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Mirkomick
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 		Lucies Mail
Seems lucie is trying to say she is thinking about contacting Eli and asking RedHattys opinion about it.

My two cents with having in mind Markus video message from yesterday
and the following wikipedia excerpt

"Thumos (also commonly spelled "thymos") (Greek: θυμος) is an Ancient Greek word expressing the concept of spiritedness. The word indicates a physical association with breath or blood. The word is also used to express the human desire for recognition."

Markus begs the viewer to tell nobody about his whereabouts, so if Lucie contacts Eli I strongly suggests she will do the same, and keeping her whereabouts for herself.

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Troag Lee
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 		Re: Lucies Mail
Mirkomick wrote:
Seems lucie is trying to say she is thinking about contacting Eli and asking RedHattys opinion about it.

[...]

Markus begs the viewer to tell nobody about his whereabouts, so if Lucie contacts Eli I strongly suggests she will do the same, and keeping her whereabouts for herself.


This seems to be important. Perhaps we should try to limit the contact between Eli and the amnesiacs then. Eli might just be the enemy! Twisted Evil

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Weezel
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sapagoo wrote:
MrToasty wrote:
Check the related images under the podcast there as well - need to translate the tablet?

http://www.thelostgames.com/_res/img/gallery/episode1/Demetros-Plaque.jpg
http://www.thelostgames.com/_res/img/gallery/episode1/Corinthian-Tablet.jpg


The Demetros tablet should be easy. but...
all I've gotten so far is
EIZ
DEMETRION
NIK omega N
TEZ
PAIU NIAS
ALEthEIAS
MEUA....

Eiz could be Greek for "To"
Demetrion obviously relates to Demetros
NIK omega N may relate to conquer. I see it in a few translations.
ALEthEIAS is Greek for Truth

Aletheias & Demetrion are the 2 words I feel confident about.
Feel free to have a look.
Some of the alpha's look like omicrons. You definitely have to use the greek letters themselves before putting into googles Greek->English translator.


You also have to reverse it correct? Didn't the video say that the one tablet was seen from the back -- providing a mirror image?

.W.

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toggo
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 		Diego
Well i have talked to Diego and told him about the videos, Eli, the gamekeepers the athletes, everything we´ve been posting so far.
Today he told me he is gonna see the videos and check if anything comes to his mind.
I am talking with him every day via Gtalk, so mas plan for tomorrow or later today is to ask if he could try running or making any kind of sport with the blindfold so as to see if anything happens.
What do you think about it?'?

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 		Wow so many pages have been added since I las t looked here - sorry if any of this is a trout, but I don't have time to read the whole thread Sad

On Eli's site the Greek in the first podcast is in Modern Greek not Ancient Greek (I can read Greek out but don't know any of the words once I do!) This may not be important, but it does mean that we're supposed to be able to translate it.

I had a theory that since Eli was from York he would maybe be able to get in contact with Markus so I emailed him (not mentioning the Lost Ones as he could be a bad guy for all I know)

Quote:
On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 9:51 AM, Mink ette wrote:

Hello Eli,
I'd be interested in helping you with your investigations. I recently heard a rumour about something Olympic related turning up in York, do you still live there?
I can try to find out more for you if you think this might be of interest.

Best regards,

Minke Alberta


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Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 10:59:10 -0800
From: thelostgamessplatgooglemail.com
To: minkette'semailsplataddress.com
Subject: Re: Investigator


Dear Minke,

Thank you for your interest in my research. I am quite busy preparing for an important lecture this weekend, but rest assured I will be in touch in the future as opportunities arise for collaboration.

I am no longer located in York, however, so I am unable to follow up leads in that area.

Yours sincerely,

Eli Hunt


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On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Mink ette wrote:

Hello Eli,
Where is your lecture at the weekend? There isn't anything on your website about it - I know you don't like to to publicise your appearances, but is it in a forum where I could I come and here you speak?

Minke


Quote:


Dear Minke,

Thank you for you interest. Unfortunately, the lecture is a private affair, commissioned by a local benevolent organization.

It is strictly members only, and I do not intend to make public my lecture notes.

I assure you, however, that my most interesting theories will appear in the podcast series.

Sincerely yours,

Eli Hunt


Things that are odd but maybe not IG - Eli has two email addresses, neither are elisplatthelostgames.com (has anyone checked this already?)
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 		I think Eli doesn't trust us, he thinks we are just another bunch of kooks & the amnesiacs are a group of folks perpetrating a hoax based off his research. I don't think he is the enemy (of course, I have been wrong before) just overly cautious.

I am writing Lucie and asking her to not tell Eli her location if she contacts him. Of all of them, she is the one linked to "charm" so maybe she can get him to tell us the legend. Also maybe if Eli hears from them that we non-amnesiacs are the ones who led them to him, he might start to believe us & share some info.

Someone earlier asked why I thought the 6 were the agonothetai. 6 characteristics, 1 judge/trainer per characteristic. When the 6 "remembered" their "names" it just made sense - of course, I have been wrong many times before Smile
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 		Anagram
Keep in mind that Eli is an anagram for Lie

(But Eli Hunt also is an anagram for He unlit....)

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 		I can see how the characteristics are being connected to the athletes. But did i miss the part about how the agonothetaes fit in to those.? The original six adjectives described the traits of the athletes not of the agonothetai.

I think the six character traits are the ones that fit the athletes of 'the lost game'. Smile that our amnesiacs are athletes of the lost game, and that somehow, we've got to get them to do their thing.

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pallada
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 		demetrios tablet
Demetrios tablet reads:
For Demetrios
the one that won the game of truth
the year 350

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ncfriend wrote:
I think the six character traits are the ones that fit the athletes of 'the lost game'. Smile that our amnesiacs are athletes of the lost game, and that somehow, we've got to get them to do their thing.
That's a good thought! I was thinking that the lost game athletes would each possess all of the 6 traits to be candidates.

Email from Diego:
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Red, increíble lo que dice este historiador!!

qué pudo haber llevado a los griegos a destruir toda la evidencia
sobre "el juego más importante"? ¿Qué cosa puede ser tan importante
ocultar?
Dice que el deporte necesita memoria y orientación... puede eso estar
relacionado con el laberinto? Y por supuesto: la venda...

Quizá yo estaba jugando este juego, mantenido en secreto durante
tantos años, que es jugado con los ojos vendados y en un laberinto, y
de repente perdí mi memoria mientras lo jugaba. Podría ser que el
juego sea tan intenso que me haya hecho perder la memoria??

O alguna especie de secta borró mi memoria a propósito, quizá pensando
o sabiendo que yo iba a develar el secreto de este juego... ahora que
lo pienso, dice orientación, pero no menciona específicamente ningún
laberinto. Si pudiéramos relacionar lo que dice este historiador con
los laberintos, seguro es una pista, ya que laberinto y con ojos
vendados definitivamente no es una coincidencia...

me da la sensación que esto tiene que tener algo que ver con nosotros,
pero todavía hay muchas más preguntas que respuestas... qué pensás al
respecto? alguna teoría o hipótesis?

Google translation - needs some serious polishing
Quote:
Red, which says this incredible historian!

What may have led to the Greeks to destroy all the evidence
On the "most important game"? What can be so important
Hide?
He says the sport needs to memory and orientation ... That can be
Related to the maze? And of course: the band ...

Maybe I was playing this game, kept secret during
Many years, which is played while blindfolded and in a maze, and
Suddenly lost my memory while you played. It could be that
Game is so intense that has made me lose memory?

Or some kind of cult erased my memory the way, perhaps thinking
Or knowing that I was going to reveal the secret of this game ... Now that
I think about it, said guidance, but does not specifically mention any
Maze. If we could relate what he says this with historian
Labyrinths, insurance is a track, since maze and eyes
Blindfolded definitely is not a coincidence ...

I feel that this must have something to do with us,
But there are still many more questions than answers ... What to pensás
Respect? Any theory or hypothesis?

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 		The details have been lost so long--we have no idea how the athletes or the agonothetai were chosen for each set of games. Maybe the winning atheletes from one year become the agonothetai of the next set of games. It seems to me that our six people could fit either role well; when things fit so nicely, it makes me think the roles do not need to be mutually exclusive.

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 		Use of 696
I noticed that a number of the characters have mentioned greek words followed by 696.

2008 is the 4th year of the 696th Olympiad.

I'm not sure if that has already been posted.

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 		Corinthian tablet
Corinthian tablet is difficult to translate, mainly because it is not clear. My first attempt is this:

Olympia
for the athlete
Three months study (study meaning working on something very hard) - courage and patience
Six months study - learning by hart what is written in the tablet - then something is missing - reading backwards with no use (???)
Ten month study - beats me if i can understand what is written there.

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RedHatty wrote:
ncfriend wrote:
I think the six character traits are the ones that fit the athletes of 'the lost game'. Smile that our amnesiacs are athletes of the lost game, and that somehow, we've got to get them to do their thing.
That's a good thought! I was thinking that the lost game athletes would each possess all of the 6 traits to be candidates.

Email from Diego:
Quote:
Red, increíble lo que dice este historiador!!

qué pudo haber llevado a los griegos a destruir toda la evidencia
sobre "el juego más importante"? ¿Qué cosa puede ser tan importante
ocultar?
Dice que el deporte necesita memoria y orientación... puede eso estar
relacionado con el laberinto? Y por supuesto: la venda...

Quizá yo estaba jugando este juego, mantenido en secreto durante
tantos años, que es jugado con los ojos vendados y en un laberinto, y
de repente perdí mi memoria mientras lo jugaba. Podría ser que el
juego sea tan intenso que me haya hecho perder la memoria??

O alguna especie de secta borró mi memoria a propósito, quizá pensando
o sabiendo que yo iba a develar el secreto de este juego... ahora que
lo pienso, dice orientación, pero no menciona específicamente ningún
laberinto. Si pudiéramos relacionar lo que dice este historiador con
los laberintos, seguro es una pista, ya que laberinto y con ojos
vendados definitivamente no es una coincidencia...

me da la sensación que esto tiene que tener algo que ver con nosotros,
pero todavía hay muchas más preguntas que respuestas... qué pensás al
respecto? alguna teoría o hipótesis?



"Red, it's unbelievable what this historian says!!

What could led the Greeks to destroy all the evidence of "the most important game"? What is so important to hide?

[He] says that this sport needs memory and orientation... can that be related to the labyrinth? And of course, the blindfold...

Maybe I was playing this game, kept in secret for years, that is played blindfolded and in a labyrinth, and suddenly I lost my memory while I was playing. Could it be that the game was so intense it made me lost my memory?

Or some kind of cult erased my memory on purpose, maybe thinking or knowing that I was going to reveal the secret of this game... now that I think about, [he] says orientation, but doesn't mention a labyrinth. If we could relate what this historian says with the labyrinths, it would be a clue, since labyrinth and blindfolded is not a coincidence.

It gives me the feeling that this has to be related to us in some way, but there are many more questions than answers... what do you think about it? Any theory or hypothesis?"

There, much better than google I hope... Smile

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 		I got the same email from Diego that he sent to RedHatty. Here's my translation (with slight differences from the google translator - my changes in bold):

Quote:
Red, what the historian said is incredible!

What may have led to the Greeks to destroy all the evidence on the "most important game"? What can be so important hide?
He says the sport needs memory and orientation ... Could that be related to the maze? And of course: the blidfold...

Maybe I was playing this game, kept secret during many years, which is played while blindfolded and in a maze, and suddenly lost my memory while I played. It could be that game is so intense that has made me lose memory?

Or some kind of cult erased my memory on purpose(?), perhaps thinking or knowing that I was going to reveal the secret of this game ... Now that I think about it, it said orienteering, but it does not specifically mention any maze/labyrinth. If we could relate what he (the historian) says this with the Labyrinths, that's a clue for sure, since the maze/labyrinth and the eyes blindfolded definitely is not a coincidence ...

I feel that this must have something to do with us, but there are much more more questions than answers ... What do you think about this? Any theory or hypothesis?



EDIT: Oops, FMG beat me to it. Too slow.

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