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[ARTIFACT] New York City
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Shad0
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Re: [ARTIFACT] New York City
Re: Under Menu

Rivanor wrote:
I checked the hanging menu boards (both behind the board itself and on the wall) by the restroom doors; no luck. The waitress kindly rummaged through the menus sitting in hanging boxes by the counter but no artifact.

The nearest "table" near the entrance is a bar so I looked around it but no menu. I even poked around the frames of the menu boards sitting on the windowsill.

From your description I have a feeling you already checked this, but just in case: In the various "menu" locations, what was located vertically beneath them? For example, was one of the menu boards hanging on a wall over a bookcase? Was there a magazine rack located below the hanging menu boxes, or outside beneath the menu boards in the windows? Presumably it's nothing that obvious, but...
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Maybe it just wasn't in place yet? the Austin artifact wasn't in place when I got there, and I might have had a similar experience if the guy hadn't gone ahead and hid the book for me.

Under a menu on a table near the door really doesn't sound at all like a place an artifact could be waiting for decades- or where it could reliably wait for an hour. Does anyone think this is telling us more about how much we can believe the codex writers or omphaputer techs?

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Thank you very much for your looking all around, Rivanor! I also thank you for your detailed explanation.

Rivanor wrote:
elite.fencer wrote:
Was there anything there about a German composition? Maybe someone German was writing an essay, or the speakers were playing music by Bach that would have CD covers with the artifact in it?


Good ideas, I did look for anything German-related but nothing stood out. The CD cover is a good thought that I'll follow up on. I'm going to try again tomorrow (I've enlisted a friend to help out), unless someone finds it in the meantime.


I think it's a textbook about how to make a sentence in German. When I was a high school student, I used a thin textbook titled "English Composition", which included a lot of short sentences, together with a textbook "English Grammar", which rather explains grammatical concepts. You can find many books after a search with the phrase "German Composition" e.g. at Amazon.

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Got it!!

Revisited Ear Inn w/ a friend and found it! Can't get the omphaputer to do the transfer but here's the link:

http://164.109.150.213/PRUVO/SS71/124P/84JH/HFGS/CEAS.PDF


Pictures and details to follow later. Happy translating!! Rock On

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Are there two pages? Only the first downloads for me. The first page shows Stonehenge, I suppose. And another map showing mostly Greece.

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jasper wrote:
The first page shows Stonehenge, I suppose.


Is it just me, or is it implying that Stonehenge is a labyrinth?

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jasper wrote:
Are there two pages? Only the first downloads for me. The first page shows Stonehenge, I suppose. And another map showing mostly Greece.


Stonehenge!? I was looking for photos of Stonehenge which match the sixth drawing of Ch.4.

I can see the second page too.

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I'm going to go update the Wiki with this.

Can someone translate the Esperanto for us?
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Chatting with Ariadne just now and she said
"oh my goodness
if we have to run a labyrinth at STONEHENGE>...
cna you imagine??"

and then
"hmmm maybe we have to do it on the other locations of stonehenge...
you know the nuna and pangea and neopangea and all that"

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Kay folks-- the first two paragraphs of the 17 chapter are transcribed, but someone has to translate it and put the pics up, sorry, as I really have to go.

Good luck all!
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OK. Here's the translation. I'm not massively happy with it: some words I just couldn't work out, and some probably aren't conjugated perfectly, but here we are:

Chapter 17

Multiversal Olympiad

We'd guess, that you wanted to bring about many simultaneous congruents and co-relatives across the many worlds. We'd guess, that you would want to create a powerful group of synchronised worlds in order to resist the tide of Neopangaea, in order to prevent elastic "realton" of the many worlds in one.

Is it true that you could the building of pyramids, stone columns, monuments co-ordinated precisely with astronomical observers? Maybe. But to the builders working with you, one stone would probably be as good as another, thus in one universe they would maybe choose one, in another, would scrape away that slight piece of moss or would allow it. Having two different heaps of rocks in the same place in two different universes would not be a lot of help to you.

The best method would be a self-regulating homeostatic system which you could put precisely in a human body.

Ideally a lot of them.

A group of human beings wandering around, loosely organized, working at some common task would be a good beginning – but would still be too chaotic.

So we'd guess instead, that you wanted to bring close together the phenomenon of an athletic coordinate on a mass scale.

What would happen, if you were to take athletes out of the Hellenic world, and force them to train for many months at Elis, perfecting their moves in order to be the absolutely quickest, optimising them about the best method to run on paths? And then force them at pre-arranged times, to run the same paths, un-varying across thousands of years?

You would maybe help to save the world.

After the new catastrophe of 1815, the Multiworld Athletic Committee needed almost half of a century to communicate its plans to enough worlds to a make a difference.

Agonothetai in hundreds of thousands of worlds worked tirelessly to create an organisation, an international contest based onthe model of the ancient Olympics.

They put together as much as possible of the lost knowledge of Elis, coordinated events and places across the worlds, making sure that the Olympiad of the Multiverse should grow, should flourish, and should become truly international in their own worlds. More importantly, they made sure that they should happen at the same times and in the same places on the surface of the Earth, even across the six different types of worlds

When we first arrived into this world almost 30 years ago, it was still not member of the Multiversal Olympiad. Today, the restored tradition seems that it probably will flourish.

Nevertheless, based on our best knowledge, no-one in this world besides we six acknowledges the world-saving importance of the games. Not one a historian seems to even acknowledge the true aim of the Ancient Greeks when they organized their own world-saving games.

We can only hope, that their own reasons for the creation of international games, their desire to unite the world in a spirit of sportsmanship, will force this world to keep the tradition alive. If yes, the other worlds can always watch as a spectator and coordinate – if we keep omphaloi in this world open.

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Cool, thanks, Chid!
I'll get to work on translating that in Spanish right away.
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Thank you for your quick job!

The words "homeostatika" and "restaŭrigita" might be translated into "homeostatic" and "restored".

ĉi and rkaŭvaganta should be together, ĉirkaŭvaganta.

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I'm also going to make both pages of the chapter into just one chapter, unless anyone feels otherwise, because that's the way Chid translated it into English.

EDIT:
The transcription of the Esperanto is up, as well as the English version. I have a question about the English translation, though:
Quote:
But to the builders working with you, one stone would probably be as good as another, thus in one universe they would maybe choose one, in another, would scrape away that slight piece of moss or would allow it.

Is 'one' referring to a stone? And if so, what do you mean by '[a stone], in another [universe], would scrape away that slight piece of moss or would allow it'? Is this an Esperanti idiom or something, because I'm really not getting it...
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Great work on getting the translation from Esperanto done so quickly!!

If any of you are interested, I've posted pictures of the Ear Inn and where I found the artifact here:
http://picasaweb.google.com/RivanorEnnJule/NYCArtifact

I guess I had to imagine that circa 1910-1920, there was a table near the entrance door (that's now a bench) and that a menu was hanging above it. As you'll see in the photo, none of these items are there so I was a bit thrown off. However, after re-checking the bookshelf, the German Composition book jumped out. Yup, it is a little textbook on German grammar (Unagi-san you were right on!!)

I may have overlooked it when I first went to check on Saturday but when I looked at the shelf today, I noticed that the area had been cleaned up (a bunch of flyers that had been piled around the books were gone and the books were a little more orderly). Regardless of why that was so, it did make it easier to find the book. Razz

There were writings on the back of the book but I don't think these are related to the artifact. But I'm still not sure what "second story" the book may suggest. I also looked around for any other possible items but nothing Greek or Olympic related. At any rate, we were ecstatic about finding it; we went to a nearby Apple store to post the finding on this forum. (I don't think I can go back to that bar; the bartender must be sick of seeing me poking around and raving about German Compositions.)

[For the record, my friend—who is not actually following the game—was excited but also really freaked out that there is an actual puzzle piece with a code that we physically collect. So when I learned about what happened in Hong Kong, mr.judkins' friend's sense of alarm was definitely understandable.]

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