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jamman1
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Zaggs wrote:
The first part is they really didn't care. Why would they? The Colonel in charge is trying to give order and get people who should be leaving to go and probably doesnt have time for an interview (he wouldn't know if they were press). But being that this is not a top secret operation why take the camera?

As for the choppers? Maybe most had already made it out of the city. Maybe that wasn't the only evac point. Its not like all the army's forces are right there. Just a couple tanks/artillery, jeeps and the hospital. Seems just like an outpost, one of several maybe they set up (not alot of civilians tyhere either). Keep in mind the character in charge there is listed only as a lieutenant colonel. Going by wikipedia it means at best he is in charge of 1000 troops (but maybe less) which isn't a whole lot relatively speaking (a division runs about 10,500 troops and usually has a general in charge which is 2 steps away from the Lt Col). Maybe 1000 troops is all they could get going in such a short amount of time, though most likely the lack of people had to do with the budget of the movie. its also possible they knew not everyone was going to get out and it was more important to kill the creature there before it got away.


Mmmm...good points. I agree with you on the camera thing, and I think I did hear the lieutenant colonel (thanks for the info, by the way) say those were the last choppers out of the entire city, although, I'm probably wrong, or a little retarted Smile. So, that makes sense with a smaller amount of troops. Oh well, it doesn't really matter anyway. It moved the plot along, and gave us a cool chopper view of the traffic situation (giant monster is making it hard to get around the city today, and you can forget about taking the bridge to work).

*Edited to make it less retarted*

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Now that jamman1 brought up inconsistencies, I thought of one.


The hazmat people that took Marlena, they may have taken her because they thought the effects of the bite were contagious. If so, when they saw Rob, Lily & Hud with her, why didn't they take them too as a precaution, just in case.


It made sense once I thought about it. Grabbing Marlena was less about contagion and more about sanitation. The last thing you want in a triage center is someone spewing blood and guts all over the place. So, they isolated her as quickly as they could. Same with the hazmat suits. When she popped, it probably aersolized some of her body fluids. You don't want to breath that in. Even if she wasn't contagious with something from the parasites, there are other blood-borne diseases to worry about.


Yeah I thought about this too.
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m_talon wrote:


It made sense once I thought about it. Grabbing Marlena was less about contagion and more about sanitation. The last thing you want in a triage center is someone spewing blood and guts all over the place. So, they isolated her as quickly as they could. Same with the hazmat suits. When she popped, it probably aersolized some of her body fluids. You don't want to breath that in. Even if she wasn't contagious with something from the parasites, there are other blood-borne diseases to worry about.


Yeah, breathing in blood spray isn't fun for anyone. Plus they want to keep the floors from getting slippery. Safety first!

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I think they didn't because they didn't seem bitten, and I think they take them into that area to prevent blood from splattering everywhere more than anything.


Or they just didn't know if it was contagious or not. All they knew is that bite wounds lead to asplode, the news report in the electronics store showed the little buggers attacking people so already a number of bites enough to draw up the obvious conclusion. But that may lead to a chemical or chemical reaction, hence why take chances.

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Zaggs wrote:
d0nu7 wrote:
I think they didn't because they didn't seem bitten, and I think they take them into that area to prevent blood from splattering everywhere more than anything.


Or they just didn't know if it was contagious or not. All they knew is that bite wounds lead to asplode, the news report in the electronics store showed the little buggers attacking people so already a number of bites enough to draw up the obvious conclusion. But that may lead to a chemical or chemical reaction, hence why take chances.


Yeah, anything that is leathal enough to make people explode is probably something that you don't want to get in your eyes.

I just want to say that I think it's cool that one reflection of how crazy dangerous MGP is, is that even his crab's (Monstrum Toxicum Parasitus) saliva is toxic enough to make people explode like they got put into a microwave without holes getting poked in them first.

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jamman1 wrote:
m_talon wrote:


It made sense once I thought about it. Grabbing Marlena was less about contagion and more about sanitation. The last thing you want in a triage center is someone spewing blood and guts all over the place. So, they isolated her as quickly as they could. Same with the hazmat suits. When she popped, it probably aersolized some of her body fluids. You don't want to breath that in. Even if she wasn't contagious with something from the parasites, there are other blood-borne diseases to worry about.


Yeah, breathing in blood spray isn't fun for anyone. Plus they want to keep the floors from getting slippery. Safety first!


"Take her in to the specially prepared bursting room, STAT!"

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Nighthawk wrote:
jamman1 wrote:
m_talon wrote:


It made sense once I thought about it. Grabbing Marlena was less about contagion and more about sanitation. The last thing you want in a triage center is someone spewing blood and guts all over the place. So, they isolated her as quickly as they could. Same with the hazmat suits. When she popped, it probably aersolized some of her body fluids. You don't want to breath that in. Even if she wasn't contagious with something from the parasites, there are other blood-borne diseases to worry about.


Yeah, breathing in blood spray isn't fun for anyone. Plus they want to keep the floors from getting slippery. Safety first!


"Take her in to the specially prepared bursting room, STAT!"


"What is this? Where am I?"

"Uhh..err...*cough*theburstingroom*cough*"

"What?!?"

*door slams*

"Crap."

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 		Whats sad is when HUD is filming her being dragged away and she was screaming his name. I almost thought about shedding a tear.
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 		She was? Wow. With all the other action going on in the room I didn't pick up on that and it *is* heartbreaking. Extreme situations can create some interesting bonds... I don't want to think about what would have happened if they got out together because it's too sad that they didn't.

Before the solider tells Rob and the others where to go and what to do, he makes a comment along the lines of "I shouldn't be doing this." That plus there doesn't seem to be any other civis around then area when they get there leaves me to believe that it was set up as a military evac point.

As for not taking the camera, there is a chunk of time missing between the "put the camera down" and the next "scene". There could have been a scuffle or something about it we just didn't get to see.

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resistwemust wrote:
Whats sad is when HUD is filming her being dragged away and she was screaming his name. I almost thought about shedding a tear.


Yeah, I was sad too, but I was mostly kind of shell shocked. I knew it was going to happen, but it happened so fast! There was good reason for their hustle. It was like watching people react to a puppy that's about to shit on the carpet.

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Think wrote:

"Before the solider tells Rob and the others where to go and what to do, he makes a comment along the lines of "I shouldn't be doing this." That plus there doesn't seem to be any other civis around then area when they get there..."

"...As for not taking the camera, there is a chunk of time missing between the "put the camera down" and the next "scene". There could have been a scuffle or something about it we just didn't get to see."


Didn't think of those either. Good points.

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lazarusHART wrote:

Yeah, almost like "Rambo: Neighborhood Watch"


I vote that from now on that's what we call all those super friendly Cloverfield soldiers who tried to do everything they could to save a small group of "retarted" citizens.

Rambo Neighborhood Watch (RNW)

Dig it.

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 		Can you dig it...SUCKAAAAAA!!!!

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lazarusHART wrote:
jamman1 wrote:
Good point. I just thought it was funny to see the millitary potrayed as such a helpful organization.


Yeah, but this is happening on US soil, not in another country...Not to offend or anything... Laughing Laughing


jamman1 wrote:
Almost like the neigbor who always shovels the driveway of the old people next door, or climbs trees to rescue cats - except that guy has an arsenal and a "don't ask, don't tell" policy.


Yeah, almost like "Rambo: Neighborhood Watch"


I guess I am not clear on how you find it funny that the military was portrayed as a helpful organization? Please explain why you have those thoughts. Confused

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 		I think he was just pointing out that in 90% of Liberal Hollywood's crap, the military is portrayed as an evil organization that doesn't care about anyone or anything except war and cover ups.

I didn't find it "Funny", but I did find it "Refreshing" that they portrayed the Military as servants of the public, and defenders of our lives.

Won't get JJ any nominations for an award, though.
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