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[RING][MISSIONS] Sofia - Monica's Postcard
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VictorSueiro
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Some days ago, i posted an xls with the something like the Brodie hipotesis (The 6 cities are the sample place in different worlds.). Sorry if i'm not understanding well the Brodie solution, this is not my language Razz

http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=24845&start=75

Maybe this xls is usefull.
If you put the Madrid coordinates in world 1, the table order the other world coordinates with the postcard coordinates. This could be usefull to locate near points between the known ones. But, i think that there is not a transformation equation like

X2 = X1 + A
X3 = X1 + B
(...)

It cannot be a "lineal" transformation.

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VictorSueiro wrote:
Maybe this xls is usefull.


Thank you, Victor, I understood how to use your xls file.
Although it's not linear, movement of a continent on the sphere surface can be defined by a 3x3 rotation matrix, but we have to define one matrix for each land segment.

Thanks to Ariock's file, we can tell Europe and North America is close in worlds other than 1 and 4. So World 4 might be Kenorland.

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hm. well at first it sounded like with 6 locations here, running all 6 had a better chance of synchronizing with another world.

But now it sounds like each of the cordinates lines up with the same location in each world. I'm not sure how we can ensure that there are runners who are running the locations in each of the other worlds at the same time. So if it's up to us, then we have to do our part to synchronize with the other worlds - So what I'm thinking is that if the initial "we are here" is to represent a place in our world where a labyrinth must be run, then the other locations must be run at the same time in order to synchronize with each of the worlds those coordinates represents. Effectively, by running a labyrinth in coordinate #2, we are connecting Warren (eg) here with Warren in #2's world. By running coordinate #3, we are connecting with Warren with world #3's Warren, and so on.

Connect all 6 - run each coordinate at the same time, and we are 'hooking' each coordinate with the same city in each of the six worlds, thus effectively 'pulling' our world closer to each of the others.


I kind of picture the coordinates as anchors. We run the same city at the locations on our world they would be in each of the other worlds, and we reel ourselves closer to them.

Now, having more than one postcard by this theory either means that
A) the more sets of 6 labyrinths we run, the stronger and tighter the synchronization will be, or
B) they are intended as guides to help us understand the process, the theory behind this pan-cosmology, and we'll eventually get a specific city that we need to locate in each world, and their equivalent locations in our world, so that we can run the 6 labyrinths, at each location, and synchronize our world with the others.

The main thing is that we can't control (at east it seems this way so far) what the people do in other worlds, so it's entirely up to us to re-synchronize our world with theirs. So somehow running at least 6 labyrinths is a way of 'reeling' us in to them, the connection being that the coordinates here tie directly to the same city on each world. We need that city. (or them, if there are to be more than one).



** Oh hey, perhaps we'll need to find the coordinates of Beijing on each of the worlds so that we can run 5 other labyrinths around the world at the same time and "save the world" on August 24th?

oooo... 5 rings... Beijing plus 5 other worlds... maybe satellite feeds of each of the athletes in 5 other cities around the world, running the labyrinth at the same time as, maybe Ariadne in Beijing... synchronizing and uniting the world(s)!
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thebruce wrote:
oooo... 5 rings... Beijing plus 5 other worlds... maybe satellite feeds of each of the athletes in 5 other cities around the world, running the labyrinth at the same time as, maybe Ariadne in Beijing... synchronizing and uniting the world(s)!


Well, I'm pretty sure that ALL the athletes will be in Beijing on the 24th. [META] I saw several job posts written by JM for multilingual, tech-savvy "actors/writers," including speakers of Japanese, Chinese, French, etc., who would need to be available to travel to Beijing in August. I also found out how much our agons are making for participating. (Not very much!)

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yow! META-ALERT Razz



so ok, perhaps they'll run the labyrinth there and we'll run the labyrinths at 5 other places... who knows. I don't. I'm just spec'ing Wink
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thebruce wrote:
yow! META-ALERT Razz


Yeah, I went back and red-bolded the meta tag, to make sure it's incredibly obvious that the rest of my post should be completely ignored, Razz since I found myself ridiculously bummed to see the job postings.

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Thank you Elizabeth and thebruce. I agree with most of thebruce's explanation.

By the way, I think we can share latitudes and longitudes with other worlds. The North and South Poles are defined by using the Earth rotation axis, and the Prime Meridian can be defined so as to be crossed by the sun at the same time as Greenwich in our world. Then, the same coordinates point the same position in the solar system, so I think they may be as important as parallel geographics in synchronization.

EDIT: I didn't see anything! It's true! Smile

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As long as we're talking about synchronizing here, another thought came into my head last night.

While we know the size and dimensions of the labyrinths, we can ensure they are built the same way across all worlds. However, a key ingredient is missing... that is the orientation of the mouth of the labyrinth. Without knowing which way to orient it, the labyrinths won't line up in synch, because the runners won't be following the same path. .... if in fact the calibration is detailed and significant.

Would certainly be handy to have a GPS coordinate along with an Omphalos style bearing, so that you would know which way to turn it.
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I just wondered how we should define the orientation. Should it be relative to the continent?
For example, a park in Warren World 1 which is oriented south might be oriented west in Warren World 2.

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Yep, that's what I thought.
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unagi wrote:
I just wondered how we should define the orientation. Should it be relative to the continent?
For example, a park in Warren World 1 which is oriented south might be oriented west in Warren World 2.


That'll make things nice and difficult.. because although the stars aren't moved in the alternate earth skys (hopefully not), you're right that the heading from the orientation of the city TOWARDS that star is going to be different.. means you'll need a different orientation for each world to ensure that they all wind up facing the same way...

My head is already hurting...
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Am I missing something? If direction is important, I'd think synchronizing would mean synchronizing with the earth's poles or magnetic fields, not with the entrance to a park, or shape of a continent. Why can't we, along with communicating locations, also communicate the direction the labyrinths would face? Use a compass and make the entrances all face due north or something? It should be easy enough, and I'd assume if that's necessary, we'll get further guidance.

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