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[FrankenPaula]

pm from dissid21

[bill]

No clue, but I registered, so maybe I'll get the invite too.

[Guest]

Re: pm from dissid21

[Nyght_Shyft]

It might be that he means to not talk with anybody BUT him?

I'm not entirely sure, but the impression i get is that he does not want us to talk to anybody BUT him. Obviously, Dissid and GCO don't like each other.. why is beyond me. My theory is this: either they both work for this "NIA" ..and this "NIA" is set up so that the members are against each other.. or else one of them is lying.

Dissid might be trying to warn us not to talk to NIA contact just because GCO has NIA in his name. Has GCO ever claimed to work for the NIA? Dissid DOES seem to talk in riddles.. he says to avoid NIA contacts and that 1945 was a bad year.. that's a pretty good description of GCO.

Or maybe Dissid does not want us to join the NIA? Perhaps this is some kind of trick?

Or even the next puzzle?

I don't know.. i'm just as confused as you guys. This whole thing is getting weird. I'm not sure where we'll go from here.

But it sure is fun!

[FrankenPaula]

Well, I'm afraid my brief foray into NIA recruitment will be ending. I received further instructions and refuse to carry out part of them. I have withdrawn my application. I hesitate on whether I should post their letter here since they have asked for secrecy. However, I think that kind of secrecy goes against the spirit of this message board. I'm kind of old school in my belief that a message board such as this one should not part of the game and that anything can be discussed here freely without worrying about what in-game characters might say about it.

I guess I won't divulge their entire letter, but I will say this. They asked me to create a second account on unfiction and not tell anybody about that. That's the part I had problems with. I just thought you all ought to know since they might be asking other people to do the same. I really hope they won't be sending plants or shills here, but I can't think of any other reason for needing a second account.

I noticed that this board has no moderator. You more active oldbies might want to ask SpaceBass or another admin about making some of you moderators.

Paula, quite hesitant about this game now (if it is indeed a game)

[SpaceBass]

[redkore]

[vpisteve]

[aliendial]

I prefer the term "clueless."

[FrankenPaula]

[Nyght_Shyft]

No one was involved more closely with the original teleport than I was.. I don't look at the project the same way and never once did i witness what imbri described as "fights" in IRC.

Nor do I understand why all of you are reducing yourselves to personal attacks against marc. Marc attempted something that had never been tried before.. some people loved it (myself included), some hated it. My finding was that the people who hated it were the ones who were most entrenched in the "typical" ARG genre.. the entirely puzzle-based, mathematical, net-venture. Once faced with something that counfounded logic.. something with no answer.. you turned to squabbling and name-calling against marc (which we are again seeing today).

In discussions i have seen people talk about the "perfect" arg, one that blends reality and fiction.. a game that never admits itself to be a game. Whatever is going on at redkore could very well be this perfect game.

A user at this board has claimed that a member of the redkore community asked him to make usernames over here. We don't know for sure if the person who asked him was really in-game.. and we can't even be sure if that was really the intention. Those who post over at these forums are well aware of the rules.. i'm sure marc even knows of them (i'm knocking on you, marc). Perhaps the intention behind the request was different? Perhaps it was meant another way? I don't see it as justifiction to shut this down. I ask the moderators to find out if anyone HAS done this.. certainly if an in-game person from RedKore IS breaking the rules, and it can be proven.. then this might be a real argument (although I disagree even with that, to some extent.. but we'll leave that for another day).

I honestly have not seen enough to justify taking RedKore away from these forums. I love the unfiction community and I think we've produced quite a bit in our attempts to solve what i call the "redkore question."

I request that everyone cease their personal attacks against marc and against a game you don't want to understand. Let those of us who want to play, play.. and leave us be. If Space wants to take it down, so be it, as it is his choice. But I am very much against it. And I fail to see why so many of you are.

[SpaceBass]

Nyght_Shyft, I understand your reluctance to lose this forum considering your strong interest in Red Kore. However, I must assure you that each of the problems you described above, but did not witness yourself, did indeed happen. I was either present for each, or informed by a person that I trust. Red Kore, on the other hand, has consistently and progressively destroyed any trust or benefit of the doubt I might have been inclined to give them.

It seems that every time someone gets close enough to showing that what Red Kore is doing has no substance underneath the thin layer of obfuscatory faux-philosophizing, the nature of the Red Kore "experience" suddenly reorganizes itself. I'm no longer inclined to believe that Red Kore might just be the most mind-blowing ARG experience ever. And I don't have the time to deal with fallout from the manipulative crap that Red Kore and its mods seem to instigate.

[jamesi]

[redkore]

[redkore]