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Francus

Help needed with math/logic puzzle

**Posted:** Thu Feb 07, 2008 1:51 pm

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natas

Whoever posts stuff like this should also set up a site where people can get free headache medicine also. And to think I was just asking for something to keep me busy while there was a lull in my other games. Bang Head

**Posted:** Thu Feb 07, 2008 2:29 pm

Francus

**Posted:** Thu Feb 07, 2008 3:01 pm

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Rogi Ocnorb

I'm assuming the actual math part is to be done in good old base10 as there are no zeroes on the Key, Modifiers or Target.

That said, and if I understand the puzzle, the closest I can come using only addition and "unique" modifiers is:
+ 13255125 + 13425124 + 14433262 (Over by 7644461)

Using Mixed Addition and subtraction:
One Subtraction;
+ 13425124 + 55262435 - 35214235 (And it's variants. Over by 4274)
Two Subtractions;
+ 63253331 - 16421226 - 13425124 (Under by 62069)

Using subtraction, only:
- 14433262 - 13425124 - 13255125 (Under by 74582561)

Reusing any of the modifiers 2 or even 3 times also does not balance.

So, is it possible it's using Multiplication and or division?
Or that it's really supposed to be Base6 math with no zeroes?

ETA: Attaching tab-delimited file with all 27,000 possible combinations of modifiers.

ETA2: And another file with just the 12,180 "unique" combinations of modifiers

**Posted:** Thu Feb 07, 2008 3:26 pm

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Francus

Thank you. Smile

To my knowledge (although I might be wrong), all one has to do is add, and each 'modifier' can be used only once.

Each result greater than 6 starts again from 1 (so a 7 becomes a 1, an 8 becomes a 2, a 9 becomes a 3, etc.).

For example:

45211662
52311642
14552122
51126641
------------ +
36534141

**Posted:** Thu Feb 07, 2008 4:21 pm

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Rogi Ocnorb

32416464 + 31246322 + 36545536 ?

That's as in your example with no carrying.

Or: #7 + #11 + #13

**Posted:** Thu Feb 07, 2008 5:32 pm

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Francus

That's the correct answer Rogi!!! Very Happy

Thank you!!!! Very Happy

How did you solve it so quickly? Just by trial-and-error? Shocked

**Posted:** Thu Feb 07, 2008 5:40 pm

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Rogi Ocnorb

Excel's Mod(#,6) function and auto filter.

**Posted:** Thu Feb 07, 2008 5:45 pm

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Francus

**Posted:** Thu Feb 07, 2008 5:50 pm

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Rogi Ocnorb

PM'd it to you with some instructions for the "Access" part.

**Posted:** Thu Feb 07, 2008 6:44 pm

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Francus

Thank you Rogi, but I couldn't find any attachment in your PM... Sad

Luckely, no more 8-symbol codes with 6 different symbols have to be decoded. Very Happy

All that's left now are five 10-symbol codes, with 7 different symbols. Shocked

Here is an example:

As soon as I have 'translated' the symbols into numbers I will post them.

Any more puzzles like these, and I will run out of Oxazepam/Ratiopharm pills sooner than expected. Mad

**Posted:** Sat Feb 09, 2008 2:21 pm

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Francus

All right; here are the 30 'modifiers' converted to digits:

01: 1132751275
02: 2464211351
03: 1216611462
04: 6225653215
05: 4474543563
06: 6436266322
07: 4545711176
08: 2427242623
09: 7241751767
10: 4515611412
11: 6326321633
12: 2356456343
13: 6746661341
14: 6361222261
15: 5555425256
16: 5146716224
17: 3657752264
18: 6445126331
19: 7626417414
20: 7562257454
21: 6767514427
22: 4276227135
23: 1336522624
24: 2676624651
25: 2762744725
26: 1322471157
27: 4461721366
28: 5121742336
29: 6117614715
30: 6312622373

The 'key'is 1424112413
The 'Result' is 6357414766

So the three 'modifiers' added togeter should be 5633372353

1424112413
5633372353
--------------- +
6357414766

(You should count 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-1-2-etc. with no carrying)

**Posted:** Sat Feb 09, 2008 5:32 pm

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Rogi Ocnorb

**Posted:** Sun Feb 10, 2008 12:14 am

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Francus

**Posted:** Sun Feb 10, 2008 5:51 am

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Rogi Ocnorb

Any time it rains, here, my dial-up goes all 19th century.
I'll send you the files from work, tomorrow.

For the last one:

**Posted:** Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:30 pm

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