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[RING][ARTIFACT] Chapter 3 (@ Stockholm, Sweden)
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 		[RING][ARTIFACT] Chapter 3 (@ Stockholm, Sweden)
I opened this thread for discussion about the artifact at Stockholm, the translation is incomplete...

esperanto-tim wrote:
OK, here's a rough draft:

As soon as we started to get our memories back, we set off to search for the Agonothetai. We believed that our main mission was to search for these secret game-keepers and inform them that their efforts keep failing for some reason.

After several years of unsuccessful searching, however, we had to conclude that the Agonothetai no longer existed in your world.

How is this possible? Until this day, we don't have clear answers.

When we first arrived, we learned that the ancient tradition of the Olympiad had been [lost/abandoned] in this world. But we hoped that the secret games were continuing in some form, even in the absence of the official Olympics.

We had a reason for our optimism. It surprised us to come across hundreds of labyrinths across the world. Some were several hundred years old. Others dated from as recently as the last several decades.

We were enthused to find that the art of labyrinth making had not been lost -- on the contrary, it was flourishing. But we were curious as to who was making these labyrinths, and why, if not the Agonothetai.

All indications now lead us to the belief that the crucial aim of the labyrinth – to link the worlds and enable athletic synchronisation – was not only completely forgotten in your world; it had been consciously destroyed many centuries previously, forcing a few to continue the tradition in secret.

We don't know what happened to the few who continued the responsibilities of the Agonothetai in secret. What we do know for certain is that no-one is left today to essential task to save the worlds.

We of course tried to find allies sympathic to our cause. We went to no less than Herculean lengths to persuade historians, archaeologists and local chiefs everywhere we travelled of the need to understand the ancient traditions. However, with such a paucity of evidence on my part, the six of us were unable to convince more than a few.

We failed to construct new Agonothetai worthy of the task.


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Plan:

When we learned of the great project of Pierre de Coubertin, we thought we had found a solution to the problem of the missing Agonothetai. We could use the modern Olympics as a primary means of synchronisation.

At the same time, we could depend on the labyrinth builders today to organise this world*... even without their knoweldge. [*Translator's note: the word here is given as "modo" in the original and means "fashion", but is probably a typo, and should say "mondo", i.e. "world". I've put "world in my translation above.]

The little paths here are the same as ours. Parallel journeys would seem to be possible, even without the ancient knowledge of the aim which they serve. With so many labyrinths and cultures around the world dedicated to passing into labyrinths, we believe that it's possible to organise even without Agonothetai.... (continues)


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 		...continued from first post above:

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But if we're wrong, then the task of creating a new [gap in original text] will undoubtedly rest on the shoulders of travellers, to reconstruct the ancient organisation* for modern times. [*This word actually appears in English, not in Esperanto, in the original; probably just a typo.]

If you were sent here in a team of six, then undoubtedly this task will be the core of your mission. You must recruit members for a new Agonothetai and if your team of six is similar to ours, you are most probably Olympic athletes, or ever Agonothetai from your own worlds.

You do have the required knowledge and talent required to carry out this mission, whether or not you are aware of it yet.

The Mission

You must establish new Agonothetai. [Note that "Agonothetai" is plural here, but I don't know what the plural is in English – "Agonothetais", or something else?] Their members must be trusted individuals, on all continents, capable of building labyrinths and practising the lost sport.

They must be dedicated to the learning of the science of athletic synchronisation, must understand the theory of the many worlds, and must build and secure a network of Omphaloi.

These new Agonothetai will be more than game-keepers. They will be "ring leaders"* guiding your world's journey back to the synchronised ring of many worlds. [*Note: the words "ring leaders" appear in English, in quotes, in the original document.]

You cannot leave this world until you are certain that these new "ring leaders" * are capable of secretly continuing the ancient traditions after you have gone home. [*Strangely, the first 14 words of this paragraph, i.e. You cannot ... "ring leaders", appear in English in the middle of all the Esperanto in the original document.

Proof of recovery: 25MC/I2YJ/LAH5/I8MR/R72S


That's a first draft translation, including a few notes inline. It'll no doubt get polished up and move to a more stable and easily findable home on the wiki:
http://olympics.wikibruce.com/Artifacts

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 		It's starting to sound more and more like we (the players) are intended to be the new Agonethetai/ ring leaders: "on all continents"; "build and secure a network of Omphaloi"...

So it looks like in future we'll be looking at "athletic synchronisation" and a "theory" of multiple universes. I wonder if we'll actually be taught or have to build a labyrinth tho. Very Happy

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Gerri wrote:
It's starting to sound more and more like we (the players) are intended to be the new Agonethetai/ ring leaders: "on all continents"; "build and secure a network of Omphaloi"...

So it looks like in future we'll be looking at "athletic synchronisation" and a "theory" of multiple universes. I wonder if we'll actually be taught or have to build a labyrinth tho. Very Happy


Wouldn't that be grand... grander than answering a pay phone... Smile
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 		...building one would be an awful lot of work tho....! >.<

And just as an aside, is anyone seeing a bit of subtle irony in this? Considering that the Agonothetai used to be the ones who taught, trained, disciplined and judged athletes, that's now being turned around; the athletes are now the ones teaching and training new Agonethetai...

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 		Re: [RING][ARTIFACT] Chapter 3 (@ Stockholm, Sweden)
Re: building labyrinths
Gerri wrote:
I wonder if we'll actually be taught or have to build a labyrinth tho. Very Happy

Based on part 4 of the Codex, I'd say so.
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Gerri wrote:
It's starting to sound more and more like we (the players) are intended to be the new Agonethetai/ ring leaders: "on all continents"; "build and secure a network of Omphaloi"...

So it looks like in future we'll be looking at "athletic synchronisation" and a "theory" of multiple universes. I wonder if we'll actually be taught or have to build a labyrinth tho. Very Happy


I agree with you. I don't know what athletic synchronization is, but I think it will be necessary to build labyrinths.

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 		Re: [RING][ARTIFACT] Chapter 3 (@ Stockholm, Sweden)
Re: athletic synchronization
jasper wrote:
I don't know what athletic synchronization is, but I think it will be necessary to build labyrinths.

SPEC: athletic synchronization refers to multiple athletes -- say, six -- running labyrinths in different locations * at the same time.


* Possibly even on different worlds?
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 		There's a theory going on in Ariadne's forum, that the labyrinths aren't actual mazes, per se, but the trail we're following around the world from Omphalois to artifacts...Here's a quote from a player named oneijac:

An interesting thing I found is that "Ariadne's thread" also refers to a way to solve problems such as a labyrinth or a puzzle. It is the particular method used that is able to follow completely through to trace steps or take point by point a series of found truths in a contingent, ordered search that reaches a desired end position.

The omphalos were used in ancient greece as a sort of map or GPS. Of particular intrest is the fact that one omphalos of an important location is the exact same distance away from another omphalos of equal importance (referenced in eli's podcast about the omphalos) and that the omphalos directional drawing looks like a ring.

Here's my theory. The lost ring is a place. All the clues reference navigation. The six have to use the omphelas code to follow the "thread" from one important spot to the other, picking up the peices of the codex. The olympic chart (ex: 1924.INF= VIII Paris OMPH Strength 5.5%...etc) I think the city is where an omphalos or important spot is and the city ofter that is where the next path leads. "strength" refers to positive "false" is ...well...a dead end. basically......it's a maze. the dots on the secret site are cities. Travel from city to city using the omphelas code and the "ariadne thread" algorithm and it will lead you to the lost ring...hopefully I kind of like this idea...the globe as the site for a labyrinth.

I think we should get the forum people into unfiction, because there's a lot of information and lots of theories being tossed around, and many people with questions that have already been answered here. I hate them being so out of the loop. For example, I'm pretty sure the IM's Ariadne just had with unfiction folks haven't been mentioned in the forum, so nobody knows about the personality test...

Anyway, I'll post something in the forum, to remind people to check here for more information.

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 		brilliant!

Wouldn't it be cool if there was one big labyrinth superimposed over the whole globe?

I suppose in a way that's what's happening already...

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 		Okay, I'm apparently more of a techno-dunce than I thought I was. I've registered in Ariadne's forum, but I haven't been able to post a new topic. Can someone less technically challenged tell me how to post?

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Elizabeth123 wrote:
Okay, I'm apparently more of a techno-dunce than I thought I was. I've registered in Ariadne's forum, but I haven't been able to post a new topic. Can someone less technically challenged tell me how to post?


I had the same problem. It turned out I kept getting logged out...even though I hadn't closed the window. Have you checked that you are still logged in?

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CTVeritas wrote:
Elizabeth123 wrote:
Okay, I'm apparently more of a techno-dunce than I thought I was. I've registered in Ariadne's forum, but I haven't been able to post a new topic. Can someone less technically challenged tell me how to post?


I had the same problem. It turned out I kept getting logged out...even though I hadn't closed the window. Have you checked that you are still logged in?
Hmm...Yes, you're right, thanks. It lets me in after I enter my password, but doesn't register that I've logged in.

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Elizabeth123 wrote:
CTVeritas wrote:
Elizabeth123 wrote:
Okay, I'm apparently more of a techno-dunce than I thought I was. I've registered in Ariadne's forum, but I haven't been able to post a new topic. Can someone less technically challenged tell me how to post?


I had the same problem. It turned out I kept getting logged out...even though I hadn't closed the window. Have you checked that you are still logged in?
Hmm...Yes, you're right, thanks. It lets me in after I enter my password, but doesn't register that I've logged in.


I had the same problem, was on Safari, changed to Camino (Firefox) and it worked.

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