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[Peewie]

[RING][MISSIONS] What is the lost ring?

[Dr. Jinx]

You're not alone, but there doesn't seem to be many of us. Ideas on what the ring could be?

[Peewie]

oh fiu

i was worried that there is no other sophrosune out there ^^"
thx for anwerign

well .. i like the idea of the 5 olympic rings .. and that the lost ring has something to do with that ..
but actually the rings or the flag with the rings were introduced for the olympic games of nowadays .. and not for the ancient ones !!

the thing is .. the codex or the few pages that we have .. don't really helps us at the moment ..

it could also be, that the ring really has to do with our 6 people ..
but we HAVE the 6 people .. and there is no one missing ..

i wonder if the ring is for exampel a connection between some places .. but i think we got a quite hard mission ..
as it is said "find the lost ring" .. and if we would find it NOW .. or when we know what it is .. the whole thing would be almost finished i think !

you got any theories? or you know some others of us? cuz i think we need a lot of heads that will think about it .. and find some new aspects !!

[copperhalo]

I'd like to think that the ring is not only the last omphalos, but the entance to an underground, 3 diminsional labrynth...maybe even 4 dimensional.

Like a navel orange, only if you peel back the skin you get a 3-D version of what our heroes woke up in. Actually, it would resemble a ball of spaghetti or yarn.

[aceituna]

Hi there. I am new to this game but have spent the last week or so trying to catch up on all the info.

I also hope that this isnt' a trout, if so sorry.


I was first off curious to know if we are working in conjunction with the other sophrosunes in Ariadne's blog section. They have some interesting discussions going on. I thought perhaps we should try to work something out where we all post in one centralized location, otherwise we may be losing important opportunities to collaborate.

In terms of what I have read so far and th ring I have a few ideas, but I don't have time to continue to flesh them out now, so I figured I would post what I have.

The other blog talks a lot about a link with Atlantis. This intrigued me so I looked up some info on it. I found this site which talks about it http://www.activemind.com/Mysterious/Topics/Atlantis/index.html

I may be totally off in my line of thinking, but I do believe that we should spend some time on the Atlantis thing, specifically on the writings by Plato which you can access trhough this site. What I read of it so far ties in so well some of our clues, that it leads me to believe that we should look at it carefully. Also, and this on a totally random note, when I watched the latest video on Araidne's Blog I was struck by the idea of a Plate, but aside from its simbolism i was intrigued by the idea of Plate in spanish being Plato. in this line of thinking I looked up Plato in Esperanto which simply means the philosopher, and Plata which means flat. This again could be totally random, however there is an extremely important link between Plato and Atlantis, and between Atlantis and Airiadne. I intend to pursue this line of thought further,but as I have not the timw now I thought I shoud at least put it out there. Please tell me what you think.

PS, aslo if you notice all depicitions of atlantis show that was a city of concentric rings.

[bux]

[Triscuit]

Hi! I'm a sophrosune too.

I think we should keep looking into the Atlantis thing, like you said. Plato's Atlantis is thought by Archaeologists to be the Island of Crete, specifically when it was inhabited by the Minoans (at least this is what I'm told) . Crete has a lot of ties with the stories of Ariadne and the labyrinth as well. I'm not sure if that helps at all.

I'm also curious about Delphi, as I've heard it referred to as the "navel" of the earth. It's also featured in the trailers.

Do either of these places have to do with the ring?

[myf]

Not that I want to dampen anyone's enthusiasm about this, but there are all sorts of different theories about the what/where/when of Atlantis. Various locations suggested, with varying degrees of sense and evidence, include Crete, Cyprus, Cuba, Ireland, Santorini, Nigeria, Mongolia, Greenland, Puerto Rico, and all sorts of other places.

[Meta]Of course, I'm sure there's some bits of theory that could be nicely commandeered for the Lost Ring thing and fit perfectly, but there's also loads of twaddle out there about Atlantis too[/meta]

[Triscuit]

[aceituna]

I am in perfect agreement about all the "twaddle" out there. I should apologize about the hastiness of my earlier post, and make myself a bit more clear.

That the clues we have been given lead us to some sort of atlantis/crete is i think undeniable:

We have the figure of the snake goddess, which is a recognized piece of Minoan art. The minoans being the civilization of Crete.

The book "New Atlantis" by Francis Bacon

The name "Ariadne" connected to king Minos/Minoans/Crete
(Knossos the main palace of Crete is noted for its "labrynthine" layout)

In relation to the above we should be reminded that Minoan art contains numerous depictions of a "bull Jumping" sport, and it is supposedly during such an occasion when Ariadne sees and falls in love with Theseus and subsequently chooses to help him.


According to Plato's dialogues Atlantis was indeed composed of concentric rings. 3 moats divided by rings of land of the same width.

We also know that Poseidon, the "earth shaker" was the patron deity of Plato's Atlantis.

The question is however what does this have to do with the Ring? How do these references help us? I obviously don't have an answer simply some ideas.

First off I think we should not lose sight that Eli Hunt says the note he found in the snake goddess statue speaks of "preparing the ring", not finding it. This was already suggested in the other Sophrosune forum and I agree with it. I think we are not meant to literally find an item, (although maybe) but rather "finding" it refers to rediscovering the way to "prepare the ring". Even Ariadne puts the word "find" in quotation marks on her blog. I think, and this is simply conjecture of course, that rather than thinking literally in terms of say Atlantis and a Ring we need to think more metaphorically. That references are being made to at least one of the alleged locations of Atlantis is obvious, so let us think about what Atlantis stands for. What conclusions can we draw from the ideology surrounding it. Maybe this is what will help us define what the ring is, and what it is meant to do. I guess this is why it occurred to me that we should reference Plato. Some say that Atlantis was just a legend that Plato came up with to describe a political ideology. Maybe that's the sort of connection we should be making. I don't know. I'm sorry for the length of the post which basically says not much, but I just thought i should not keep these musings to myself since we should be trying to figure this out . Thanks for being patient enough to get to the end of this long-winded bunch of nothings.
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[aceituna]

New Mission?

[Elizabeth123]

Re: New Mission?

[aceituna]

[Elizabeth123]

I think it's an excellent idea, Aceituna! IMO, the important thing is getting at least one native speaker for each of the blogs (someone reasonably fluent in English as well), to do the communicating to forum members, the agons, and uF. Ideally they'd be a Sophrosune, but I don't know that it's necessary.

We have German, Spanish, Portugese and English speakers who are active members here...So hopefully we could find a few volunteers. The more difficult blogs will be Mei Hui's and Noriko's, but we do have at least a couple of people posting here, who could take those roles. Hopefully, they'll be willing.

[Ikkarus]

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So. Does anyone else think that maybe WE are the Lost Ring? The codex keeps referring to the six different geographic versions of Earth, and mentions connecting the rings through the labyrinths, so maybe our version of Earth is the one that is lost. Lost as in disconnected from the other types. We are the version that screwed up and stopped running the labyrinths. So we are breaking the chain of synchronous worlds that keeps the multiverse from spiraling out of control and reaching the Reality Limit.

Maybe we are the Lost Ring
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