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fluxuation
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hawkspar wrote:
All these allusions are starting to make sense. Bear with me here...
1) If the necklace is a firefly or bee it can mean rebirth
2) On Jagt's site "Life after death is never the same"
3) Was Malice killed? How did he come back 9 years later?
4) Was V killed? How did she meet Connie?
5) Jagt's e-mail: "I saw two people who are supposed to be dead"
Anyone else sensing a common theme here? Are things gonna turn even creepier soon?
me and leith mentioned this already. when I was talking about how malice got killed, leith brought up the point that when brody interviewed the professor something probably happened that made brody's nightmares (death of V, death of malice) come out.
EDIT: In a chat I had with TM before all the crazy-ness happened I gave her my whole theory on the game which included what I just said. she gave me 3 smiley faces and didnt tell me anything was wrong or whatever. doesn't exactly mean its right, but you never know. I have a feeling it is though.
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:24 am
hawkspar
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Not sure I am following that Flux. The interview with the professor made Brody's demons come out, but V was not dead yet at that point. And I would hesitate to say Malice was killed
Maybe I am just being too skeptical though...
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:29 am
fluxuation
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ahh I didn't remember if she was dead by then yet.
all signs point to Malice being killed. Jagt has said many times that he went missing for a while and he even found a poster that said he's been missing since '99, which is when the football tapes were filmed. then Jagt saying he saw two people that should be dead.. for sure it was malice and serena.
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:32 am
LeithNoweder
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Yeah, but Serena didn't resemble Veronique until AFTER she died. Brody didn't notice that she looked like Veronique at the preinterview. It wasn't until reviewing the tapes after V died that Brody noticed that. So I'm thinking he changed Serena to fit his new nightmare.
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:32 am
hawkspar
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Hmm, that makes sense. If you do believe that Malice was killed then, how do you explain Malice popping back up in 2007? Or do you see that whole episide of the 6th subject as a dream, or a nightmare...as in not real and never taking place?
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:35 am
LeithNoweder
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It was real. Brody's nightmares came to LIFE. As in, they were his nightmares brought right into reality.
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:36 am
fluxuation
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they are real. I mentioned them not being real to the strytllr in an email and it got struck out. like leith said though they are real because they are brody's nightmares brought to life. thats the only way of explaining it.
malice had to of died. think about it. he stopped breathing and was knocked unconscious. they were deep into a forest or whatever. ark is big but I dont think he is big enough to carry Malice out of their the whole way through. even if they tried he would have died on the way to the hospital. I'm also sure malice is the guy brody saw in the dream that ark buried. brody said the guy was still alive when they buried him, malice could have very well still been alive.
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:41 am
hawkspar
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Here is where you lose me. Do you think the storm, combined with the prof's ability to bring nightmares to life, somehow brought Brody's nightmares to life then?
And Flux, thats a lot of assumptions bro lol. You are "sure" it was Malice he buried? Going by your own logic, it would have taken time to dig a hole in the ground, especially if it was snow covered and probably frozen. It would have taken at least as long as carrying him out of the forest. If there is one thing I have learned so far, its that nothing is ever what I think it is though...you could be 100% correct, but I will keep my own council about how I see it all happening for the time being,
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:45 am
LeithNoweder
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Yes. Hawk that's exactly what me and Flux think happened.
About Ark burying Malice? I don't know. The dream does not have to be taken literally. Could just be forgotten memories of Malice dieing being put together into some wierd ass dream about Ark burying a fat guy.
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:47 am
hawkspar
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Well, it certainly fits what evidence we have so far. Its the closest thing to a coherent theory I have read in a while (no offense intended to anyone else) so props to you guys. Guess we'll just have to see how it plays out.
Personally, I like the angle that V planned it, but it doesn't quite fit yet. *shrugs* oh well...
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:53 am
Idta
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I like that angle too Hawk...It would be a killer twist.
I LOOOOVE how V changes her mood at the end from all giddy and drunk to very hurt and sad..It's beautiful.
She is in a lot of pain and she misses Michelle a lot, which makes me believe even more that she is very lonely in New York, and doesn't really fit in...(Only friends she made are movie people, and they didn't seem that close to her..)
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:37 am
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Sorry for the double post, but looking at that thumbnail pic of the "beware of dog" something clicked, and it reminded me of one of the places in Brantford that me and my friends spied through...It had that sign behind a fence and we tried to get closer and were almost eaten alive by hounds lol
Don't know if it is the same place though...But ya.. Creepy
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:55 am
amandel
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he's been missing since '99, which is when the football tapes were filmed
Just a small point:the football tapes were not not filmed in 99 but in 1998--probably on Feb.28th which is the date stamp on the young Brody pic that is now on the photo ref thread. BTW-nice idea that.
Re the Grapes of wraith vid:Ronnie was so charming. I'm still smiling at her tipsy "Je suis tres...hammered" remark at the beginning of that vid.
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:28 am
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fluxuation wrote:
they are real. I mentioned them not being real to the strytllr in an email and it got struck out. like leith said though they are real because they are brody's nightmares brought to life. thats the only way of explaining it.
I really like this theory. How come you guys are never in chat to talk about this stuff?
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:00 am
Idta
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Because the chat is for OOG talk Pet This game would do better if we keep all IG convo to the forum, so everyone can join in or refer back to
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