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fluxuation
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everyone keeps wondering who is filming this scene.. I think no one is. in the first vid we see them walking and theres only 3 guys. now in this one they arent walking and theres now 4. I think someone was filming when they were walking but now that we see 4 the camera was on a tripod or something. maybe they were filming a scene of something that all 4 needed to be on camera. here's my little hypothesis on how this all went down: they were filming a little football scene. something happened where malice probably hit ark (i think it's ark) for real. ark got mad and went after malice. thats how the fight started. the camera is way too still for someone to be filming.
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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 1:51 pm
tubbytango
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agreed. I don't know if this was filmed beacause they were planning it, or just because somebody got a new camera or something?
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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 1:53 pm
jabroni
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Any idea why his username is Flagg?
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 1:54 pm
The Mirror
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It's significant that the purgatorium hallway is at the center of the collage. It could have been Brody in the middle, or Ronnie, or Serena. The fact that it's the purgatorium brings us back to the events that took place in there. We've been talking a bunch about the social history of the friends and that's wicked important, but I think we also have to consider how that social history connects with the events in the purgatorium...the moving chair, the gun, the subjects, etc.
Not that I have any idea where to start, of course.
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 1:54 pm
tubbytango
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Flagg was an antihero. Flagg was evil. Flagg took many names. Flagg was everywhere.
just a few thoughts.
refrenced to Randall Flagg from Stephen King one would assume.
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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 1:55 pm
fluxuation
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tubbytango wrote:
agreed. I don't know if this was filmed beacause they were planning it, or just because somebody got a new camera or something?
it might be planned. this could be the "football tryout tapes" we've heard about. maybe not exactly for the patriots but for college or highschool. remember, malice suposedly went missing in '99 so these videos have to be pretty old.
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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 1:56 pm
tubbytango
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Brody couldn't remember where his connection with Malice came from. Why wouldn't he remember something that recent? Furthermore, how would someone so estranged from Brody come back into his life so suddennly?
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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 2:00 pm
fluxuation
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well I could be wrong but I remember TM alluding to the fact that the videos of malice, brody, and serena could be all in brody's head. I dont know though. we know from Jagt that Malice went missing in '99 and hasnt been seen since but then we have videos from recent times that show him with brody and serena.. I wish we had TM here to bold and strike things out
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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 2:02 pm
The Mirror
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What if MALICE is back from the grave, wreaking havok on Brody's life in order to get revenge for something Brody accidentally did during...um...football. What if something went down during this video clip and the guy who's lying on the ground is either A.Malice (hurt by Brody) or B. somebody that Malice hurt.
if A. Perhaps Malice is coming back for revenge
if B. Perhaps Malice had to hide from the law, and is only coming back now.
BY THE WAY. It will be problematic if Malice turns out to be a bad guy since he's the only black character in the game. You can't make the one black dude the bad guy. That's tacky.
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 2:03 pm
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that makes some sense but then again malice was working WITH brody during the serena videos. but yeah, brody did have a dream that him and Ark burried a scruffy fat guy. it COULD be malice.
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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 2:07 pm
The Mirror
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Oh yeah. And Malice doesn't seem scruffy OR fat.
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 2:12 pm
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scruffy no, but malice is big. maybe not fat, but he's big. in a dream brody could have mistaken him for fat and not muscular. I guarentee malice has to weigh between 230 and 250 or more.
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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 2:15 pm
Titanium
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Icarus Blye wrote:
My thoughts :
Arkham/Ronnie - Brody - Her Sin Is A Secret Girl - Serena - Jagt - Snow Video - (???) - Whore - Ronnie -
Professor
additional subject - Ronnie
(???)additional subject - Ronnie - Professor - Brody Snow Video - Mark - Jagt - Serena - Homeless man -
Professor
her sin is a secret (based on jacket she is wearing) - Her Sin Is A Secret Girl - Brody
Brody - Whore - Ronnie - Coney Island - Serena - Purgatorium hallway - Ronnie - (???)people at Ronnie's 21st bday party - Ronnie - Professor - Whore
Ronnie - Applesauce Guy - Arkham - (???)person at Ronnie's 21st bday party was this the one sitting behind her when the candles were lit? - (Michele?) - Her Sin Is A Secret Girl - Malice - Applesauce Guy - Arkham/Brody - (???)person at Ronnie's 21st bday party - Arkham
(???)additional subject - Serena - (???)person at Ronnie's 21st bday party same as above - Her Sin Is A Secret Girl - Malice - Brody - Professor - Jagt - Ronnie - Malice - Mark
I remember a video where there were quick shots of other subjects besides the 6 main ones. Unfortunately at the moment that is all I can remember about it. But some of these pictures of people in "the tank" are ones that were in that video. I crossed out names I didn't agree with and put the ones I thought they were in red above with comments.
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:49 pm
Tresbien
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In the second row from the bottom, third pic from the right, Ark has something in his hand. Can anyone tell what it is? This image seems to follow the photo in the second row where he's just taken off his coat.
Titanium, I'm glad you mentioned the other subjects. I've thought it odd that on 48-hours.net it says 20 people would be filmed but only six would make it into the final film. Jagt told us that all of them went crazy, but Brody doesn't seem to have blogged about the others. I still want to know who they are and what happened to them.
And we have this disconnect between the Jan 4 post that said they crossed time to stop the film while Brody in recent chat with Mirror said the film was making lots of money.
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:00 pm
Titanium
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I actually think they are both the sin girl and even though we have seen pictures of the professor on the back counter, I think this is her sin is a secret because of her coat. The professor has a darker grey coat I think. ic? did you delete your comment?
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:18 pm
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