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[PRESS]Reeves, Paramount talking Cloverfield 2!
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skatehimrock
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 		i really want to see the host. i havent seen it. im trying to find where to rent it..is it any good? or is it just plain old crap?

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 		Yes, The Host is good (in my opinion--huge monster movie fan), but it mixes seriousness with humor in a way that doesn't always work. It doesn't really impair the movie, but I really wish they had gone one way or the other; when you're laughing, then a monster shows up, it kinda makes the movie seem less serious. Actually, Cloverfield did that too, but The Host is different. Just take my word for it.

To gurerra001: Whaddaya mean first in a long time? Was there a time that people weren't making monster movies? And you don't "seem asshole," so don't worry.

You know what, I'ma start a thread specifically about monster movies, so if anyone has any questions, look there.

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gigantis2001 wrote:
Yes, The Host is good (in my opinion--huge monster movie fan), but it mixes seriousness with humor in a way that doesn't always work. It doesn't really impair the movie, but I really wish they had gone one way or the other; when you're laughing, then a monster shows up, it kinda makes the movie seem less serious. Actually, Cloverfield did that too, but The Host is different. Just take my word for it.

To gurerra001: Whaddaya mean first in a long time? Was there a time that people weren't making monster movies? And you don't "seem asshole," so don't worry.

You know what, I'ma start a thread specifically about monster movies, so if anyone has any questions, look there.


Yea The Host was good, although it went into a lot of politics about Korea that lost me. Great monster design too. The first glimpse of it was SO well done.

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Fozziebare13 wrote:

Yea The Host was good, although it went into a lot of politics about Korea that lost me. Great monster design too. The first glimpse of it was SO well done.


Agreed, expect that I don't think the politics angle was that big a deal. However, word is that the next one (supposedly a prequel) will be a little heavier in that aspect. If that turns you off, know that they are planning to have mulitple monsters this time. Very Happy

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gigantis2001 wrote:
Fozziebare13 wrote:

Yea The Host was good, although it went into a lot of politics about Korea that lost me. Great monster design too. The first glimpse of it was SO well done.


Agreed, expect that I don't think the politics angle was that big a deal. However, word is that the next one (supposedly a prequel) will be a little heavier in that aspect. If that turns you off, know that they are planning to have mulitple monsters this time. Very Happy


Wow, I hadn't heard that. Two is always better than one so I'll definitely see it.

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If a new one is comming out, maybe I can convince my wife to let me buy the first one. Everyone I work with says it is a good flick. Another addtion to the Korean horror genre. That and Old Boy. Lots of Old boy fans here. Kinda creepy, actually.
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 		attack of the show confirmed it yesterday. sequel for cloverfield 2 already green-lit, just waiting for Reeves to finish up INvisible woman and its go time.

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 		He's making that? And its an action film? W/E would be kinda cool to have some teaser trailer attatched to it. Or they will just do the same thing over again, random teaser in front of a random movie, but everyone would already know, oh, Cloverfield 2.

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WartyHogger wrote:
He's making that? And its an action film? W/E would be kinda cool to have some teaser trailer attatched to it. Or they will just do the same thing over again, random teaser in front of a random movie, but everyone would already know, oh, Cloverfield 2.


Still though, how psyched would you be to be sitting in the theater, black screen, and all of the sudden that all-familiar roar bursts through the speakers.

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xboyonfirex wrote:
WartyHogger wrote:
He's making that? And its an action film? W/E would be kinda cool to have some teaser trailer attatched to it. Or they will just do the same thing over again, random teaser in front of a random movie, but everyone would already know, oh, Cloverfield 2.


Still though, how psyched would you be to be sitting in the theater, black screen, and all of the sudden that all-familiar roar bursts through the speakers.


That would be cool, nothing on the screen, all ou hear is the roar that was on 1-18-08. Would be bone-chilling hair-raising. Pretty cool idea.

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 		[quote="guerra001"]
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I'm only using Shyamalan as an example. Not the biggest fan. Loved Sixth Sense though.

OK. Here's the deal. Cloverfield. Let's just stick to fact. The movie is in itself the account of footage found in Central Park after a monster attacks the city.

If I go out and find a camera or just find a disc or a tape or a card and look at it all I'm gonna get is what's on it. I may be eager as hell to learn more. But that's all I got. Now I can get on the net and research if it's an event big enough. And that's my point. Cloverfield was meant to be like an event. It happened. We all witnessed it through the footage.

You can't just go and make more footage. You could find more, and in that case that would suck. I'm already invested in this group of people.

In an effort to use this style of filming the makers of this movie have in a way boxed themselves into the method.

It's like an 80 minute Youtube video. And when it's over it's over. That is how it was billed. Now people want to create a typical Hollywood polished and proper film. No. That would suck.


Well who's to say that they "find" another video? Manhattan cleared out really quick, freakishly quick actually, so another videographer may have gotten out and turned his footage into......I don't know: the military, Extra, Dr. Phil.

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The Senator wrote:
JadedMax wrote:
You can't just go and make more footage. You could find more, and in that case that would suck. I'm already invested in this group of people.

In an effort to use this style of filming the makers of this movie have in a way boxed themselves into the method.

It's like an 80 minute Youtube video. And when it's over it's over. That is how it was billed. Now people want to create a typical Hollywood polished and proper film. No. That would suck.


I agree with the first bit. I don't want to see hand-held footage from someone else's perspective, because no matter the character, the basic events will be the same: character is living life normally, holycrap! monster attack!, oh noes the parasites are eating him/her, he/she dies or escapes. Same formula, the cinematography loses its novelty, and we have to get to know new characters. Ugh.

I disagree that they've "boxed themselves into the method" though. There are so many different avenues they could take with a sequel. It could be more leaked government footage that basically debriefs and outlines what happened. It could be a mockumentary that explores the origins of the monster, a broad overview of the attack, and the aftermath. Lily could come back for something like that.

Shaky cam and "polished and proper" cinematography aren't the only options in filmmaking. I think a sequel is a bad idea--I'd prefer a net-based sequel of sorts through the continuation of the ARG--but it will make them plenty of money, especially if it isn't shot with a shaky cam, because then everyone could see it without worrying about getting sick.


How about instead of shaky handycams, they go with security cameras, traffic cams and the like. No wait, that's stupid. Wish I hadn't said anything but too late to turn back now.

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 		What about a documentary? It would treat the monster attack as a real event, with commentary from experts, eyewitness accounts from soldiers, footage from news teams on the site etc. It could be like one of those History Channel specials on natural disasters they do.

Only problem is, it'd be hard to make that kind of thing scary. I mean, World War Z kind of creeps you out a little but probably wouldn't make a very good movie.

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Magus00 wrote:
If a new one is comming out, maybe I can convince my wife to let me buy the first one. Everyone I work with says it is a good flick. Another addtion to the Korean horror genre. That and Old Boy. Lots of Old boy fans here. Kinda creepy, actually.



Yo is Oldboy good? Ive heard its awesome but i cant seem to get my hands on a copy...all i heard is hammer and teeth...'nuff said


EDIT: I meant first GOOD monster movie in a long time...and yes the politics lost me as well...but cool monster...humour was alright but it did take away from the whole aspect, whereas cloverfield mixed in nicely
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 		okay, thought this one up
Granted it's another "Cloverfield 2 Spec" but here we go.

What do we all want that the first one didn't offer?

+More of an introduction of the ARG into the movie
+More Tadpole/MGP
+More parasites

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I want a video to start from the tanker. Maybe from a P.O.V. of a environmentalist group, who are sent away on the tanker to the authorities in the United States.

In the beginning of the movie, it would start off w/ the environmentalist team stating who they are and their plan to infiltrate the Chuai Station as employees and simply sabotage the equipment and that they would document the 'event'.

But once they get there, they find that there are dark secrets at the Chuai station. Just as the begin to delve too deep, they get caught and are to be placed in a containment area. There will be a lot of cut scenes simply because they wouldn't have the camera in plain view while they're being dealt with and detained. The camera would turn off just as they become attained by the real Chuai Station security. Then the camera would be turned back on when they are in a contained room in the tanker. At that point, one of the characters would explain what happened and what's happening to them. Just as he's about to go into detail about what was discovered, the captain and a few of the crew burst through the door and demand and threaten the environmentalists trying to find out 'what they did, because the Chuai station collapsed.'

While they're being berated and even slapped around a bit, the camera is on the ground facing the interrogated crew. Just as the captain is about to reach back and hit them one more time, an 'all too familiar roar' is heard, then the entire vessel is completely rocked. Everyone [environmentalists and crew] stop what they're doing in complete shock, as if they were waiting for some sort of answer or final blow to come to them. But nothing. The captain and crew rush to the top of the tanker to see what the hell just hit them, leaving the door opened behind them... so the environmentalist crew decide to join them on the top.

Once on the top they see a bunch of the crew pointing to the back of the ship. A moment later the shoulder of MGP, along w/ his face bursts through the surface of the water and in a frightening moment, it brushes against the side of the ship, knocking everyone to the ground and some right off the ship. But- along w/ doing so MGP knocks of a bunch of those parasites, just as that happens, the captain immediately turns to the environmentalists and tells the surrounding crew to put them back in the 'containment area' and lock the door behind them.

Back in the containment area, just as they start to go into complete 'freak-out' mode, screams are heard from the crew. Shooting, screaming, and footsteps running back and forth [along w/ the sound of the parasites running by and making that sound they make]. Eventually it all starts to die down and the lights eventually get turned off. One of the environmentalists gets the door open to find the hallways filled with blood and body parts everywhere. Scary parts come and go, they fight off the parasites that come around every corner and out of every vent and such and finally make their way to the Navigation center. Looking out [it's night time] they see huge flashes of light, explosions in the distance.

They survive the night

the next day they attempt to find the communications center to radio the coast guard. Again, they have to fight for their life. Along the way they find a couple survivors and some flares. Reaching the communications station they find that the Coast Guards have been trying to reach them. Distress is sent, and they alert them of something big following them, in which they are informed that the military is dealing w/ that as they speak.

Finally, Night has come and they know that the boast has been coasting ever since the incident. Their goal is to reach the surface of the ship and find a way off the tanker any way possible. One of the survivors die along the way [get bit and explodes as they reach the surface.] They reach the top of the tanker to see that they're in view of Coney Island [and the SOL]. Just as they begin to lower the lifeboat, they hear that familiar roar in the distance. They get as far as they can before they see monster's rear up and begin to capsize the ship, sending a huge wave their way.

The camera turns back on

as they turn around to see the monster breach the coast and start its rampage through the city.

Then comes many different angles of familiar scenes we've seen before, more issues w/ the parasites, and learning the same and some added information about 'the hammer-down protocol' from an individual soldier [whose entire squad was obliterated by the monster/parasites] and even a particular scene that shows the monster get planted w/ bombs by the 'Stealth Bomber' and it bursting out of the smoke and explosion incidentally hitting a helicopter that was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Still being too deep in Manhattan, they steal a vehicle and do a mad dash out of the city, having a brief face crossing w/ the monster as it makes its way towards Central Park. Across town, and almost out they watch as they begin to drop the first bombs on the monster and the city... The explosions begin to reach out closer and closer to them. The last moments show the flames filling up the back window's view and screams of fear.

The camera turns back on, showing NYC at a much safer distance, w/ the remaining survivors walking towards a military safe-zone. The battery begins to die, but just before it begins to die an extremely pissed off roar is heard in the background as a huge mass starts to rise up from the ashes of NYC. [end]


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