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[Counslr200]

I'm a newbie to this ARG stuff, but I couldn't help but be immersed in this once I started looking at it.

Does anyone know anything about "wave function collapse?"

From what I've read on wiki, it can "correspond to the receipt of new information."

I couldn't help but look at the graph and think that the whole thing "collapsed" in 1815.

Could this result from a new discovery in quantum physics in 1815 resulting in a "collapse?"

I may be totally off the wall on this as I got a D in physics in college, but in 1815 was there any discoveries or assumptions that changed in physics to cause a different set of assumptions?

I also noted that 1815 was the end of the first Kondratieff Wave upswing (1780-1815), whatever that means.

[brodie]

Hey, this may be a silly question and a redundant one, but...

What question are we asking to get the responses 'yes' and 'no' in the waveforms?



Also. In the graph? 1x10^11 = radio wave frequencies. And also waveforms? Can - apparently - convert to sound waves. Anyone thinking along the lines that deciphering the waveforms may give us the ability to communicate between 'worlds'?

[Media-Wolf]

Hey,

Brodie I think you've got the right idea here's my thoughts and issues with it though. (of course I could be blowing smoke here)
Any type of waveform could be used to generate a sound, however from what I've seen of this puzzle so far (very little I'm planning on catching up on the weekend) we don't have near enough information to generate a wave of sufficient complexity in order to create a noise.
For example an extremly tinny sounding recording would be about 8kbs that's 8x8x1000 binary digits per full second of audio and as i mentioned it would be distorted.
My other issue is that currently we don't have a wave form we have a "tree structured chart" (for lack of a btter term). My back ground is A/V so as soon as i get a chance (friday or saturday) I'm going to try a few things. I'm thinking that the audio path could be possible if we use one wave to modulate the other and essentialy stack them to get a fifth more complexe wave.
Also want to look into frequency modulation and amplitude modulation,however first need to actually get a real "wave form".
I'm thinking that if the trees each point to a different wave on the Omphi-puter then those are the actual wave's we should be using to crack this.(yet again this is just going by what I've read on here so far though)
Waves can display a whole load of data, audio, video, electricity, movement any form of plottable chart really.
Lastly, I might be being a bit naive, but the reason I think the audio or (really inprobable) video route looks so good is that they've refered to it as a "wave form". Every broadcasting facality has a device called "wave form" monitor because of the number of signals that we use. I'm un-aware of other sectors refuring to a "wave form". More commonly you'd just call it a graph, chart or maybe just a "wave".

Let me know your thoughts on this!

[DavFlamerock]

I think Brodie wasn't saying "this IS a message from another world" but rather "this is how messages are transferred, through omphaputers like this one."

I figure what we've got is ambient waves that are escaping through. Obviously if we were to receive a message it'd be huge. And long. And I don't want to think about trying to decode that.

[Chid12]

Chapters 12 and 14 really help to explain the graph. Hopefully Chapter 13 will explain it even further.

It looks like the number of the y-axis is the number of universes/worlds. Worlds are created whenever a decision of some sort is made, and are destroyed by a Quick Continental Change (QCC), when the continents re-arrange themselves rapidly (ie the tectonic plates shift and earthquakes/volcanoes occur as a result). Since there is an upper limit of world (I'm guessing around 100 billion based on the scale of the y-axis), there is a massive QCC whenever that number is approached.

But that would imply that there was a massive earthquake in 1815, but there wasn't. Or at least, no more massive than would be expected. Bigger earthquakes have happened since.

I still can't understand why the graph keeps changing and the lines change colour. Surely everything that's happened before 2008 would stay the same, whatever happened afterwards?

[brodie]

So that would mean, on the graph, that being near the top is bad - too many worlds in the multiverse and an ultimate collapse is near - and near the bottom is good. That would definitely explain 1815, the earthquake eruption of Mt. Tambora, in the case of the QCC. But in the long haul, QCCs kill people, and it's easier - or healthier - to synchronise worlds.

Hey! That's what the visions are about! Micha's (and Diego's?) visions about terrible things! If the worlds aren't synchrohnised and kept in balance so that the ultimate collapse isn't reached, then a QCC occurs - Micha's (and Diego's) world disasters!

PS. The graph is doing funny business again at 2008. Check it out.



From the looks of it, they all swoosh back and down a bit before dropping - except for blue, which goes up before dropping. Wish we knew what the colours represented. Maybe the different types of worlds? Definitely looks like there's six from this screenshot. How are we supposed to know which one's which, though?

[VictorSueiro]

I think that there is a reference to the sacred wave form #2 in chapter

[Elizabeth123]

Ariadne recently added figuring out the meaning of the RUN GRAPH screen as a Sofia task:

[brodie]

Yay! I was already working on this. Totes predicted it'd be one of Sofia's tasks.

[Counslr200]

It's been reported that the graph started moving backwards after proceeding along and then collapsed.

Why doesn't the bar drag past 2008? Afterall, we're a third of the way into 2008. So is the end of graph 1/1/2008 and the graph reaches 1/1/08 and then moves back into 2007 and then collapses? Or is the collapse in current time.

It's interesting to note that currently, at the extreme right side of the graph, there are 2 points for each colored line due to the graph moving backwards.

That did not appear to be the case in late 1814.

Could the dual points mean there are currently 2 different sets of realities or universes?

[Elizabeth123]

Oy...My brain is hurting. No idea what's going on with the shift backwards to make 2 points for each line.

You know, it may be that whatever happenied in 1814-1815 happened in other worlds, which then collapsed into our own world, so we wouldn't have noticed anything going on. It's not very logical from a Meta perspective (why wouldn't the PM's link it to something we could find out about?) but maybe it's because there haven't been any super-huge land shifts in several thousands of years, and they didn't want to extend the graph that far.

Here's a summary Dante put onto the forum:

[danteIL]

[thebruce]

here's something I don't think anybody's caught or mentioned - the 6 colours appear to match up with the 6 FTLR sites...

red - markus
orange - larissa
purple - meihui
light blue - noriko
dark blue - ariadne
green - diego

grey could either be a function of the 6 lines, or maybe it could be "Theo"

[brodie]

[thebruce]

correction: rather than representing agonothetai, or bloggers, perhaps the strengths - each of the bloggers are associated with a strength, maybe this helps us associate a colour with each strength.

grey/white, same thing