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[jamman1]

I see it as a matter of escalation. Even if the bomb dropped at the end of the film wasn't nuclear, you can bet that a nuke would be their next option if MGP is still alive. I think that a small tactical nuke would cause less collateral damage than MGP ultimately would if it were allowed to live (damage not just from him, but from the repeated, useless bombing).

Sometimes people in power have to make terrible decisions, which is why I will never be president.

NORAD: "Mr. President, we need those authorization codes!"

Random Official (picking up dropped phone): "Uhh…the president just shat himself, and then ran out of the room screaming that we're all going to die."

NORAD: "Sucks to be you. At least I'm underneath a mountain."

Random Official: "Shut up."

[Zaggs]

[kevrock]

Unless they were very close to ground zero, the heat most likely woudln't have affected it. I'd be more worried about the affects of the EMP on the memory card. Depending on the trajectory of the blast, the stone bridge would have protected them from most of the radiation, too. There's stories of Hiroshima survivors who ducked behind concrete walls and were sparred from the brunt of the blast.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_nuclear_explosions

[starshiptrooper]

Houston had NOT already been destroyed in ID4 before they nuked the spacecraft. Not that it matters, just thought I'd clarify that, since that seems to be the one movie everybody is on to prove why we wouldn't nuke a city.

A small tactical nuke would be the way to go, in case their last assault failed. Another thing everybody keeps throwing out is the value of New York. "Everybody has a stake in NY, No way we'd bomb it."

Perhaps you guys were asleep during the movie, or maybe missed the dialogue by the Soldier helping Rob.

Soldier: "We're going to flatten this whole area."

Rob: "Midtown?"

Soldier: "No, Manhatten."

So, in the end, whether the city is flattened by carpet bombing, or a nuke, it's still most definitely gone.

"Area FORMERLY KNOWN as Central Park". Why isn't it still Central Park? Because it ain't there no more.

What were we talking about again?

[The Stray]

Ehem.

[The Professor]

How much you people underestimate the power of a nuclear weapon, be it tactical or not, astonishes and disturbs me. Do honestly believe that the camera could be protected from the radiation by rubble? This is not an atomic bomb made in the 40s', this is a weapon of amazing power with a larger blast radius. Not to mention how close they would be to the epicenter of the nuclear weapon. If they used one, they would certainly fire it directly on the MGP, which might I add was still in the same FREAKING PARK!!!!!

Not to mention that a nuclear blast does not work like the one or should I say ones that we saw. It was one blast that collapsed the tunnel and setting fire and then a second which actually killed Rob and Beth. Should it have been a nuclear weapon, regardless of the yield, all we would have seen was a bright flash which would have destroyed everything and the camera would have still melted.

I'm not saying that there would be no will to use it, I'm saying that they didn't use it. But speaking from a tactical view point, it would be as efficient with less collateral if they let it out to sea and then unleash all the nuclear hellfire on it using nuclear submarines and whatever else, they have an entire nuclear bombardment of it's position. I'm not saying that they wouldn't use a nuclear weapon on it in NYC, but everything points to the fact that they didn't.

[Nighthawk]

[starshiptrooper]

I just watched it last night.

"Which City's up NEXT?"

"That'd be Houston, Texas"

"Oh... Houston."

Plenty of shots of the observation unit on the overpass into downtown.. it's still there. Shots of the city below the Destroyer before deployment.

And a comment of

"Most of the major cities have been deserted, civilian casualties should be at a minimum."

Shall we start an ID4 discussion thread? I love that movie. Would've been a great ARG to play, but it came too soon.

[Ghidra99]

[Master Shake]

There was one shot that I was wondering about. In the scene where the four are running for the helicopters and MGP is walking alongside them, there is that part when a mobile artillery piece (pretty sure it's not a tank) gets stepped on and presumably squished by MGP. Would it be possible to squish a 70-ton hunk of armor? I mean, squishing a car or jeep is one thing, but I don't know about the armor. It would be like stepping on a Matchbox car. You would break the wheels off and maybe anything that was sticking out, but I doubt you would completely squish the car.

[skatehimrock]

did someone just ask why it said formally central park and not just central park.

wow. you must be more retarded than i thought.
Formally. as in the formal name for the place.
like the government name could be area 2424874 NY.
but they give them FORMAL names to make it easier.

i think you got Formal mixed with another word?

[lazarusHART]

[guerra001]

[konamouse]

Please be nice to eachother. No reason to call anyone a name.

Thanks!

[suckaH]