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ngajengai
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L-O-L-A

Lola...

"It's a mixed up, muddled up, shook up world,"
...where...
"Girls will be boys, and boys will be girls.
except for Lola. Lo la Lola. Lo lo lo lo Lola."

You know Peter Pan has been tradtionally played by women in the theater. Often small, thin, flat-chested boyish-pixish women.

And when I was a kid I remember some kind of heated debate over whether the Peter Pan of the story was actually supposed to be a boy or a tomboy-girl.

Somebody had this idea that it was the wishful thinking of a woman who had all the resposibilites for cooking and cleaning, whose work was never done to want to be a male, a boy child who got to use his mind and go on adventures rather than a girl child who was stuck to the house, playing with dolls and learning at her mother's knee, all the things she would have to do to take care of the men in her life...

I can see the basis for this school of thought, but I don't know what was in Barrie's mind when he was writing the story. He adored his mother and was so close to her. Maybe he identified with her? Who knows?

But it seems interesting that Barrie is identified with his character, Peter Pan, and we've been somehow tying Jim to the character of Peter Pan...

Now Silas B. told Jim to "be a good little girl"
...
And the prisoners referred to him as a the "white bitch." Bitch being a female term...

Do you think there might be a little gender-bending going on in Push?

Do you think that Jim and Mary might be one and the same person?
Or potentially sisters rather than brother and sister?

Remember the letters IRS GL?
Anagram them and they spell out "GIRLS"

Do you think I'm a little bit crazy and have way too much time on my hands?

And, BTW, I don't suffer from OCD, I rather enjoy it! * Laughing

*

pjv

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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2002 7:13 pm

luvinpush
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Remember the letters IRS GL?

No, I don't. Could you remind me when we saw those?

OK, so I've been trying to think of a reason why the place in the Versailles is called "King Louis XIIV (whatever) Copacabana room. Seems like a strange combo to me. The Copacabana song talks about Lola ("her name was Lola") which takes us to "L-O-L-A Lola" which takes us to gender-bending. And in the copacabana room was dagmar talking about Peter Pan... more gender bending.

I'm losing my mind?!? See what you've done to me, ngajengai?

I'm really stretching here... need to rest my weary head.

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2002 10:52 pm

dj_mystique
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actually, there appears to be at least one error on that page (casino). it should be madam defarge not lafarge. a purposeful error or just another case of "oops"?

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2002 5:57 am

ngajengai
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Les GIRLS and L

Hi, "luvinpush" and "dj_mystique"

The IRS GL thing came from the some what same place
as PETER PAN did from TIXIV TER.

Look at the opening credits and what or who do you see?

You take that name and run it through the ROT system
and the most promising letter set that comes out is: IRS GL

Now whether this should be taken on face value as meaning,
perhaps, IRS GLassman...

Or anagrammed to form GIRLS, I can't be 100% certain...
But I like the wild theory about the GIRLS thing.

And, yes dj_m, I noticed the Lefarge Defarge thing too.
I'm thinking it may be significant.

And that's the size of it for now. Smile

pjv

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Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2002 12:33 pm

luvinpush
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Re: Les GIRLS and L

ngajengai wrote:

The IRS GL thing came from the some what same place
as PETER PAN did from TIXIV TER.

Look at the opening credits and what or who do you see?

You take that name and run it through the ROT system
and the most promising letter set that comes out is: IRS GL

pjv

ok, i realize i'm a little slow right now, but i still don't get it. i mean, i understand the rot system, but where are we seeing the irs gl letters? or, more explicitly, the letters that are rot'd to make irs gl? i feel so dumb Embarassed

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2002 4:29 pm

sapagoo
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Joined: 25 Sep 2002
Posts: 1213
Location: Atlanta, GA

Re: Les GIRLS and L

luvinpush wrote:

ngajengai wrote:

I can reverse engineer the answer to that.
Go to http://rot.flywheel.org and put IRSGL in the large box, and hit decode/encode. (make sure it's IRS as in Internal Revenue Service, not Ira, as in well, Ira)

Then on the next page, it will show you 26 possible ROTations (one being no rotation at all). Down near the bottom pops ENOCH.
So, It's now obvious that someone did a ROT on ENOCH and got IRSGL. Shocked

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2002 5:03 pm

luvinpush
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Thanks so much sapagoo! I wasn't sure which opening credits were being referred to! And that website is quite helpful!

You the best!

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2002 5:06 pm

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