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Elizabeth123
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Joined: 15 Mar 2008 Posts: 285
Aw man. I was getting all excited and everything. NVM...
Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 3:26 pm
Elizabeth123
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Joined: 15 Mar 2008 Posts: 285
But wait! From the wiki I got a translation of Larissa's video:
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4 years ago she knew a girl exactly like Ariadne, she also said that 4 years ago this girs was found in a labyrinth and she looked exactly like Ariadne, but at that time she was known as Renata.
Take a look at Renata's photo...It's not a great photo, but take a look again. Could she be the same girl as Ariadne?? How could we have missed this? Or am I just being stupid?
Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 3:38 pm
myf
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Joined: 30 Dec 2005 Posts: 917 Location: Hiding from squirrels
I must confess that it doesn't look like the same person to me
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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 3:53 pm
Elizabeth123
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Joined: 15 Mar 2008 Posts: 285
Yeah, I know. It doesn't quite...I was just thinking maybe it was a bad photo (and Ariadne got a suntan.) It's just the translation of Larissa's video that got me...Maybe the translation's slightly off, and she didn't mean to say Renata and Ariadne looked exactly alike.
Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 4:12 pm
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Ranger D
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Joined: 24 Aug 2004 Posts: 522 Location: Nor Cal
aliendial wrote:
JamesSF - yes, Ariadne's assignment of the wave form issue makes clear that the website address is NOT what we are looking for. There's something else beyond the simple translation of the flowcharts into binary.
rangerd (and others) before we get too far down this path, what is your basis for treating the omphagraph as the wave forms puzzle referred to by ariadne?
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Sofia, your strength can help us understand the ancient "wave forms".
Eli Hunt found some very strange notes in an old copy of Ancient Wisdom and New Atlantis. We know the notes helped him find the secret "omphaputer". But what do these notes really mean?
What do the "wave forms" do, or stand for? And what does the New Atlantis have to do with it?
Help us solve this strange puzzle!
My assumption was that since Eli's waveform notes speak to the many-worlds interpretation, and the equation in graph mode is part of the math behind it, the two are related somehow.
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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 5:11 pm
jasper
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Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 560 Location: Texas
I was wondering about Renata being "exactly like Ariadne" too. But I'd guessed it meant exactly in terms of their situations, because otherwise Larissa would have said something like "I know you. You are Renata," or at the very least have said she thought Ariadne was the same person instead of saying she was like the person known as Renata.
I think our 6 athletes may be from separate worlds, but the same timeline, because the numbering of the Olympiads is consistent with our numbering if our games were continuous from the time of ancient Greek games.
Also, I don't think we're talking about a different planet as such. The earth is completely familiar to them. It's just a different um. . . reality.
Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 6:30 pm
Isaac Dodgson
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Joined: 18 Mar 2008 Posts: 85 Location: New Hampshire - USA
Listen...this is gonna sound insane, however it is related to this.
When I was younger (and still a bit every now and then) I used to do some text based RPGing. My main character (Sean Isaac Kashaku) was a crazy old hermit/scientist who came up with this thing he called "Quantum Reality Theory". Taking the idea of many worlds, he instead related it to different realities all existing simultaneously. For every instance there were at least two choices, sometimes more and from each a existence a reality was formed, easily demonstrated using yes and no's, from each answer spawned a new choice and from each of those another so on and so forth creating several paths along the way. The idea he had was what if it were possible to jump from say instance number 5A to 3B?, or even replace it, a concept he called "Quantum Reality Phasing" or QRP.
I wish i had a diagram, I just might make one.
Jasper you reminded me when you suggested reality, and it makes more sense to me. Perhaps our athletes are not from different worlds but rather from a different path and therefore different reality. After all they all speak different Earth languages and are familiar with somethings here.
Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 8:05 pm
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Rogi Ocnorb
I Have 100 Cats and Smell of Wee
Joined: 01 Sep 2005 Posts: 4266 Location: Where the cheese is free.
I haven't taken any tests, yet (Just not a "joiner", I guess).
But, I was playing around with the Lunglei ring and ended up generating this as an example for something I was doing in GPS Visualizer.
It has nothing to do with cats, their lives or states of being. But it does have a kinda familiar look.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled task.
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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 10:05 pm
aliendial
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Joined: 29 Sep 2002 Posts: 3438 Location: Far Far Away. Nowhere Near You. Really.
rogi you don't have to login or even join to take the test. And we have to believe you when you report the results. Go for it!
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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 12:45 am
Isaac Dodgson
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Joined: 18 Mar 2008 Posts: 85 Location: New Hampshire - USA
Rogi Ocnorb wrote:
I haven't taken any tests, yet (Just not a "joiner", I guess).
But, I was playing around with the Lunglei ring and ended up generating this as an example for something I was doing in GPS Visualizer.
It has nothing to do with cats, their lives or states of being. But it does have a kinda familiar look.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled task.
At the risk of sounding like a moron...oooooh pretty colors
But really, how and what did you do? I mean it's a wave it fits and looks like a good find...but what is it exactly for us simpletons...ok for people like me out there
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 1:01 am
Rogi Ocnorb
I Have 100 Cats and Smell of Wee
Joined: 01 Sep 2005 Posts: 4266 Location: Where the cheese is free.
If you try to draw a circle on a projection map and one of the poles is contained within the circle, it comes out looking more like a waveform.
The map I linked to was a representation of the Lunglei circle and some more added at 200 kilometer additional radii.
I was working on another version of an omphali map and wondered whether the waveform for the Lunglei circle would look like the omphaputer graph if I added some additional radii. The colors were assigned by the GPS Visualizer site.
This is the map I was working on at the time:
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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 1:53 am
rupaZero
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Joined: 20 Mar 2008 Posts: 13 Location: Cambridge
Schroedinger and the graph Maybe I skimmed over it, but it seems like nobody mentioned this yet, so...
I passed the graph to my physicist boyfriend. The says that the formula is Schrodinger's equation. This links the graph quite smoothly to the numbers that make up the ip address.
On the graph itself, he said, and I quote:
Quote:
The graph looks like the radial potential of some quantum system, possibly an electron around an atom, though not sure
No idea myself what this means for us, but does it have to do with what Rogi Ocnorb is saying? I don't understand that either you see, and they both involve circles and graphs.
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 1:55 pm
rupaZero
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Joined: 20 Mar 2008 Posts: 13 Location: Cambridge
Update from physicist boyfriend...
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Forget what I said about the graph. Vertical axis is labeled lamda - notes wavelength. Horizontal axis not labeled, but seem quite clear it is year. So...emission from some source? The wavelength is unbelievably high... looks like very low frequenvy radio waves unless its inverse, in which case it is in the X-ray region. Looks like some anomaly happened in the year 1815.
We're now sat chatting about what could have happened in 1815, but we haven't made any headway.
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 2:09 pm
Shad0
I Have No Life
Joined: 20 Jun 2004 Posts: 2180 Location: Southern California, USA
Re: Schroedinger and the graph Re: IP address
rupaZero wrote:
he says that the formula is Schrodinger's equation. This links the graph quite smoothly to the numbers that make up the ip address.
How?
(Forgive me if I'm soliciting trout -- I know that we already knew it was Schroedinger's equation, but I don't remember anything linking the graph to the IP address.)
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Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 2:30 pm
bux
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Joined: 20 Mar 2008 Posts: 9
Let's get back on track... Our mission is to figure out what the waveforms are - the "waveforms" being those from the notes in Francis Bacon's book on Atlantis and NOT those displayed when you enter the command "RUN GRAPH" on the omphaputer. Except for references to quantum mechanics (of which we have come across several in this game) there seems to be no apparent connection between the two (correct me if I'm wrong).
Basically, these waveforms consist of a number of states defined by one are more binary (yes/no) values that branch and collapse into new states .
So what do they mean?
While the vocabulary suggests that the waveforms could be related to quantum mechanics somehow, I can't help but think of cellular automation whenever I look at them (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_automaton ).
I wonder if the "waveforms" could be governed by a set rules for state transitions that - given a certain initial state - would produce some meaningful pattern (say, a labyrinth for example)?
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 2:45 pm
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