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[RING][MISSIONS] Sofia - Monica's Postcard
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 		Boston - interesting choice. A large gathering of ARG players will be in Boston over a weekend in July.....coincidence????
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Boston - interesting choice. A large gathering of ARG players will be in Boston over a weekend in July.....coincidence????


Wait...what? where did you read/hear/see that?

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Lysithea wrote:
Chid12 wrote:
I think I might have worked out what the co-ordinates mean.

In Chapter 4, the old six stated:

"A synchronizing labyrinth must be created at a special, predetermined place. The worlds will agree about a specific set of coordinates - longitude and latitude - for the center of the labyrinth. You must center your labyrinth at these chosen coordinates, or the synchronization will fail."
Interesting. Smile I had jumped to the conclusion that there would be just one synchronising labryinth in our reality, and that the other synchronising labyrinths would be created on other worlds/parallel universes/alternate earths.


Yeah, I had the same impression, because "labyrinth" was singular in the Chapter 4 text. That sounds to melike we only create one labyrinth per world (e.g. one in our Boston, and another one in a parallel-universe-Boston, another in yet-another-parallel-universe Boston, etc.)

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I'm back! Finally. Moving house killed me.

Okay, so. Thinking about this, about the way that we have specific co-ordinates that connect to places inside the cities, have we tried looking at the streets surrounding the stations? Are they vaguely cyclical, as would match a labyrinth? Or, the fact that the 'centres' of what we believe to be the training labyrinths, that we've been given the co-ordinates for, are stations - that's interesting. They wouldn't have been stations back then, of course - or maybe the train stations would have been in existence? Check out the routes and the subterranean tunnels - are they labyrinthine?

Just a thought. Very Happy


Ah see now I'm not sure the labyrinths are going to look like labyrinths - made with hedges or walls or whatever. The Codex refers to "human labyrinths" and if you look at the trailers for The Lost Ring, you'll see clips where large groups of people have gathered and are holding hands in a sort of formation.

I think the labyrinths are made out of people, are literally "human" labyrinths. That would explain why the atheletes need to practice, train and compete in large cities: the labyrinths require a large number of people all together at the same time - only in large cities will this not look odd.

What if, for example, in 1920, at Clapham Common Tube Station, hundreds of people all met up together at exactly the same time and constructed a labyrinth using their bodies centred around the Tube Station? Or what if that's meant to happen this summer?

That's the theory I'm kind of working on at the moment. I'd overlooked that "labyrinth" is singular in Chapter 4. It suggests there's only one set of co-ordinates for the synchronising labyrinth... Maybe the co-ordinates refer to training labyrinths, not the final one. Or maybe the six had narrowed down the final labyrinth to six choices, and provided the co-ordinates for each.

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Chid12 wrote:
Maybe the co-ordinates refer to training labyrinths, not the final one. Or maybe the six had narrowed down the final labyrinth to six choices, and provided the co-ordinates for each.


Isn't that what chapter 4 is all about? Training labyrinths?

I think if they were trying to narrow it down to one, they'd have said

we are here
OR here

not
we are here
AND here

I think AND here, listing all six sites, refers to the fact that the training labyrinths have to be synchonised as well. They all need to be run at the same time, built on the same scale, etc.
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D72W wrote:

I have quoted the above statements because I feel they are important.

Lining up longitude and latitude with something else seems like a good clue.

If the postcard locations are "ports" I think this isnt exactly where "sport, playing, festivals and other special events take place" BUT I think the reference to "center" and "big city" are on the right track.

Just my .02 Very Happy


Right down the street from where I was is what is known as "Long Wharf" and was the center port for all the ships and commerce, since it was right down from the State House.
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brodie wrote:

Isn't that what chapter 4 is all about? Training labyrinths?

I think if they were trying to narrow it down to one, they'd have said

we are here
OR here

not
we are here
AND here

I think AND here, listing all six sites, refers to the fact that the training labyrinths have to be synchonised as well. They all need to be run at the same time, built on the same scale, etc.


I agree that the choice of "AND" indicates that something was/needs to be done at the same time.
Things to note,
-The postcard doesn't appear to have been mailed. It was simply a holding point for the coordinates.
-Monica's uncle said there was more to it, yet does that mean the other parts of the codex that we are finding or more 'postcards'
-If the postcard was meant to give Monica proof, its fairly vague just to have coordinates... something there is the 'proof'
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Weezel wrote:
-Monica's uncle said there was more to it, yet does that mean the other parts of the codex that we are finding or more 'postcards'.


Wasn't there someone who wrote on the back of a lot of postcards? That's ringing a bell in my mind... maybe Renata? Or... I don't know. Am I right, or am I making it up? :S
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brodie wrote:
Weezel wrote:
-Monica's uncle said there was more to it, yet does that mean the other parts of the codex that we are finding or more 'postcards'.


Wasn't there someone who wrote on the back of a lot of postcards? That's ringing a bell in my mind... maybe Renata? Or... I don't know. Am I right, or am I making it up? :S


Yes, Larissa said Renata wrote a bunch of numbers and things on the backs of postcards, stuff that didn't make a lot of sense to Larissa. She said she'd look around to see if she could find any, but that Renata generally kept all that stuff in a backpack that was always with her. Seems like Jorge, Renata and Marcus are all people interested in geography type stuff.

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 		Maybe we could try a little reversal engineering here. If we know Jorge "began" the journey in Madrid and then went to London... maybe anyone can come up with an omphalos code that would take him that way. If we find It, then I can go (I live in Madrid) to the coordinates (Puerta del sol), and try to look around to find those directions to london somewhere... Of course, it's difficult to find anything as this place has changed a lot since Jorge's times, but we can also think that if the clues are maintained by "something" watching us from some other dimension, the clues may be renovating themselves or something...
well, just an idea Razz

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 		jorge
Its interesting that the artifact shows a left and right arm with the same tattoo (595 trident 20 and 20 trident 595)

The writer at the time (kelly?) in the codex says they had the tattoo's on their RIGHT arm.

in both of Monica's drawing of Jorge's tattoo she draws it as 595 trident 20 which would make Jorge the LEFT arm in artifact (if Monica did not make a mistake in her drawing).

Also look at the signatures on the bottom of the first artifact. I can make out 3 names but the other 3 are not so clear. One is signed up and down on the paper instead of across and the one on the extreme left looks like it ends in y, g, or j.

That COULD be Jorge's (I know signatures are often tough to make out)

And finally why did Jorge return to Madrid? His hometown? Perhaps or was it to find another member of the group making him a "ring master" or leader?

I believe the first key is finding out how that tattoo lead him to London

ALL SPEC I know Very Happy

I have emailed Riquardo a request to send an email to Monica to verify Jorge's tattoo location.

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 		Hmmm...

Thing one, regarding postcards:

Have we identified all of the locations on the postcards received in the Trailhead? They could be important. I asked this before and got no response, so I'm asking again.

Thing two, regarding Madrid-->London:

It'd be Virgo, wheat, 14 o , but I don't know how many stadia. It's 1261km, though.

However, I don't see how this would help...?
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 		I already emailed Monica about that question, waiting now.

One thing that has been bugging me: did all the 6 (the ones with Jorge) had that tattoo on their arm? Because if so, and since they all were in different geographical points, that code can't obviously lead to a common location to all of them, or to all the 6 major cities. So does the code mean something else?

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 		I'm Sofia, so, i will focus my gaming here...
I'm waiting some Monica's replies too. She is in Holly Week Vacations right now. She told that she will go to Alfredo's home to look for more clues.

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