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hawkspar
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Oh I loved it too! I really enjoyed analyzing how pagan ideas influenced the earliest church plays. I wrote a paper on "bann criers" for the class. Absolutely crazy!
Kabuki is pretty interest, but if you ever have a chance, look into "Noh" theater (it predates Kabuki). Its a bit more drab, but what it lacks in flash it makes up for with solemnity.
Cheers to you Tiggs! Teaching rocks! And cheers to you Heather for liking Star Wars;)
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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 6:48 pm
The Mirror
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Hell is Other People is the best part of No Exit . I'm dying for someone to cast me as Inez! Have you read his The Flies ? It's his version of the Orestia. It calls for a giant, rotting statue of Zeus center stage. All filmy eyed and gross with the sound of flies permeating the whole stage... thank you Jean Paul, for a nauseating and incredible revamp of Aeschylus!
If you liked Hedda Gabler, even a little, you might really like Rosmersholm . It's all about secular morality and how people self destruct when they're put into little social boxes. AND it's really connected to Kierkegaard. There's a lot of scholarly literature linking Rosmersholm and Kierkegaard's theories.
I agree about Thus Spake Zarathustra. I get angry when N gets misinterpreted though. The Ubermensch is about power over the SELF, not power over other people.
Tiggs, don't judge Ibsen on that one play. It's a crummy play, but his other plays are fabulous!!! And I love Frankenstein more than anything! And it's good to take your time in school! I don't know why folks get into such a rush!!
hee hee Leith!
Connie, those are GREAT plays! Cat on A Hot Tin Roof is one of my favorite Williams' plays, and Bus Stop is so much fun! Cherrie is BY FAR the best role in Bus Stop. I bet you were FABULOUS!
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 6:48 pm
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hawkspar
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No, I have not read The Flies. That giant statue sounds hilarious and appropriate! I will have to pick up Rosmersholm one of these days then. I had better like your reccomendation!
Yeah, N gets a bad rep. but its because people see things that aren't there. The ubermench SAVES humanity, and we are all capable of becoming ubermenches!
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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 6:55 pm
The Mirror
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Hawk, I never answered your question about determinism. After being a die hard existentialist for YEARS (I signed every letter with eleutheria) I (get ready to barf) fell in love and realized that I had utterly no choice or control or free will at all. The biochemistry of my emotions was stronger than any sort of free will I thought I had. Commence with the groans and puking noises. blech gross I know. But seriously, if I had free will, or control over my emotions, or the ability to define myself and create my own reality, I would have chosen a more convenient man to fall in love with than my wonderful and amazing fiance, for whom I moved to the midwest. where it is fifty freaking degrees below zero.
I think that my environment and biology dictated and determined my emotions, and my emotions dictated my choice. therefore, no free will.
I lecture on Noh as well, but have to admit that I prefer to lecture on Kabuki. sensationalism sells!
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 6:58 pm
Idta
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Hahaha wow it's awesome to know someone who actually knows Bus Stop!!! I loved the story and the characters and I LOVED playing Cherrie!!!
Cat On A Hot Tin Roof was amazing as well (but we had to rewrite a whole scene in the play so when we performed it we didn't actually perform the original we just performed our own made up scene with the same characters)
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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:04 pm
The Mirror
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Well, Inge is a big deal in the Midwest.
Why did you have to rewrite Cat on a Hot Tin Roof?!?!
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:07 pm
Idta
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LOL it was our assignment. We had to change a scene but still have it flow well with the rest of the play.
So I came up with the idea that the whole family ( aside from the kids) went to an exapnsive resturant and there everyone tells Big Mama that Big Daddy is dying. And she faints. And then it goes into her dream and she is dancing with big daddy and they are inlove and getting along (unlike in the whole movie) and the end it goes back into real life and everyone is standing around her waking her up and helping her up.
It was a good little scene (there was probably more to it that I can't remember)
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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:12 pm
The Mirror
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Wow, that's pretty brilliant! Are you a writer?
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:13 pm
hawkspar
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Heather, there is a reason most philosophers, despite thinking they had a monopoly on truth, were lonely and curmudgeonly! If you have found love, and it led you away, then you found what they could not. The existentialists were right about one thing though: we are only human. If biology took over, then cheers to you...people should follow their hearts more than their heads I feel anyways!
And I am not surprised. Most people find Noh boring, but eh...I like it;)
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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:14 pm
The Mirror
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I like it too, but I'm a slave to an audience, and the audience prefers Kabuki!
It's actually a bummer because it's rare to find specialists in Asian theater who teach whole classes in Asian theater at the undergraduate level. I studied with some good people in grad school, but typically undergraduate theater history classes only spend a couple of weeks on Asia. The Western Canon reigns supreme in most generalist programs.
I've always been ruled by the head. This is scary.
And I though philosophers were curmudgeonly cause they were DRUNK!!! I love the monty python drunken philosophers song!!!
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:19 pm
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Idta
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Aw thank you I do write, a bit...Or at least I used to.
I wrote a few short stories in my day (and got pissed off because one of them was almost identical to a Stephen King story that I never read or never heard of before..I still don't even know what it is called lol)
And a bunch of poems. Mostly depressive teenage stuff though lol. I still have one or two stories I written saved up. One is about rape at a party and the other one is about drinking and driving...
I havn't written in a very long time though.
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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:20 pm
The Mirror
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writing is a gift and if you've got it you should flaunt it!!
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:21 pm
LeithNoweder
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Just don't let your dangling participle show...that'd just be indecent.
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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:22 pm
Idta
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lol that is the problem Huston...I don't know if I have it anymore. Meh..I probably do haha I am just not motivated enough.
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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:25 pm
The Mirror
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Leith, only YOU could turn grammar into an innuendo!!
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:28 pm
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