it 50 ft, it would just disapate on the surface. perhaps it was an asteroid? plain and simple or a missile/rocket launched from space. hell, could have even been a missile launched from earth itself! just from another location! just because it came from the sky, doesnt mean its necessarily from space.

the fact that it wasnt on fire as well when it was falling also makes me believe it was not from space.

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Graham6222
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It's basically suppost to be in fragments. They went searching for the pieces.

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The Satellite

As I understood the issue with the Satellite on Tagruato's website and news updates is as follows:

The Satellite was tracking a piece from another Japanese space craft that they had pinpointed to as falling somewhere in the Atlantic Ocean and were going to go an retrieve it in order to 'protect the ocean' from space pollution. It was not the Satellite itself which fell, the satellite was able to pick up on this other shuttle piece- and this was what Tagruato was trying to retrieve when they awoke the monster.

I don't know where everyone got this information about the Satellite falling, because there is absolutely nothing on the tagruato website saying that. THe only thing they mention ending up in the Atlantic Ocean was the Space craft part that was being tracked BY the Satellite.

Go check out the news and stuff on Tagruato- and give me a link if I'm wrong- because I'd love to know.

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Thats about what I wrote sounds fairly accurate but if the monster is awoken why did it not attack until way way later.

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d0nu7 wrote:
The only qualm I have about the satellite falling is that it seems like such a small splash in the pictures I have seen(I did not see it when I watched the movie). A satellite falling from space would probably be going quite fast and hit with a lot of force(I'm not ignoring terminal velocity, the space shuttle has to do s turns because it is going about 18,000 mph in orbit, and friction in the atmosphere won't slow it down to terminal velocity before it hits the ground). So unless that satellite hit very far out, I doubt it would make a small splash, unless it is quite small which could be possible too.


Not to mention NASA has to be silent about it coming down and allowing people to go out the beach so close to the impact zone.
Oh and wouldn't everyone being point up at the sky and go "Ooohhh pretty fireball..........wait.....its coming here, EVERYBODY PANIC" as the thing, you know, re-enters the friggin atmosphere! Or is this another thing where the basic laws of nature do not apply?

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Chimp and chees in Slusho! Commercial
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"Tagruato used the Hatsui satellite to try to identify a rogue piece that is thought to have fallen off of the Japanese Government's "ChimpanzIII" satellite. Although Hatsui's work has not yet been able to confirm the identity of the fallen piece, Tagruato scientists and engineers are busily trying to track and recover the fragment. According to Hatsui data, it disappeared into the Atlantic Ocean late last week." Quote from Tagruato website.

My first question is what would make a piece "fall" off a satellite? Was there some type of collision in space? If so, what was the collision with? A meteor, comet, another satellite, UFO that cruised by Texas? What if it was a meteor that was the cause of the collision and some organic material was transferred onto the rogue piece and was able to withstand entry into our atmosphere and grow in the deep sea environment with the help of DSN? What is the significance of the chimp holding the cheese flag at the end of the Slusho! commercial, "ChimpanzIII with bacteria"? Maybe this latest event is just a repeat of a similar event that took place thousands of years ago and Tagruato's drilling initiated the awakening of the growth process.

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