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[RING][PUZZLE]Eli Hunt/Secret site
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Dracmir
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I added myself to the map, hopefully I didn't break anything. Sadly, I cannot get the global dots thingy to work on my laptop. Just get a black screen. Dot's don't like me. But I'll try later on my PC, just to see what all the fuss is about.


Yeah, I got the same problem at college, it seems Internet Explorer doesn't like some flash objects, just switch to Mozilla or Opera

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Transtar
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 		Ok, I'm sure I'm not seeing things this time, there is a dim red dot in northern india (looks like to me anyway). looks to be along the nepal/india border.

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AUZ505
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Transtar wrote:
Ok, I'm sure I'm not seeing things this time, there is a dim red dot in northern india (looks like to me anyway). looks to be along the nepal/india border.


That should be the already identified NEW/DELHI omphalos.

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Transtar wrote:
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Ok, I'm sure I'm not seeing things this time, there is a dim red dot in northern india (looks like to me anyway). looks to be along the nepal/india border.


That is NEW/DELHI

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riquardo
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 		So in Larissa's forum there's someone (don't know if he visits this forums or not) who made a post I found intriguing. He also posted in english in Ariadne's forums, as follows:

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Hi,


My Name is Douglas Alves, I am from Brazil and I believe to have found an information useful all we to help to Ariadne and all the others to find its friends and to try to discover what it is for backwards of this tram. They forgive therefore I do not say English, I am using a translator and some words, can leave wrong.




When attending trailers I had the impression to have seen images subliminares, I decided then to again attend to frame frame.E for my surprise many things had now appeared, ones of that more it intrigued me were the photos that said look for for delphi, after one another research I found an image that proved mine suspicion of that tools exist that in will help to decide them this mystery.


The Ariadne found a binary code of omphaputer (http://164.109.150.213/index.html ] That they would be vestibules that take the people of a locality to another one, then I decided to analyze the photos of the site and also that tool that makes the photos to turn and to give zoom, I found to that familiar, the white eyeglasses also were intriguing me, but as in the language of vocês, eyeglasses they are gogles, I found the charada one in the hour.


One of the images subliminares that they had given to me the tip is in 2°trailer to the 39 seconds, where it appears an image of google Earth.


What I made, I had access the site http://164.109.150.213/index.html and I perceived the similarity that had in the globe with another globe, then I had access the Google Earth and I decided to type only the codes binary and know what it happened: It found all the existing omphalos already in the world, also some are activated and others not. Most intriguing it is that omphalos in the way exist it sea that must have to have with the New Atlantis. We need to analise everything this with calm, but I wait to have helped.


Ariadne, Brazil is with you.


The question that is is: Why google is involved in this everything? Other corporations also are part of Lost Ring?


I wait to keep contact !


Douglas


Does anybody know what binary codes is he talking about? Larissa replied to him (in portuguese) that he should share this information, as more heads together would thing better.

Back to Ariadne's forum, someone then posted:

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Re: Google Earth = Omphaputer - Subliminar Images

WAIT!!! Hold up. You found ALL of the omphaloi using google earth? Now all we need to know are the codenames for the sites.



To which he replied:

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Re: Google Earth = Omphaputer - Subliminar Images


I did not find all, but I believe that the Google Earth is a navigator to discover where they are the devices, the omphalos trace an only route for the globe, some are on, and others off. It makes a test, it goes in google earth and it types: 164.109.150.213


I'm going to ask him if he could give more details.


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EDIT: i just read the dots thread and realize this guy might've bumped into something a player made (Eclipseyue?) to keep track of things. Nevermind! I also just noted that this guy might've google translated his portuguese forum post to english, as it's difficult to understand what he says above.

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mr.judkins
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 		Hey Riquardo, you're quite right - this appears to be an integration between Google Earth and the Google Maps that players have made through the course of the game (myself included).

I've replied to Doug on Ariadne's English in-game forums with such...

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Shad0
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 		Re: [RING][PUZZLE]Eli Hunt/Secret site
Re: binary code
riquardo wrote:
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The Ariadne found a binary code of omphaputer (http://164.109.150.213/index.html ]

Does anybody know what binary codes is he talking about?

Eli Hunt originally discovered the IP address for the Omphaputer site by examining handwritten notes in an old copy of a Francis Bacon book. Interpreting "yes" as 1 and "no" as 0 gives four strings of eight digits each; converting those binary numbers to decimal numbers gives the address of the site.

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riquardo
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riquardo wrote:
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The Ariadne found a binary code of omphaputer (http://164.109.150.213/index.html ]

Does anybody know what binary codes is he talking about?

Eli Hunt originally discovered the IP address for the Omphaputer site by examining handwritten notes in an old copy of a Francis Bacon book. Interpreting "yes" as 1 and "no" as 0 gives four strings of eight digits each; converting those binary numbers to decimal numbers gives the address of the site.

Explanation on the Wiki


Oh that binary code. From his explanation I thought he was talking about a command to input in the omphaputer. But all this confusion about google earth and the brazillian on Larissa's forum has now been sorted out. Carry on!

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AUZ505
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 		But I can understand that he was curious. Typing in 164.109.150.213 in the google earth search window and than finding all omphalos sites.
But how does someone get the idea, putting an IP address into google earth Surprised

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Isaac Dodgson
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 		Larissa has replied to me on Ariadne forum, stating basically that doug has stumbled upon someone keeping track of things on Google earth (this we already know) However I'm a bit behind on all of this (I've been gone for the day) So I'm not entirely sure what has been surmised and or explained...can someone summarize for me?

Oh, and she wants my input and ideas as well, which i can't give being behind and all...

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JamesSF
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 		I have a hypothesis about what all of the dots on the Omphaputer globe represent.

There is a very similar-looking display in the main lobby at Google HQ. I can't find a screenshot of it on the web, but it contains a similar-looking rotating globe. Instead of single dots on the Earth's surface, there are vertical stacks of dots forming lines coming out of the earth. The height of the line reflects how much search volume they are getting from that location on the Earth. They may even have falling dots representing incoming traffic, I don't remember.

I suspect each dot on the Omphaputer globe corresponds to someone hitting the Omphaputer website. The dots are probably not being triggered in real time, as I don't recall seeing the dots in the USA drastically slowing down at 4am last night (for example). It may just display falling dots based on the most recent traffic history.

Anyway, this hypothesis would explain why:

- Multiple dots can appear around one Omphaloi -- it could be different people on different computers in the same region hitting the website, but both within some radius that triggers a colored dot

- Different Omphaloi on the map appear at different times -- someone from one geographic area may not have hit the website recently

Come to think of it, this could also explain why Ariadne's tasks today were encouraging us to find places of the globe we are underrepresented, and to start recruiting there. If they have an Omphaloi in Siberia, then we won't see it unless we've got some players hitting the website from there.

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 		The white dots might be omphaputer users. But not the colored dots. Those are omphaloi and artifact locations. Secondary dots in similar locations may be - new artifacts? omphaputer glitches? I really doubt they are players because we don't have just one or two players in Germany. For example.

Personally I think the white dots are not just us, but rather internet or perhaps just google users generally.
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Aerith
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 		My boyfriend pointed out somewhere in this forum sometime ago that the white dots look quite similar to the internet-nods.

http://chrisharrison.net/projects/InternetMap/medium/worlddotblack.jpg

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JamesSF
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aliendial wrote:
The white dots might be omphaputer users. But not the colored dots. Those are omphaloi and artifact locations.


What I'm suggesting is that the location of a dot could be determined by the location of the person accessing the website, and the color of the dot could be determined by the state of any artifacts at that location (white == none or unactivated, red == pending, green == ready for retrieval, etc.)


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Secondary dots in similar locations may be - new artifacts? omphaputer glitches? I really doubt they are players because we don't have just one or two players in Germany.


I'm confused as to what you mean about Germany... there aren't just one or two globe dots on Germany either, are there?

One test for the hypothesis would be whether the distribution of dots on the Omphaputer globe is similar to our geographical distribution of participating players!

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JamesSF wrote:
aliendial wrote:
The white dots might be omphaputer users. But not the colored dots. Those are omphaloi and artifact locations.


What I'm suggesting is that the location of a dot could be determined by the location of the person accessing the website, and the color of the dot could be determined by the state of any artifacts at that location (white == none or unactivated, red == pending, green == ready for retrieval, etc.)


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Secondary dots in similar locations may be - new artifacts? omphaputer glitches? I really doubt they are players because we don't have just one or two players in Germany.


I'm confused as to what you mean about Germany... there aren't just one or two globe dots on Germany either, are there?

One test for the hypothesis would be whether the distribution of dots on the Omphaputer globe is similar to our geographical distribution of participating players!


Did you make the experience that the white dots change from time to time?
Maybe I get you wrong but as far as I understood what you are trying to explain, the white dots should change/have changed or at least have grown since the beginning.

The white dots looked the same for me all the time as far as I remember.

*Aerith*

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