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[Omnie]

[UPDATE] Cascade Vortex [Nov 6]

[yeahyeah]

[taniwha]

Hahaha! I took a picture like this once. Put the camera on a tripod, leave the shutter open for 45 seconds, have two people stand behind trees and throw a glow stick back and forth, maybe wave it around a bit in between tosses.

[yeahyeah]

hehe.. you can see the people behind at least one tree..

especially in the www.cascadevortex.com/images/10.31.jpg photo..

[JayR]

[Worker]

[ParityBit]

I agree - the person behind the tree is very obvious, so it must be deliberate. Is there something to work out here, or are we to take this as showing that the Cascade Vortex is a little flakey? (i.e. they need to fake photos to support their case for the paranormal).

[yeahyeah]

yeah, thats what I was thinking about, if the shutter was open, then he should be at least blurred, maybe thats why they posted it, because it was so strange.. Or... (heavy random spec) could he be the mystery man beth saw? =)

[bakntime]

[WedgeGold]

DEpends

[Primal]

As far as seeing somebody behind the tree, I have to agree that it's not an oversight at all. Remember this part of the quote above?

[taniwha]

[XtRaVa]

Guys, maybe the person in the pic is just someone getting a closer look at the scene, maybe hes about to be brave enough and maybe touch that thing, while another person is taking pictures...it doesnt have to be that he didnt hide well enough when they were making the picture.

[Ahriman]

OK, [cracks knuckles] time for the photo freak to take a look. Everyone is right about the exposure - probably about 30-60 seconds at a small aperture with someone walking about holding a torch. The person behind the tree would have to have been told to stay stock still for the whole exposure to register or it was a multiple exposure (or a combination of layers in PS) - in either case, the person behind the tree is obvious by design rather than by accident. This attributes some significance to it. I personally think it's a multiple exposure - there is evidence that the person was captured by on-camera flash - look at how the foreground is lit up with light falling off according to the inverse square law - the blurred light has been layered on in PS - in fact....[boots up fast PC to use Photoshop to see if there's any EXIF data...]....Oh yeah, we have a hit. This is from the EXIF info in the full-size file on Cascade Vortex...

Kodak DX3900 Zoom Digital Camera
Orientation: Normal
Exposure time: 16 seconds
F Stop: 2.8
Exposure Program: Manual
Date time original: 2002:10:12:10:50:42
Metering mode: Average
Light Source: Unknown
Flash : Fired
Scene type: Direct Photographed image

So it wasn't layered, it was a long exposure scene with flash - the flash froze the tree guy and then the long exposure allowed them to do the light trail with a torch.

So, definitely purposeful that they captured the guy with the hand? Not necessarily - it might have been torch guy about to jump out and start waving his torch around, not sure if they'd started taking photos yet.

Two possibilities - the PMs meant for the guy with the hand to be seen for some significant reason, or they're just trying to tell us that Cascade Vortex is an amateurish bunch of fakers.

But in either case...why?

[Worker]