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What woke Clovie up?
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K1Ng5p4d3
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porrphyrhia wrote:
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U gotta link u can hook us up with that shows Chuai equipped with guns pointed downward towards the ocean?? that would make your statement 1000 times more plauseable dude. Hook it up please??


i got you, man.

click here

this is the despoiler site. if you haven't checked it out yet, you'll be thrilled for hours, hahahahaha. i've done a LOOOOT of work there.

anyhow, if you scroll all the way down, and check the external links part, there's links to each of the chuai videos in each language they were shown. pause and play as you desire. and yes, you can see the guns Very Happy


Thanks Porr!! As usual, you freakin rock. I am now completely satsfied with the theory that Clovey was DEFINITELY a captive monster. Tagruato had to have had Clovey captive for a LONG LONG LONG time dude, seriously. I mean cmon, if they had Guns pointed downward into the ocean as a precautionary measure, just in case he broke out of his cage and went rampant, then that means that they had to have him for AT LEAST as long as it took to build that "drilling station". I mean, in july or august whenever Tagruato website went up, the Chuai station was still under construction, so that means MONTHS for sure.

But something in my gut is still telling me that they have had him under their control for YEARS, and i mean freakin LOTS O' YEARS. It makes total sense to me anyways. What i would LOVE, is to see pics of the other "drilling stations", especially now that ive seen those guns. If there are the same type of weapons aboard every single one of those stations, then it is safe to say that either Clovey has been their pet for freakin ever, or there is WAY more than one monster, and each station represents a prison for each monster.

Ganu Yoshida is a diabolical SOB, and the way that the stations are set up, i would think that if Tagruato found a way to control MGP and its affiliates, then their plan would have been to eventually hold the world ransom, and ultimately control everything, with the threat that they will unleash MGPs worldwide and destroy it all (talk about a monopoly, lol). That is, until OUR mgp broke free and started tearing ass down Manhattan...

Either THAT, or Ganu purposefully let MGP go free, so that we could bare witness to what his little pet is capable of, and his NEXT move would be to deploy Kishin/the Pod, and get Clovey back under control, shortly followed by a video of Ganu contacting all world leaders, and telling them that if they dont want the same thing to happen to the rest of the world, then they will have to bow down to him. Would be so freakin cool if that were the premise for the next movie. Just full on violence, extortion, mayhem, destruction, scandal, murder, slusho, ect..

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K1Ng5p4d3 wrote:
I am now completely satsfied with the theory that Clovey was DEFINITELY a captive monster. Tagruato had to have had Clovey captive for a LONG LONG LONG time dude, seriously. I mean cmon, if they had Guns pointed downward into the ocean as a precautionary measure, just in case he broke out of his cage and went rampant, then that means that they had to have him for AT LEAST as long as it took to build that "drilling station". I mean, in july or august whenever Tagruato website went up, the Chuai station was still under construction, so that means MONTHS for sure. But something in my gut is still telling me that they have had him under their control for YEARS, and i mean freakin LOTS O' YEARS. It makes total sense to me anyways. What i would LOVE, is to see pics of the other "drilling stations", especially now that ive seen those guns. If there are the same type of weapons aboard every single one of those stations, then it is safe to say that either Clovey has been their pet for freakin ever, or there is WAY more than one monster, and each station represents a prison for each monster. And the way that the stations are set up, i would think that if Tagruato found a way to control MGP and its affiliates, then their plan would have been to eventually hold the world ransom, that is, until OUR mgp broke free and started tearing ass down Manhattan...


i love how affectionate we all are towards a gigantic, horrifying beast that basically destroyed half of the financial capital of our country Very Happy haha, it's great.

i'm agreeing with you, man. maybe not EVERY station, but at least some of them. i posted earlier on how i was doing research on the locations of the other drilling stations. six of them are located on deep ocean trenches, each hitting depths of at least 8,000 meters. it's obvious that they found the parasites (whether or not that photo from USGX is clover's back, or just the sea floor) and probably clover VERY deep down... so, i'm totally agreeing that they either shuttle him around to each station, or if they have one at each of those stations. no one said there was one monster, only that there was one monster in the film we saw.

now, if there IS only one, and if they are getting their secret ingredient from him somehow, then it would almost make sense to have those certain stations somehow being a "prison" for him. if the seabed's nectar needs to be carefully preserved and frozen.... then, hell. put him near japan. pump the shit out of him, get it where it needs to be. australia needs some? chain his ass up to a barge, take him to that station, pump the shit out of him, and hurry and distribute it in australia. oh, now america wants some? again, chain his ass to a barge, take him to that station, pump it out of him, and hurry and distribute it, so-on-and-so-forth...

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 		read up again porr, i modified my theory just a smidgen, lol Cool n LMFAO @ pump it out of him. Dude, dont make it sound like people are drinkin CloverSpooge. Now THATS just wrong. The secret Ingredient to Slusho! brand happy Drink is MGP's knucklebabies everyone. The secret is revealed at last!!!

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 		He he and I thought my theory on MGP placenta was bad...sheesh!

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K1Ng5p4d3 wrote:
read up again porr, i modified my theory just a smidgen, lol Cool n LMFAO @ pump it out of him. Dude, dont make it sound like people are drinkin CloverSpooge. Now THATS just wrong. The secret Ingredient to Slusho! brand happy Drink is MGP's knucklebabies everyone. The secret is revealed at last!!!


hahaha, NICE. i love that idea. becos i'm one of the members of the "I WANT THE MANGA TO BE CANON!!" group. a lot of people view it as sort of a fan-fiction thing, but i'm praying it's not.

world domination. how freaking awesome.

knucklebabies, LMAO.

well, maybe they don't pump it out of HIM.. haha, i'm still laughing at that, i didn't realize how bad it sounded...

*about to get WAY out there, and i've been drinking. forgive me*

i've thought a lot about how SBN maybe comes from the parasites. doing some research on ticks, i found out that they release a fair amount of histamines and an anticoagulant into the immediate bite area to dilate your blood vessels, and keep the blood pumping. think of the parasites like a tick. they're "parasites" for a reason, so they're not just hanging on to clover, they're feeding on him somehow for their own sustenance.

when you remove a tick, it's VERY small, and the act of pulling it out causes it to release a different chemical compound to stop the anti-coagulation, otherwise the diluted blood it was full of would be puked back out all over you. it's not like they're sophisticated enough to have a sphincter that would hold in their stomach contents.

imagine the parasite biting marlena. the fact that it introduces a hyper-histamine and anticoagulant into her could've made her blood vessels dilate like HELL, just swell and pool up, her heart race uncontrollably trying to move the blood around, and then POP. huge arteries just swell with so much blood that they burst. just a thought.

going deeper, ANTI-histamines are used to make meth. being someone who had a bit of a bout with meth many years back, it does make you pretty damn happy. maybe they're getting the SBN from the parasites? reverse engineering whatever chemicals it is that is in them to create an addictive, euphoria causing substance. since it's unknown what it is, it wouldn't be classified as a "drug", therefore they can amass large profits from its addictive qualities. so, they would need clover for his parasites, at least to make SBN.

bah, this is all dependent on a lot of unknown factors, but i'm just tossing it out there for the hell of it. been on my mind for a few days.

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IncidentCloverfield wrote:
He he and I thought my theory on MGP placenta was bad...sheesh!


DUDE, i fuckin love the avatar man. Now i see what u was talkin bout, lol.

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 		Thanks bro! I do hope the Manga is canon because I enjoy the fact that they are giving us this backstory in so many ways. The manga, myspace, tagruato, slusho, chuai station vids, etc. It would be tight to see it all come together and put the puzzle together. If JJ's name is on it and it says it's cloverfield then I certainly hope it is! Even though as much I dislike (see I did NOT use hate to hurt anyones feelings...Wink manga in general. This one I can stand, yeah yeah cuz I'm obsessed with Cloverfield.

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porrphyrhia wrote:
going deeper, ANTI-histamines are used to make meth. being someone who had a bit of a bout with meth many years back, it does make you pretty damn happy. maybe they're getting the SBN from the parasites? reverse engineering whatever chemicals it is that is in them to create an addictive, euphoria causing substance. since it's unknown what it is, it wouldn't be classified as a "drug", therefore they can amass large profits from its addictive qualities. so, they would need clover for his parasites, at least to make SBN.


Not to smack you with any sort of fish, but I believe the main ingredient of home-brew meth is pseudoephedrine. That's a decongestant, not an antihistamine. That's why so many cold medicines had to reconfigure their blend, because many states require pseudoephedrine to be tracked and kept behind the counter.

Antihistamines, as a rule, are more of a sedative. As an allergy sufferer, I can say with confidence that Benadryl knocks me out. And don't even suggest Claritin...insta-migraine. Crying or Very sad

But I digress. If the parasite's bite was histamine based, the person wouldn't blow up. They would die within minutes of anaphylactic shock. That's what kills people with severe food or sting allergies. Their bodies flood with histamine and other allergy byproducts. Dramatic, yes, but not torso popping dramatic. Shocked

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m_talon wrote:
porrphyrhia wrote:
going deeper, ANTI-histamines are used to make meth. being someone who had a bit of a bout with meth many years back, it does make you pretty damn happy. maybe they're getting the SBN from the parasites? reverse engineering whatever chemicals it is that is in them to create an addictive, euphoria causing substance. since it's unknown what it is, it wouldn't be classified as a "drug", therefore they can amass large profits from its addictive qualities. so, they would need clover for his parasites, at least to make SBN.


Not to smack you with any sort of fish, but I believe the main ingredient of home-brew meth is pseudoephedrine. That's a decongestant, not an antihistamine. That's why so many cold medicines had to reconfigure their blend, because many states require pseudoephedrine to be tracked and kept behind the counter.

Antihistamines, as a rule, are more of a sedative. As an allergy sufferer, I can say with confidence that Benadryl knocks me out. And don't even suggest Claritin...insta-migraine. Crying or Very sad

But I digress. If the parasite's bite was histamine based, the person wouldn't blow up. They would die within minutes of anaphylactic shock. That's what kills people with severe food or sting allergies. Their bodies flood with histamine and other allergy byproducts. Dramatic, yes, but not torso popping dramatic. Shocked


the man is right brother porr, its either ephederine or pseudoephederine.

i wasn't a meth head or nothin, but i did check out the alchemist cookbook recipe on how to make it from the comfort of your own home, lol.

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m_talon wrote:
If the parasite's bite was histamine based, the person wouldn't blow up. They would die within minutes of anaphylactic shock. That's what kills people with severe food or sting allergies. Their bodies flood with histamine and other allergy byproducts. Dramatic, yes, but not torso popping dramatic. Shocked

Actually, inflammation of tissues is what histamine does and that inflammation obstructs airways, and is commonly one of two primary causes of death from anaphylaxis (the other being severe drop in blood pressure). I think the idea is that the toxic reaction from the bite results in some odd sort of cascading histamine reaction such that tissues inflame radically to the point of bursting. It's a reach, no doubt, but this is fiction. based on the soldier rolled by they refer to as a 'bite victim' it seems the abdominal tissues are what's blown out. There's definitely some sudden and rapid reaction in there. I was wondering myself if there are some other natural organic substances that might be prime for such an expansive reaction.
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 		whoops. fish-smack me on the meth thing. i didn't even think of that. and it's something i should've known, i watch enough history channel shows Very Happy i was just thinking of allergy medicine and whatnot, and there you go. i actually feel pretty dumb for saying that, haha. trumped me on my slusho theory Very Happy

such things happen when it's late, you've been speculating for days, and you've got a little too much cap'n in ya.

but yes, and thanks euchre, that was a much more eloquently put way of saying what i was thinking. becos yes, if they are literal PARASITES, then they're feeding off of clover somehow. assuming it's a blood-feeding, then as i was saying, something in the chemical make-up of their saliva would most likely cause vasodilation (which MOST histamines cause) and anti-coagulating properties. if that saliva is strong enough to work on clover (ie: dilate his blood vessels and obstruct his blood from clotting) imagine what it would do to a person? BUT, you're right about the anaphylactic shock, m_talon.

coupled with what i was saying about ticks. ticks attach, and remain. the parasites are latching on to clover, meaning the blood thinning, and vessel dilation has an outlet: the parasites bellies. if it just bites you and doesn't attach, then it could just go out of control, considering there's no outlet for the chemical reactions in the "host's" body, and the fact that they are used to feeding on something 100 times the size of people.

no worries on fish-smacks Very Happy haha. it was at least a thought-out theory. i'm glad to have folks put their own two-cents in on things. that's why we're all here. to put our late night, obsessive, insomnia-induced theories up and have intelligent discussion about them. it's my favourite part of uF.

though i still feel like a retard for the anti-histamine/decongestant thing. Crying or Very sad i'm serious. it's the captain's fault.

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 		Re: What woke Clovie up?
The crashing ChimpanzII or the Chaui Station?
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I was discussing this with a guy on another forum.
I think Clovie was under/around the Chaui station all allong and that the station woke him up.

The other guy thinks the crashed satellite ChimpanzII woke Clovie up near Coney island. After that the monster swam to chaui station because there was some seabed nectar there and he trashed the station. And then went back to NYC.

What do you think?



Im still stickin with my theory that there is a MGPOD (at LEAST one) underneath every single "drilling station". I think Tagruato had some type of World Domination Agenda, no bout a doubt it.

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 		Re: What woke Clovie up?
The crashing ChimpanzII or the Chaui Station?
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Im still stickin with my theory that there is a MGPOD (at LEAST one) underneath every single "drilling station". I think Tagruato had some type of World Domination Agenda, no bout a doubt it.


yessir. tagruato has monsters, not oil. maybe they get some oil as a cover-up, kind'f like money laundering or something. i think they're moreso a diabolical scientific organization than an oil drilling company.

you gotta cover your shit somehow, if you're doing something no one should know about.

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 		My Theory
I think that the deep sea nectar is actually the blood of an immobilized adult Clover, maybe some of the baby monster's adult siblings or it's parents. The satellite that came down was was tuned to a frequency that attracted the monster and was used to lure them to the drilling rigs so they could be killed and drained of blood. When the satellite came down near Coney Island it was still emitting a frequency that attracted Clover to Manhattan. When the baby monster realized that it was lost it freaked out and had a HUGE tantrum that resulted in the destruction of Manhattan.

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 		Yes. What did wake him or her up? Question inquiring minds would like to know these things.

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