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[Spoilers] Timeline to the Attack
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Caros
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[Spoilers] Timeline to the Attack

Alright folks, after watching the movie and debating with the roomies for a bit, I thought I'd garner some assistance while clarifying this for myself.

Keep in mind that this is my interpretation of events, I'd love to get clarification.

We know the incident ends somewhere around 7:00, We know its after six, and I believe the number 6:48 comes up somewhere during.

We know the incident starts 'Around' Seven hours ago. From what we gather from other sources (Pictures on the site, and just general fiddling) this puts the start of the incident sometime after 12:00am.

So starting from the begining, a timeline of the attack, with all important sightings.

~12:25 - The tanker incident. The monster obviously hasn't been seen yet by any reports. Of note is the fact that they are paying attention to the area that it is in.

~12:30 - The group heads to the roof, kills some time talking. It doesn't appear to have been that long, indeed, since they can't see anything from the roof its doubtful they were up there long at all.

We know that in the interviening five minutes the monster has gotten closer to shore. I believe that the initial explosion happens on land, but it could happen offshore as well.

During this point the monster has also likely decaped the statue of liberty.

~12:37 - Assuming two minutes to run down to the ground floor. The monster is now almost certainly inland. Its four miles (Give or take a half mile) from liberty island to to where the head landed, but only half that from battery park, which is its most likely landing point.

~12:42 - At most it takes the monster about five minutes to travel the two miles to where the charachters are (I believe it is less, but I also believe the monster was somewhat further inland when it threw the head.)

It continues up past them on the street, heading for midtown. Its making a decent pace but has to be at least somewhat hindered by eating people as it moves.

~12:50 - A bit of lost time as the camera is turned off, but its doubtful they stayed long. What is strange to me here is that they head to the brooklyn bridge. Unless I'm seriously mistaken about their location in the city, it seems the manhatten bridge would be closer.

Its important to note that the military do not appear to be on scene yet.

At this point it becomes harder to trace time. Would have loved to have got the time off the electronic store tvs but didn't think of it. In any case, due to traveling, its a best guess sort of thing now.

~1:25 - The bridge goes down. What is curious to note about this incident is the monster appears to have doubled back. Fourty five minutes ago it was headed uptown towards midtown and central park. It then turns, moves back to the river, swims downstream and attacks the 'second' bridge it comes across.

Also of note, rob gets his call from Beth while on the bridge. From this we know that the damage to her building was caused between the 12:12 sighting and the brooklyn bridge destruction. Assuming there was only one monster, it is strange that her call arrived so late, unless she was incapacitated.

~1:30 - The millitary rolls in. As the millitary are heading 'past' the characters, I believe they are headed towards lower manhatten. There are no bridges left south of the charachters at this point. This means that, ruling out an anhibious landing, they have to be coming from the north and most likely from the east.

~1:35 - Rob... robs, an electronic store. The soldiers are engaged with the monster on the island proper. It has either retreated to lower manhatten (My personal guess), or back up where the characters initially encountered it. It begins dropping 'creatures'.

~1:45 - Rob has his battery, listens to his message and sets off northward. I believe he takes central up to canal street. Of note, they pass several chinese men fleeing in an alley way, this makes remarkable sense considering they are heading towards chinatown.

~2:00 - This is a relitively short trip, only about half a mile from park row to canal street. From there I believe they travel a few blocks up canal street, hoping to end up at king street which is a straight shot for beth's appartment.

They don't make it of course, With the millitary arriving at their back to take pot shots at the creature. They dive for cover in the subway, where rob points out their general location (Which is where I'm getting my guess.)

To get in front of them as it did the monster would have had to come back up from lower manhatten, well within its apparent speed. It also could have come down from midtown or just been in the general area.

The millitary arriving behind them makes a lot of sense if they are using mahatten bridge, as that is a straight shot onto canal street.

~Unknown - Unfortunately much of the next few hours is unaccounted for. The monster is rampaging, apparently at least somewhere nearish. The millitary is hitting it. Rob gets the call from his mother, they head down the subway and are attacked by the creatures.

They hide in a terminal, leave and come in contact with the millitary. This is likely no later than 4:00.

They are released after the death of Marlene and told the evacuation plan. Considering they have a chance to make it, they likely have at least two hours to work with.

They travel to beths, rescue her. Its known that the monster is spending much of his time in midtown at that point. Its possible this is because it is the only large grouping of humans remaining.

A creature is encountered in the stairwell, and subsequently axed. Did it follow them up, good question for another thread I suppose.

6:00 - They move through the city, arriving just in time to lift off.

The monster is bombed brutally, but remains standing, taking down the craft.

~6:45 - They wake up, with the warning that they have very little time. Hud dies. The monster is apparently indulging the military by walking out in the open to be bombed.

Oddly, the monster leaves the other two untouched.

~7:00 Due to millitary precision, my best bet is they obliterated NYC at exactly 7:00

Alright, thats enough for now. Feel free to offer your suggestions, what I missed, ways to figure out time etc.

(Edited for the below comment. Good catch on that one, s'actly what I'm looking for.)

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 12:48 am
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You are off by a bit.....in the beginning.

If you watch beths contribution to huds "documentation"you can see the clock in the kitchen. and again shortly after in another scene. when Rob is onthe balcony discussing sex with beth the last time seen on the clock is around 12:25. Don't remember seeing it again. Big man shook the building around 12:30
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I'm pretty sure that the Greyshot bridge scene takes place at 06:42, that's what I remember Rob saying.

If true, they'd have to have woken up at ~06:35.

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Oddly, the monster leaves the other two untouched.

I gather from the audio that the other two ran their asses and hid off to the side in the vegetation. Hud is also pointing a handheld object at MGP, and everyone else that's been doing that has been making little stings and hot sears on his skin. Who do you think gets the attention under those circumstances?
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i recall seeing a clock in the subway station in the background that said it was 3:17. i cannot remember if this was before or after rob got the call, and whether it was before or after makes a big difference in the sequence.

in any case, that makes everything kind of tight in terms of time:
this means that in around 2.5 hours, they would have had to wander down the tunnel, hang out in the break room, meet the soldiers, walk across town, scale 50 stories, come back down, and find the choppers. i guess now that i think about it, it sort of fits.

either way, the timeline was one of the things i thought about the most and i look forward to this thread building!

(edited to take out the spoiler. it was annoying and people got their fair warning)

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Caros
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Gonna be going to see the movie again this evening get a better sense of things without just looking at it wide eyed.

Thanks for the contributions, and I'll keep it coming on touching up this early timeline to make sense =)

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10:38 Beth's breakup with rob via Hud's camera
12:11 Jason pulls Lily into the kitchen with Hud
12:18 Lily tells Jason and Hud about Rob and Beth
3:17 Rob recieves phone call from mom in subway
6:42 Rob checks his watch and does his goodbye speech

(Of note: Right afte the helicopter crash you can hear the radio: "Hawkeye-6, target is still active, initiating Hammer-Down. TOT 15 minutes. Sirens will sound 2 minutes out." When Rob first attempts to make his speech you can hear the sirens start.)

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5am after scene in the tunnel, where they find the military and they are taken in.

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jdev wrote:
5am after scene in the tunnel, where they find the military and they are taken in.

How do you find that out? I don't recall a clock or anyone mentioning the time.

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timeline

Some things at the beginning have confused me a bit.

The earthquake:
What causes the tremor and the power outage? Does the monster capsize the tanker at this moment? How would that create an earthquake and affect power? I'm thinking the monster inadvertently smashes into the tanker as it surfaces effectively knocking it over. How this creates and earthquake and power outage is questionable. Any theories?

Statue decapitation:
The Statue of Liberty is illuminated at night and is probably the first thing the monster sees as it emerges from the depths of the harbor. Maybe it mistakes it for a tasty late night snack. As it attacks the Statue it realizes that it's not a living creature and out of anger rips its head off.

Explosion:
This has to be the tanker. It looks like a highly combustible explosion hence the fireball and high flying debris that hurls across the city. Did the monster cause it to explode by attacking it again or does the tanker explode on its own because of the initial capsizing? We know the tanker has exploded because of the footage seen from the Brooklyn Bridge but is that the same explosion we see from the rooftop? Theories?

Statue head:
Moments after the explosion everyone is on the street and the monster has apparently already reached the shore. The statue head becomes airborne after being either thrown or spit out...who knows? Did the monster carry the head to the shore? Remember, the explosion is first then the statue head comes flying....doesn't seem apparent that the statue's head was ripped off and thrown at the same moment.

Love to hear other's thoughts and theories on this timeline.

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I believe the monster must have carried the head inland. It doesn't make sense for the monster to rip off the head at Liberty Island, throw it four miles, then show up a 40 seconds letter to destroy the Woolworth building.

I think we're left to assume the explosion was the tanker, due to the fact that we saw it engulfed later on. I don't understand how the tanker would still be in tact though after a giant explosion like that. Plus, wouldn't it need some type of ignition to explode? Maybe the big explosion was an offspring of the tanker fire?

Honestly I don't even think Reeve's and Abrams know. I think they just stuck it in the trailer for effect without thinking it through.

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theres a new description of the monster... creepy people sucking underbelly... I do beleive this monster has abilities that have not been showed. I think theres some sort of suction appendage below like the suction cups of an octopus that shot the statue head and shot all that debri in chuai... just my 0.02

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TheRabbit wrote:
jdev wrote:
5am after scene in the tunnel, where they find the military and they are taken in.

How do you find that out? I don't recall a clock or anyone mentioning the time.


as the soldier is escorting them out to 58th you can see/guess this as two fold.

1) pay attention to robs watch, you can slightly see the time on it.
2) the soldier tells them that the helicopters will lift off at 0600, and tells them they have 1 hour.

by deductive reasoning, its somewhere in the area of 5am after
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You mean from this part?

Staff Sgt Pryce: "The building, it's at columbus circle?"
Rob: "Yea"
SSP: "If you wanna go out in this, I ain't gonna stop ya. But you gotta know somethin, the government is considering the Hammerdown protocol. Which means they're willing to let this whole area go."
Rob: "What, you mean midtown?"
SSP: "No, I mean Manhatten. Come on. We're taking one last shot at this thing, if that doesn't work they'll level the whole goddamn city. Your watch is still workin?"
Rob: "Yea"
SSP: "Alright, they're leaving from 40th and Park. Last chopper wheels up at exactly 0600. If you can make it there then they'll get you out."
Rob: "Ok, thank you."
SSP: "58th street is right there. Go, go, move, move, move, go, go, go."

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TheRabbit wrote:
You mean from this part?
SSP: "Alright, they're leaving from 40th and Park. Last chopper wheels up at exactly 0600. If you can make it there then they'll get you out."

SSP: "58th street is right there. Go, go, move, move, move, go, go, go."


That's exactly what I was looking for. Thank you!

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