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kosmopol
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 		Yes, now Atlantis seems to be more and more reasonable. As lost continent.

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ThaJinx
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Deadman0309 wrote:
AND WHAT ABOUT ATLANTIS????

Well, if we're looking for connections, Poseidon did father the five sets of twins whom became the kings of Atlantis. Their names in order of birth are Atlas and Eumelus/Gadeirus, Ampheres and Evaemon, Mneseus and Autochthon, Elasippus and Mestor, and Azaes and Diaprepes.

This is according to Plato's Critias, which is as I understand it the information's only source.

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 		I seem to recall from a paper I wrote awhile back that many scientists beleive if Atlantis DID exist, it would have been part of the Bahamas.

Just throwing that info out there in case because who knows what could prove useful in this game Smile

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 		Imagine running a labryinth blindfolded?
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 		Re: The Lost Games
Running a labyrinth blindfolded
Eli Hunt's podcast did say something about prizing memory and orienteering...
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OnAir wrote:
I seem to recall from a paper I wrote awhile back that many scientists beleive if Atlantis DID exist, it would have been part of the Bahamas.

Just throwing that info out there in case because who knows what could prove useful in this game Smile

There are so many different theories. I've even heard references to Incan cities, such as Machu Pichu, as candidates. Best bet right now is to keep an open mind to other possibilities as well. If we are dealing with Atlantis in some way, it could be the PMs' choice of interpretation.

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konamouse wrote:
Imagine running a labryinth blindfolded?

In his book The Marriage of Cadmus and Harmony (an anthropological overview of Greek mythology), Roberto Calasso suggests that the Minoan/Cretan labyrinth represents a path taken by dancers in a sacred or ritualistic dance; that the walls of the labyrinth would be built to either protect the dance from foreign eyes or to force remembrance of it. He further posits that the real clew given by Ariadne to Theseus would have been lessons in this sacred dance. (it'll be tonight before I can find the reference in my copy at home - Amazon seems to not have the contents available)

Anyone have access to a copy of Penelope Reed Doob's, The Idea of the Labyrinth? perhaps something useful is in there.[/u]

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 		off topic and yet on topic oooOOOoooOOOOoooOOO
THIS just made me laugh and laugh and laugh absolute epic lulz

You guys are the best.

We are mentioning Find The Lost Ring in our news segment today so if anyone has video of themselves opening the package and would be willing to let us use it, please PM me.
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 		I think I have found a blindfolded olympic game! And it sounds like fun! It hasn't been covered up though. So I sent Eli an email about it.
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Found your website today, intriguing. The founder of the Modern
Olympics, is I'm sure you are aware Dr William Penny Brookes. He had
his own Olympic games at Wenlock, and he also had a game with blindfolds.

Yes, the modern olympics had games with blindfolds. Amusingly, it was
Blindfolded Wheelbarrow racing. Where one person steers blindfolded
and another gets in a gives directions.

Whilst this is funny, it does make me wonder if Brookes was party to
some extra knowledge?

http://www.ioa.leeds.ac.uk/1980s/84099.htm
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the walls of the labyrinth would be built to either protect the dance from foreign eyes or to force remembrance of it. He further posits that the real clew given by Ariadne to Theseus would have been lessons in this sacred dance.


Adriene says she has been picking up tae chi pretty quickly for some odd reason. Could be a connection? I mean its not a dance in the traditional sense, but it's all body movement and that kind of thing, right?

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 		Another correspondence with Mei Hui. I pointed her in the direction of Eli Hunt:

I wrote:
Mei Hui,
I live in the United States. There are many people around the world who are interested in helping you. You already know about Ariadne and the other people with the strange tattoo, yes?

We think that your situation might have something to do with an Olympic mystery. Today we were led to the work of a historian "Eli Hunt." He describes his work here:

http://www.thelostgames.com/home.html

Eli Hunt has two "podcasts" that explain his research. They can be found here:

http://dotsub.com/home/user/index.php?target=5916

For each podcast, you can "WATCH" it with Chinese subtitles. I don't know yet how it is connected, but it seems important!

We will keep trying to find information.

Take care,
Dante

(I included a googleized Chinese version too)

Mei Hui wrote:

Hello Dante,

那个网站实在是非常的有趣。你真的觉得我的经历和这位Eli先生所诉说的有关系吗？
目前在帮忙我的一位林妈妈也说我的体力好到她觉得我可以去参加奥运选手的选拔大赛了。
可是我还是记不起来以前到底发生了什么事...

and yes, I write email to Ariadne and others too! We all are in same situation..
very fun and strange.

what do you think happen next?

美惠


For the Chinese part above, Google comes back with:

Google wrote:
Hello Dante,

That the site is very interesting. Do you really think that my experience and the Eli Mr. complaining of a relationship?
In a forest to help my mother said to me she felt good physically I can to take part in the selection of the Olympic competition has.
But I still can not recall prior to what happened in the end ...


In this last part, is she describing a dream??

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 		This thing is moving so fast, I'm getting afraid to leave my computer in case there's a deluge of new stuff by the time I get back to it Laughing

HitsHerMark wrote:
Incidentally. Eli's other podcast.

The Ancient Game Keepers

Says that "Earth-Shaker" was written on the wall of the chamber.

This, I can tell you because he was my High School Mascot, is a reference to Poseidon.

I'll start looking into any connections between Poseidon and the Olympics.

This Earth-shaker thing also ties neatly to the bit of paper received by Ranger D - "You will soon make a decision of earthshaking importance." The turn of phrase struck me as odd at the time, but I didn't really think too much about it. So maybe we need to re-examine the other messages now as well.
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 		Transcript of Eli Hunt's Podcast "The Ancient Game Keepers"
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In August of 1953, a series of tremors shook the Greek island of Kefalonia---revealing an ancient stone chamber that had been buried beneath the slopes of the Paliki Mountains. For less than a single day, the chamber was open to the world until another quake leveled the entire island, buying the chamber again under thousands of tons of earth. In the hours between its discovery and its disappearance, locals from the island were able to explore the hidden room. Today, all that remains are their reports and the few things they took from it. Who built the room and what was its purpose? I'm Eli Hunt, and this is the legend of the ancient game keepers.

Last year, I traveled to Kefalonia to try to find some of the survivors of the 1953 quakes. I hoped to speak with those who had seen the chamber firsthand. In the village of Lixouri, I met a grandmother named Abbelina who claimed that she and her sister were the first to stumble upon the chamber. She remembered it as a small circular room about 7 feet in diameter with a low ceiling made from a single slab of granite. Within the room, she reported seeing a number of shattered urns, tablets, and decorative plates. "On the ceiling", she told me, "a single sentence was etched." "Theon paignia anthropoi." - "Men are the playthings of the Gods." "But the most striking detail", Abbelina told me, "was a single word carved over and over again on the walls and floor." The word was Enosîchthôn. Which translates as "the great earth-shaker." "The words scared us," Abbelina told me "and we left without taking anything with us."

The next day, I went to the home of a retired fisherman by the name of Alexander. He told me, over a glass of ouzo, that he had ridden his motorcycle to the site of the chamber as soon as he'd heard about it, hoping to find valuable artifacts that he could then sell. But as soon as he'd set foot inside, he recalled, the earth began to rattle with an aftershock. "I grasped for something, anything I could take with me," he said. "And then, I got out of there as fast as I could." Alexander took his treasure but later, when the chamber was buried again, he decided it would be bad luck to sell. After a few more glasses of ouzo, I convinced him to show me what he had found. It was a painted plate, depicting a group of six men dressed in long purple robes. I immediately recognized the significance of the purple robes. They were the special garments, worn by ancient Olympic caretakers known as agonothetai - the "game keepers." The agonothetai trained the Olympic athletes, organized the events, and refereed the competitions. The ancient Olympics were originally designed as a religious ritual. And so the most sacred duty of the agonothetai, according to histories written at the time, was to make sure the Gods were entertained by the Olympians' spectacular feats of athletic skill. Suddenly, the phrase on the ceiling made sense to me. "Men are the playthings of Gods." Could the Paliki chamber have been a meeting room for the ancient game keepers?

Before I left the island, I was able to find one more clue to the purpose of the secret chamber. I befriended one more survivor of the 1953 earthquakes, an artist named Costas who claimed to have taken charcoal rubbings of tablets in the Paliki chamber. Costas told me that he had sold many to tourists over the years, but that he still had one of the rubbings, and he was happy to show it to me. The rubbing was of a tablet addressed "to the agonothetai of the first year of the 160th Olympiad" or, 136 BC. Immediately, I suspected the document was a forgery. No one is quite sure why the change occurred, but no historian has ever found a reference to agonothetai at the Olympics after 480 BC. Clearly then, the rubbing was a fake. Was the entire story of the chamber a lie? One fact kept me from dismissing the rubbing as a fraud. The truth is, no one knows why the Greeks abandoned the agonothetai in favor of the hellanodikai. It remains an unsolved puzzle to this day.

Sitting with Costas on the island of Kefalonia, I couldn't help but wonder if perhaps this tablet was a major clue as to why the change had been made, and evidence that not everyone had been willing to go along with it. My artist friend had never had the rest of the tablet's text translated, so I did my best to read it on the spot. I was able to make out that it was a list of six attributes that defined an Olympic athlete. I had seen such ancient tablets created for game keepers before. Usually they listed characteristics like strength, speed, and endurance, but strangely, none of the attributes on this tablet related directly to athletic performance. Instead, it listed sofia, or wisdom; thumos, or courage; chariton, or charm; dikaiosune, or leadership; sophrosune, or temperance; and mythopoeia, or storytelling. What kind of Olympic games were these mysterious agonothetai running to replace speed with charm, endurance with storytelling? Is it possible that the agonothetai continued their work hundreds of years after we thought, perhaps unbeknownst even to their fellow ancient Greeks? If so, that would explain the unusual clues found in the Paliki chamber: the references to earth-shaking, the strange sacred duty written on the plate, and the list of "athletic" attributes on the tablet - none of which match anything else we know about the ancient game keepers. Did the agonothetai go underground? If so, why? Today, the Paliki chamber exists only in the memories of the few people who saw it. But their stories and souvenirs suggest that the agonothetai remained deeply involved in the ancient Olympics in ways that history has never recorded, and which we today may only begin to be able to understand.


It ends with a link to… thelostgames
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myf wrote:
This thing is moving so fast, I'm getting afraid to leave my computer in case there's a deluge of new stuff by the time I get back to it Laughing

HitsHerMark wrote:
Incidentally. Eli's other podcast.

The Ancient Game Keepers

Says that "Earth-Shaker" was written on the wall of the chamber.

This, I can tell you because he was my High School Mascot, is a reference to Poseidon.

I'll start looking into any connections between Poseidon and the Olympics.

This Earth-shaker thing also ties neatly to the bit of paper received by Ranger D - "You will soon make a decision of earthshaking importance." The turn of phrase struck me as odd at the time, but I didn't really think too much about it. So maybe we need to re-examine the other messages now as well.

The first podcast refers to signs of the lost game as ancient secrets in plain sight, which is along the lines of the message I received.

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