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[RING][EMAIL] Diego March 9 - new character, Monica?
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katya2032
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swirl wrote:
trident is the symbol of Poseidon or Neptune
but I think the zodiac is aquarius not pisces
so 20 degrees south east
that would fit from stuartfield to london
but 595 = 110km not


Aquarius is ruled by Uranus.

Pisces, the fish, is ruled by Poseidon. The symbol looks either like the fins of a fish or the points of two tridents facing away from each other.

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Tenchizard
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Hi, I've been mailing Monica to try to get any more clues. I suggested her to contact Eli Hunt, and offered myself to be the translator if she is not good with english. She has agreed to send me a note so I cand send it to Eli Hunt.

About the omphalos thing: the new podcast has really set this going! I think the rest as some of you said, the "omphalos" of reference should be the place where the previous 6 were found. I'll check googlemaps too, and if I find something new, I'll tell.

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Tenchizard
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I got the note from Monica, and sent a translation to Hunt, here is what I sent:
Code:
Mr. Hunt,
I'd like to send you some information I have in my possession which I think can be of interest to you. As I don't speak English very well, my friend Julio has offered to be a mediator and translator. He, just like me, is trying to help the people who have awakened in a labyrinth suffering from amnesia.

My great-uncle found a similar story back in 1988:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKr7aVo2tcQ&eurl

Furthermore, I have some detailed images of the postcard and the tattoo drawing. I have attached them too.

I hope all this is useful to you and be assured you can count on us for anything.

Greetings,
Monica


I also added some extra info pointing at the omphalos code shown in the video, and let Hunt know there are a lot of people helping them, to try him to trust us some more and give us more clues about this omphalos codes hidden

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kosmopol
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Noriko wrote about Monika:

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ディエゴさんからメールをもらって、モニカさんのお話について知ったのですが、全部スペイン語なので、最初は全くモニカさんが言っている事も書いている事も分かりませんでした。大まかなお話をHitshermarkさんが省略して教えてくれて、Valadimirさんとかにも助けてもらって、なんとなく分かった気がします(Thank you!)。

モニカさんの大叔父さんが、子供の頃に、私達と同じ状況にいた人を知っていたそうです。刺青は違うようなのですが、同じく記憶喪失でラビリンスで目覚め、そして彼と同じ状況の人が、他に5人いたようなのです。でも、それは100年以上前の、1880年代だったそうです。ディエゴさんのホームページに、モニカさんの持っている手がかりの葉書等が載っています。  http://www.findthelostring.com/diego/home.do 

それが本当のお話であれば、同じく6人が、同じ時期にラビリンスで記憶喪失で目が覚めた、というのは偶然には思えません。そして、その6人は記憶を取り戻して家に帰った、という感じではないので、これは私達6人にとっていいニュースであるのかどうか。。。それに私にはこの葉書が何を意味するのか全く分かりません。裏の絵も、きれいだな、と思うけど私には見覚えはないですし。そして葉書の表には住所じゃない何かが書かれている感じがして、スペイン語が分かればなあ、と思っちゃいます。ここに書いてある事、この絵も手がかりになると思うのですが、どう思われます?でも、それはモニカさんのストーリーが本当であれば、というのを前提にしているわけですが。。。(^-^;)


I'm translating it now

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I've got from Diego an email, and although I've heard about Monicas story, it was in Spain, so I couldn't understand it. Then Hitshermark told me the summary of this story and Vladimir helped me with understanding, so I've anyhow understood. (Thank you!)

The granduncle of Monica seems to know in his childhood about somebody with the same situation as us. Althought he had another tattoo, he had also the same amnesia and he woke up in a labyrinth. And he had also 5 another people with the same situation. But it was more than for 100 years, in 1880. Diego posted in his homepage the postcards etc. which belong to Monica
http://www.findthelostring.com/diego/home.do

I don't think, it were an accident that in the same time 6 people wake up in labyrinths with amnesia. And that people had got their memories back and returned home, so although we haven't the same situation now, but it could be good news... But I cannot understand, which sense does that postcard have. The picture on the back side, is beautiful, but I cannot recognize it. And the face side doesn't include an adress, but something in Spain... If I could understand Spanish!.. I think, the text on that side can be a key, but how can we understand it? And if the story of Monica is really true, so we could use it as a hint?


(and Vladimir, it's me Wink )

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Troag Lee
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katya2032 wrote:
swirl wrote:
trident is the symbol of Poseidon or Neptune
but I think the zodiac is aquarius not pisces
so 20 degrees south east
that would fit from stuartfield to london
but 595 = 110km not


Aquarius is ruled by Uranus.

Pisces, the fish, is ruled by Poseidon. The symbol looks either like the fins of a fish or the points of two tridents facing away from each other.


I don't want to lose this track. Lets try this: What if the tattooed man left for London, only to find his way to the position 20degrees SSW of Stuartfield. Where did he end up?

I don't know what tools to use to figure this out. But it could be something like Bristol, or Cardiff!

Cardiff would be cool.

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[M]
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Troag Lee wrote:
katya2032 wrote:
swirl wrote:
trident is the symbol of Poseidon or Neptune
but I think the zodiac is aquarius not pisces
so 20 degrees south east
that would fit from stuartfield to london
but 595 = 110km not


Aquarius is ruled by Uranus.

Pisces, the fish, is ruled by Poseidon. The symbol looks either like the fins of a fish or the points of two tridents facing away from each other.


I don't want to lose this track. Lets try this: What if the tattooed man left for London, only to find his way to the position 20degrees SSW of Stuartfield. Where did he end up?

I don't know what tools to use to figure this out. But it could be something like Bristol, or Cardiff!

Cardiff would be cool.


Using google maps I ended up somewhere north form Arbroath. But I am not an expert in Scottish geography so I could be wrong.

HTH

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Troag Lee
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Someone mentioned London as a possibility which I just accepted. Of course, now I came to my senses and realized that we are only talking about 110 Km. That is not very much, So Cardiff is very much out.

Thanks [M] for finding that little, coastal Scottish place. I might still be where the man went, though. If we believe that the centre of the labyrinths serve as the Omphalos starting point.

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At 110 km SSW from whether Stuartfield, Stuartville or Stewartville there is more or less nothing. From the Eli podcast we know, that the Omphalas should point to some important or major city. So I am personally very sceptic that the omphalos is in Stuartville.

Perhaps, we should think the way around. Let's assume we know the Target (e.g. London), than we can now determine the position of the omphalos. It should be 110 km NNE.

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I just tried gmaps in a hurry and arrived nearby Corby when moving 110km NNE from the centre of london....

***EDIT***

Hit me hard, I moved NNW Smile ---- In a hurry, have to leave now (At least you can't hit me now Smile

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AUZ505 wrote:
At 110 km SSW from whether Stuartfield, Stuartville or Stewartville there is more or less nothing. From the Eli podcast we know, that the Omphalas should point to some important or major city. So I am personally very sceptic that the omphalos is in Stuartville.

Perhaps, we should think the way around. Let's assume we know the Target (e.g. London), than we can now determine the position of the omphalos. It should be 110 km NNE.


That's a good idea. I'll try to see what can be found.

Interesting... There is a little town 110Km (aprox) away from London in that direction... named Ely!

Which is kind of similar to the greek Elis...

I'll try to find out more about this small place...

--------------

EDIT:

So, apparently we have a labyrinth somewhere in Ely's Cathedral:

http://tinyurl.com/2qcwzt
(Look for it: ID#1129)

Although this may be just coincidence.

EDIT - shrunk long url ~ myf

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I think we ignored one interesting fact from Elis podcast

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Curiously, by retracing these coded navigation routes, historians have found something very unusual in the layout of the omphalos network. Somehow, the Greeks managed to construct their omphaloi of the center nodes of a system of perfectly equidistant destinations. For every destination in one direction, you could travel exactly the same distance in another direction, and arrive at an important site.


This means every omphalos is placed in such a manner, that two important sites (whatever this could be) can bereached in exactly the same distance.
This also means the "Trident omphalos" is placed 110 km NNE of one important site AND 110 km away (in an unknown direction) to a second important site.

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AUZ505 wrote:
At 110 km SSW from whether Stuartfield, Stuartville or Stewartville there is more or less nothing.


well, I wouldn't say nothing.
1)If you look on a map, SSW follows the direction of the coast of Scotland.
2) I think 110km reaches: Arbroath / or Forfar as the bigger towns, with plenty of history and ancient monuments.

Could have measured it wrong, but a few miles down the road is the major city of Dundee. How are people measuring the distance, and direction?
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I used google earth. There is some kind of ruler measuring distances (but no angles Sad )

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I've just found an excellent tool to measure distances:

http://www.daftlogic.com/projects-google-maps-distance-calculator.htm

HTH

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just thinking loud:

there must be several omphalos stones, for example on the british island
one omphalos code will only show you the nearest next omphalos stone in a given direction. (not necessarily still in a big city)
so going from stuartfield to london would consist of 4 or 5 or more codes. from omphalos to omphalos.
eli hunt's introduction about the omphalos code was 'Imagine you're wandering the countryside of ancient Greece. You're lost, and the only clue you have to your location is a stone marker inscribed with the number 6-7-6 and a bow and arrow, the sign of the Olympian God Artemis. Would you be able to find your way home? '

without a clear point to start, your omphalos code is meaningless. like 'my treasure lies 200m in the south, but i don't tell you from where to start', it's just impossible.

so one given code like '595 trident 20' only works for one certain omph stone to one certain second one (despite possible coincidence)
(and thanks to katya2032 for correcting my bad astrology, the difference between 110km SSE and SSW is really significant)

without further informations (like codes) I must asume that Jorge from 1888 had to start from stuartfield. there must have been his start point. there must have been or still is an omphalos. maybe its the labyrinth itself.
his code could have led him to the city of Forfar (north of dundee) around 110km SSW

and believing the basic terms of the code won't change: the maximum distance from one stone to another would be 999 stad (185km)

and thanks to jsky for the quick translation of the greek charcoal rubber

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