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[RING][Podcast] #secret - The Secret Artifact
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FMG
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Re: translation

lindoriel379 wrote:
Is there a translation available for this pages yet? I finished one by myself, but assuredly there are far better Esperantists out there. Should I post what I put together? This is my first post and I don't want to step on any toes.


I think that nobody translated these new pages yet, so go ahead and post it, somebody will correct them if required, and we'll have an idea of what they say.

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Re: translation

lindoriel379 wrote:
Is there a translation available for this pages yet? I finished one by myself, but assuredly there are far better Esperantists out there. Should I post what I put together? This is my first post and I don't want to step on any toes.


It's my turn to say "post it! post it!" now Laughing I think we're all wearing shoes.

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ok well here goes. just me, wikipedia, the dictionary, and dogged determination not to do homework to thank for this. Words I was unsure of are in parenthesis, and I tried to do my best at making the language flow.

The 6 Travelers

We had forgotten all of it when we woke up here in this world.

Rakhee - In a church yard in Trojaborg, Sweeden
Akira - Near a watermill in Stora Anras
Micha - Behind the mill in (Valo) Rock in Cornwall, South England
Kelly - On the cliffs of the archapeligo of Scilly, near the southern coast of Cornwall in England
Jorge - On a form in Stuartfield, Scotland
Jules - In a cathedral, Bayeax, France


We were lucky that the (neodrinara=??) way of our arrival made a strong impression on the cities in which we were found, half clothed that we were, blindfolded, according to reports not wake-able for a few days, and then mostly incapable of speaking the local language. Information was separate concerning our dramatic and unexplained appearance, and through great good fortune, that those of us who woke up in the same region, Bakhee and Akira, Micha and Kelly, soon were together through the (disigo=spread?) of local gossip.

Nevertheless, we needed more than a year for the remainder of us to find one another and even longer to find our true purpose. If the tattoos we wore on our right arms hadn't existed, I am sure that we would not have succeeded in our mission.

Finally, we learned to navigate following the code, and used it in order to travel to the archeological site beside ancient Olympia. There we studied and (en?etadis=enketadis=investigated?) for many years, activating our lost memories, practicing our sport and putting our plan into action.

Finally, we understood our mission here thusly: To initiate your world in the lost tradition of the labyrinth and synchronous athletics, and to restore the network of labyrinth omphaloi. If we are successful, not only will we save many worlds, but we also will have means to return home.

We leave behind here this codex because we ascertained, that maybe we weren't the first six sent to this world, and maybe we were not the last. We wish to help the future travelers to learn and to act faster than us. One thing - It was very difficult to be parted from our families and our homes during that long time. Another thing is, that with each passing year, we carried the weight burden of the knowledge, that we risked the loss of another world. Because of those two things, it was without fail that somebody was going to start and activate this quickly for that much of memory-helper perhaps.

Here this codex is your memory-helper and your index.

We chose the language Esperanto for here this text because of the difficulty that we had communicating with one another. We are encouraged by the invention of a universal language and aim, when we return home, to create our own personal version of the great work of Szmurlo. With a little luck, already when you (Lgas=igas=get?) this, Esperanto, will be a second language for every world-wide traveller. Since it is still a new language for us we hope that you will pardon some translation mistakes that we make.

We made 7 copies of this text and intend to return home (kun po n=kunporti=taking along?) one text after having left one there you, (disigita= spread?) across the globe in order to assure that it will be found and understood only by similar travelers. An accident start and activation could be extremely dangerous for your world, and therefore we nearly tried to prevent entirely that somebody have the knowledge within this except that they were sent in a mission to reclaim it.

We indicated each chapter of the copy of the codex by a sign of (rehavigo=reclaiming?), so if communication is restricted across the world, we will be able to follow your progress. We believe that with the help of this codex, you will be able to finish your mission in 5 years.

Remember: This was only the second of 27 chapters in the code. We wish you luck and safe travels in the vast travels that you undertake to reclaim them.

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Great job translating, lindoriel!!

I'll just make one addition to the 3rd paragraph, by incorporating the Greek symbols:
"Finally, we understood our mission here thusly: To initiate your world in the lost tradition of the labyrinth and synchronous athletics, and to restore the network of labyrinth omphaloi (or the omphaloi in the labyrinths.)"

25 more chapters to go...Whoo-hoo!

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Good catch, Elizabeth. The translation on the wiki currently says "to restore the network of agonothetai, but your version makes more sense given a question this raises for me:

Notice that none of these six people woke up in a labyrinth, unlike our current amnesiacs. [spec] Did something these six did somehow ensure that our current amnesiacs would wake up in labyrinths?

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We leave behind here this codex because we ascertained, that maybe we weren't the first six sent to this world, and maybe we were not the last.
u made only one mistake i see, u put were, its weren't... other than that great job and thx for the translation... its in the fourth paragraph

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I made those changes, and also added in the chunk I forgot about where each of the 6 were found.
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lindoriel379 wrote:
We indicated each chapter of the copy of the codex by a sign of (rehavigo=reclaiming?), so if communication is restricted across the world, we will be able to follow your progress. We believe that with the help of this codex, you will be able to finish your mission in 5 years.


Just reading into this part of the text, my spec is these six may be the agons running the secret site, that the "sign of reclaiming" is the code at the bottom of each text, and activating the code in the site is the way they'll "be able to follow our progress." Not sure why they're saying it'd take 5 years to finish...

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Directions

Regarding Chapter 2, I notice that the compass of directions uses English labels (E for East and W for West, etc). If they were Esperanto, the labels would have to be "Orienta" and "Okcidenta" for East and West. Not sure if this was an intentional choice or not.

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consider the time period they were in, boats take months to cross the ocean and there was no planes so they were considering that it would take 5 years to get all the documents, and there was no codex yet so they were working without any help except each other... also Pruvo De Rehavigo means Proof of Recovery

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dreamerblue wrote:
Notice that none of these six people woke up in a labyrinth, unlike our current amnesiacs.


I don't think this is quite true:

Rakhee - In a church yard in Trojaborg, Sweden
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Akira - Near a watermill in Stora Anras
link

Micha - Behind the mill in Rocky Valley in Cornwall, South England
link

Kelly - On the cliffs of the archapeligo of Scilly, near the southern coast of Cornwall in England
link

Jorge - On a farm in Stuartfield, Scotland
link (scroll down)

Jules - In a cathedral, Bayeax, France
link

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Elizabeth123
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Trout me if somebody's talked about this before, but did anyone mention the greek letters below the labyrinths in the tatoos? It reads MUEIN (Mu, Upsilon, Epsilon, Iota, Nu)...which means "shut the eyes" in Greek. Not really informative, but interesting.

Somebody must've talked about this before...

Also, I understand the 595, but what's the 20 in their tatoo?

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Elizabeth123 wrote:
Trout me if somebody's talked about this before, but did anyone mention the greek letters below the labyrinths in the tatoos? It reads MUEIN (Mu, Upsilon, Epsilon, Iota, Nu)...which means "shut the eyes" in Greek. Not really informative, but interesting.

Somebody must've talked about this before...

Also, I understand the 595, but what's the 20 in their tatoo?


Yes. People have been discussing the meaning of that word. You can do a search for it (Very top right corner of any forum page next to the FAQ link) and also somebody started a separate thread to discuss it here.

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595

Notice the hands in Chapter 2 show "595" as opposed to "696" for our current crop of amnesiacs. There is a numbering scheme implicit in this. And if we read the Greek name and use the other number, we may get additional logins into the omphaputer. Just a thought.

Note that Artifact 2 has been definitively translated (well, 2 of us worked on it) in the wiki: http://olympics.wikibruce.com/Artifacts#Austin

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HitsHerMark wrote:
Well, we don't know that these locations don't each have a labyrinth, but then, they all woke up with a labyrinth tattooed on their arms.

So the question is, what do these six locations have in common?


have u looked at the links, each place has a labyrinth drawing... thats what they have in common... they woke up in places with a drawing of the labyrinth unlike our current amnesiacs who woke up in real labyriths

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