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[RING][MISSIONS] Sofia - Monica's Postcard
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 		Re: Jorge's Tattoo
D72W wrote:
UPDATE:

Monica just responded to Riquardos email about Jorge's Tattoo.

She confirmed that it was indeed on his RIGHT arm (although her drawings were different)

Sooooo we still need to identify the LEFT arm and the meanings for both...


Coming back to this, as I'm updating the wiki and realized that we are missing alot of Monica email communication.

I'm trying to find Riquardos email or the actual response. Do you have a link to these so I can get the actual wording on both sides? If not Riquardo's side, then at least Monica's answer.
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 		D72W had PMed me to see if I could ask Monica about the arm thing, so that was never posted on any thread, I suppose. Here's what I wrote her on 2008/3/23:

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Hola Mónica, feliz semana santa! Estoy escribiendo a usted debido a una duda que tengo. En el dibujo en el reverso de la postal, que tiene el 595, el tridente, y luego el 20 que Jorge tenía en su brazo izquierdo, ¿sabe usted si tuviera la misma cosa, sino el reverso (como espejo) en el otro brazo? Muchas gracias!

riquardo

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Hola riquardo,

¡Muchas gracias!

Recuerdo que cuando mi tío abuelo contaba su historia y llegaba a la parte del tatuaje, se señalaba el brazo derecho... así que supongo que Jorge debería tener el tatuaje en ese brazo.

Por cierto, ¿has visto el test sobre las fuerzas ancestrales de cada persona? creo que va a ser una muy buena manera de organizarnos Smile
¡A mi me ha salido Sophrosune!

Un saludo,
Mónica




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Hi Monica, happy holy week! I'm writing you because of a doubt I have. In the drawing in the back of the postcard, the one with the 595, trident, and then the 20 that Jorge had on his left arm, do you know if he had the same thing, but in reverse (like mirror) in the other arm? Thank you very much,

riquardo

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Hi riquardo,

Many thanks!

I remember when my uncle-grandfather (/grandfather's brother) told his story and got to the tattoo part, he signed (pointed to?) the right arm... so I guess Jorge should had the tattoo on that arm.

I'm sure you saw the test about the ancient strenghs that everyone has? I believe it will be a good way for us to organize. Me, I'm a Sophrosune!

Regards,
Mónica


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 		Does the discussion of the multiverse coordinates remain here?
AUZ505 wrote:
[SPEC] This makes only sense if it is necessary to run the labyrinth in all places:
- World 1: x (D4 in W1) , y (E5 in W1) and z (I7 in W1)
- World 2: x (C3 in W2) , y (D4 in W2) and z (H6 in W2)
- World 3: x (F9 in W3), y (H10 in W3) and z (D4 in W3)

I totally agree with you, AUZ505. So how should we understand the following?
Ch.10 wrote:
Therefore, in order to coordinate with the maximum number of possible worlds, a single world will often cause a simultaneous labyrinth to take place in six varied places, each mapping to a practicable place in an at least one ring of other worlds.

In addition,
AUZ505 wrote:
But then why is x and D4 the "special place" all is linked with?

I also wonder why. It's very strange.

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 		Re: [RING][MISSIONS] Sofia - Monica's Postcard
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brodie wrote:
With the discovery of this new postcard, and the explanation of the co-ordinates, I'm thinking...

That the five other co-ordinates? Are the location of Warren and Madrid in the other worlds.

Forget the other place names.

When you look at chapter 10, PARALLEL GEOGRAPHY, it shows that the location of Paris on Gaea is N48 o 44'00''. On Pangaea, it is different. On Pangaea, it is 55 o 45'N , 37 o 36'E. Naturally, this co-ordinate would map to a different place on our world.

This means that on the other four world-types (Nuna, Pangaea Ultima, Kenorland and Gondwana), Paris' location would be different again - giving us four more co-ordinates.

SO.

That means that when the postcard said 'We are here', that is where we are in Gaea - ie. Madrid/Warren. When it said 'and here', it referred to where we are in the other world-types - ie. Madrid/Warren in other worlds.

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brodie solved the first Sofia mission!

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 		Cool! Way to go brodie!

So, do we need more postcards?

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 		That's what we are talking the last few days. But still I do not see how this helps. See my post a few messages before.

Or did I missed something in Brodie's explanation?

EDIT: From where are those quotes? Can't find it on Ariadnes Forum.

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AUZ505 wrote:
That's what we are talking the last few days. But still I do not see how this helps. See my post a few messages before.

Or did I missed something in Brodie's explanation?

EDIT: From where are those quotes? Can't find it on Ariadnes Forum.


She twittered it..., but the thread is one of the ones at the very top, where I posted her tweet. She didn't post in the forum directly herself.
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 		Hi guys! *waves*

Remember my theory? On the previous page?

I sent it to Ariadne, and this morning, she replied and said that I solved it! So we don't have to worry about how the locations link together.

We also don't have to worry about finding a way to map the continents on top of each other (which is good, because I tried it and went crazy). She's going to talk to Kai about getting a proper tool organised.

THREE CHEERS FOR TEAM SOFIA (I couldn't have done it without you guys)!
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 		Then, what does this mean?
Ch.10 wrote:
The urban labyrinth of one world possibly will be situated in the middle of your ocean,

Does this mean altitude changes of the same villiage/city in different world-types?

brodie, I wrote the previous reply remembering your theory.

EDIT: Mentioning continents like Atlantis? But the context of Ch.10 is about the coordinates.

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 		EDITED POST.
I didnt understand a previous post Razz
GREAT JOB BRODIE!

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AUZ505 wrote:
Ok I tried to make a simple example, which hopefully helps in discussion.
There are three worlds. World 2 is just as World 1 only a little bit moved (one up and one left). In world three the continents are really deformed. All worlds have the three cities x,y,z

What is still not clear for me. If a synchronizing event has to be done on three "equal" places, what does this mean?:

A) using the same "city". For example x
Then we would have the following places for the labyrinth:
- World 1: x (D4 in W1)
- World 2: x (C3 in W2)
- World 3: x (F9 in W3)

In this case one could simply say to all people in the three worlds "Go to x and run a labyrinth"

B) using the same place. For example the red square at D4
Then we would have labyrinths in the following cities:
- World 1: x (D4 in W1)
- World 2: y (D4 in W2)
- World 3: z (D4 in W3)

In this case one could simply say to all people in the three worlds "Go to D4 and run a labyrinth"

So I wonder why it is necessary to calculate the coordinates of y and z in the W1 world (our world). Because the postcasr in the example would read:
We are here D4
and here E5
and here I7

[SPEC] This makes only sense if it is necessary to run the labyrinth in all places:
- World 1: x (D4 in W1) , y (E5 in W1) and z (I7 in W1)
- World 2: x (C3 in W2) , y (D4 in W2) and z (H6 in W2)
- World 3: x (F9 in W3), y (H10 in W3) and z (D4 in W3)

But then why is x and D4 the "special place" all is linked with?


Good work, everybody Smile
I have still some open questions:

Interpreting Brodies correct answer means that my choice A) is the correct solution. So is it a coincident that on our world on those coordinates where"the other Warrens is" only big cities are? And do those other cities on our earth have some meaning for the lost game?

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AUZ505 wrote:
So is it a coincident that on our world on those coordinates where"the other Warrens is" only big cities are?


I don't think it's a coincidence. I think the sites are specifically picked because they correspond to places in our world. I mean, Warren, Ohio? No offence, but there are tons more cities in the world that have more Olympic significance than Warren, Ohio.

What I want to know is how Rahkee did it all. How he/she? figured it out; about the parallel worlds and the co-ordinates and everything. It couldn't have been easy, that's for sure.

AUZ505 wrote:
And do those other cities on our earth have some meaning for the lost game?


Who knows, yet? Madrid, London, Boston, Rio de Janeiro, Toronto and Copenhagen; Warren, Munich, Toulouse, Oran, Madison and Brasilia.

Out of those, London and Munich have hosted Olympic Games. Warren, Oran and Madison (and perhaps Toulouse, depending who you talk to) are all pretty obscure. Rio de Janeiro, Toronto, Madrid and Brasilia have all placed past and future bids for the Olympics. Copenhagen is the seat of the IOC in 2009, and they'll be deciding who wins 2016, but Copenhagen hasn't placed a bid itself, ever. Here's the wiki for the Olympic bids, in case someone wants to check it out further.

Here's something interesting. Ariock made a map while we were chatting in IRC today, plotting all of the cities then matching each pair of co-ordinates (first co-ordinates on each postcard, then the second, then the third etc.). Check it out here. It's really interesting to see how they match up. There's no doubt we'll eventually find out.

I wonder if there's a third postcard floating around somewhere...
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 		Do you have any hints to understand the following?
Ch.10 wrote:
Therefore, in order to coordinate with the maximum number of possible worlds, a single world will often cause a simultaneous labyrinth to take place in six varied places, each mapping to a practicable place in an at least one ring of other worlds.

Does this mean "six places in each world"?

brodie wrote:
Check it out here. It's really interesting to see how they match up.

Yes, very interesting. This means the coordinates of Warren in World 4 is similar to the coordinates of Madrid in World 1, for example. But in none of the six worlds Warren and Madrid overlap to each other, I think. In order to make that sense, isn't any common coordinate system required?

Victor, I want to understand your reply, but Babelfish translation is not enough for me.

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 		Sorry for having edited the above reply several times.

What I think AUZ505 wanted to say is, there are two methods to link different worlds, linking the same cities and linking the same coordinates, and in the context both methods appear to be meaningful.

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unagi wrote:
Do you have any hints to understand the following?
Ch.10 wrote:
Therefore, in order to coordinate with the maximum number of possible worlds, a single world will often cause a simultaneous labyrinth to take place in six varied places, each mapping to a practicable place in an at least one ring of other worlds.

Does this mean "six places in each world"?


I took this to mean six places in one world, to ensure that at least one of those places will line up with coordinates in a labyrinth-able spot in all the other worlds.

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