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There are multiple cloverfield monsters
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porrphyrhia
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haha, when i first saw the movie, i was in the "two monsters" camp as well. i didn't look at it from a time frame standpoint... i just thought the pacing was weird. i would argue with my friends, "so, what, it destroys a tanker and knocks of SoL's head, comes out of the water and destroys a few buildings, runs and jumps BACK into the water and destroys the bridge, and then comes back out of the water again to continue rampaging?" i also cited how different the arms looked when it ate hud, compared to the rest of the film.

since those days, i know better.

one monster. seems shorter when it eats hud becos of perspective. arms look different becos it's leaning wayyyyy down, and has long, skinny wrists (NOT double-jointed arms). as far as it seeming to be everywhere? watch an episode of cashcab. manhattan ain't THAT big. and a 350ft tall monster, using those massively long arms to walk, probably has a stride of at LEAST ~150ft, if it's moving fast and desperately. that means it could cover a mile in about thirty steps. manhattan itself is only 22.96 square miles.

we arrest our cases.

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porrphyrhia wrote:
haha, when i first saw the movie, i was in the "two monsters" camp as well. i didn't look at it from a time frame standpoint... i just thought the pacing was weird. i would argue with my friends, "so, what, it destroys a tanker and knocks of SoL's head, comes out of the water and destroys a few buildings, runs and jumps BACK into the water and destroys the bridge, and then comes back out of the water again to continue rampaging?" i also cited how different the arms looked when it ate hud, compared to the rest of the film.

since those days, i know better.

one monster. seems shorter when it eats hud becos of perspective. arms look different becos it's leaning wayyyyy down, and has long, skinny wrists (NOT double-jointed arms). as far as it seeming to be everywhere? watch an episode of cashcab. manhattan ain't THAT big. and a 350ft tall monster, using those massively long arms to walk, probably has a stride of at LEAST ~150ft, if it's moving fast and desperately. that means it could cover a mile in about thirty steps. manhattan itself is only 22.96 square miles.

we arrest our cases.


very unlikely. and if u saw the video (i have a link on the first page) there definatley IS a physical difference.

and about the whole idea that there is only one monster, then i remember J.J. Abrams saying something about a baby monster. if someon could find that quote that would be cool.

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porrphyrhia wrote:
haha, when i first saw the movie, i was in the "two monsters" camp as well. i didn't look at it from a time frame standpoint... i just thought the pacing was weird. i would argue with my friends, "so, what, it destroys a tanker and knocks of SoL's head, comes out of the water and destroys a few buildings, runs and jumps BACK into the water and destroys the bridge, and then comes back out of the water again to continue rampaging?" i also cited how different the arms looked when it ate hud, compared to the rest of the film.

since those days, i know better.

one monster. seems shorter when it eats hud becos of perspective. arms look different becos it's leaning wayyyyy down, and has long, skinny wrists (NOT double-jointed arms). as far as it seeming to be everywhere? watch an episode of cashcab. manhattan ain't THAT big. and a 350ft tall monster, using those massively long arms to walk, probably has a stride of at LEAST ~150ft, if it's moving fast and desperately. that means it could cover a mile in about thirty steps. manhattan itself is only 22.96 square miles.

we arrest our cases.


Well said.

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Actually the whole "Clover is a baby"theory/speculation, has two meanings to it (that I could think of ). "Baby" as in Clover in baby-form, not fully grown yet and Clover's "baby-like" behavior, as to being in a new environment, while being attacked. I want to believe there's more than one. For the movie there was only ONE.

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tail-chasing

I can't believe months later, people are still entertaining such goofy theories. Some random schlub does a cheesy youtube movie with the worst case-evidence on earth, and there's someone happily posting it as the proof they needed for their knowing better.

Augh.

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Myke338 wrote:
porrphyrhia wrote:
haha, when i first saw the movie, i was in the "two monsters" camp as well. i didn't look at it from a time frame standpoint... i just thought the pacing was weird. i would argue with my friends, "so, what, it destroys a tanker and knocks of SoL's head, comes out of the water and destroys a few buildings, runs and jumps BACK into the water and destroys the bridge, and then comes back out of the water again to continue rampaging?" i also cited how different the arms looked when it ate hud, compared to the rest of the film.

since those days, i know better.

one monster. seems shorter when it eats hud becos of perspective. arms look different becos it's leaning wayyyyy down, and has long, skinny wrists (NOT double-jointed arms). as far as it seeming to be everywhere? watch an episode of cashcab. manhattan ain't THAT big. and a 350ft tall monster, using those massively long arms to walk, probably has a stride of at LEAST ~150ft, if it's moving fast and desperately. that means it could cover a mile in about thirty steps. manhattan itself is only 22.96 square miles.

we arrest our cases.


very unlikely. and if u saw the video (i have a link on the first page) there definatley IS a physical difference.

and about the whole idea that there is only one monster, then i remember J.J. Abrams saying something about a baby monster. if someon could find that quote that would be cool.

Please just leave. Honestly.
We've all seen the videos...we all have the DVD by now as well, so we can check it in HD. There are no physical differences. Name one for me and i'll start to get you some credence.
As for the baby thing, that is taken so out of context. He said that the way in which he is moving is not unlike a baby, stumbling around, not used to his land legs. That doesn't mean that there are automatically two monsters, one of which is a baby.
Learn to research before you make terrible, ignorant, and all-around wrong statements.

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Re: tail-chasing

HerOdyssey wrote:
I can't believe months later, people are still entertaining such goofy theories. Some random schlub does a cheesy youtube movie with the worst case-evidence on earth, and there's someone happily posting it as the proof they needed for their knowing better.

Augh.


LMAO same here, when i saw this thread i was like this has to be real old , how did it get bumped back up here. Come on people , the reason for the difference in apperance has to do with the angle and speed of the shot , plus clover's face shape changes when agressive, almost like a mandible beak from the mouth, kinda like an octopus. think like the kraken in pirates of the carribean. it looks to me, so take all that into to account and that explains the difference in apperance, thats it. And like they said , watch the special features on the dvd, and youll be sure theres only one
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Myke338 wrote:
idk, it would just make more sense. and wheres the evidence that theres only one? Show me the evidence.


lol, this is also so typical that it's funny. "Shifting the ground." Make a stupid claim and when someone says it's untrue, ask for prove.

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amjdmg wrote:
Myke338 wrote:
idk, it would just make more sense. and wheres the evidence that theres only one? Show me the evidence.


lol, this is also so typical that it's funny. "Shifting the ground." Make a stupid claim and when someone says it's untrue, ask for prove.


Yep same thing they do to you with evolution. Thats why its called the theory of evolution and not the fact
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Myke338 wrote:
very unlikely. and if u saw the video (i have a link on the first page) there definatley IS a physical difference.

and about the whole idea that there is only one monster, then i remember J.J. Abrams saying something about a baby monster. if someon could find that quote that would be cool.


yes, i've seen the video. in theatres, six times. and i saw my bootleg about 17 times. and i've watched the DVD at least 7 times. so yep, i've seen it.

look, we're not trying to act like a bag of dicks here, it's just that this has been brought up so frequently, and when the makers of the film specifically state otherwise, there's not much to go on. abrams weaves webs, that's for sure, but to go on that assumption and outrightly NOT believe something said directly by him and everyone else involved, falls into pointless speculation. we can't blame you for it, becos speculation is what we've all been eyes-deep in for months. but this has been speculated to death already, and the vote is unanimous.

i'd love for there to be two monsters. how cool would that be? but you gotta go on what's been said as fact.

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Saiyan King wrote:
amjdmg wrote:
Myke338 wrote:
idk, it would just make more sense. and wheres the evidence that theres only one? Show me the evidence.


lol, this is also so typical that it's funny. "Shifting the ground." Make a stupid claim and when someone says it's untrue, ask for prove.


Yep same thing they do to you with evolution. Thats why its called the theory of evolution and not the fact


God is a theory.

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Dont know about multiple monsters, but theres definitely multiple dumbasses around here
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More for you to consider if you are still clinging to multiple monsters:
'Case Designate "Cloverfield'" - not cases, or any other plural form
"Whatever it is, it's winning" - again, not plural
"This is Hawkeye 6. Target still active." not plural, from someone probably in the air with the vantage to know what's below (and pilots can usually count to more than 2)
The military presence is way too strong with too much of an air coverage to miss there being more than one monster roaming around NYC. Note that despite the fact that there are many parasites, they clearly use a singular to refer to the major target. That's a pretty solid indication that they are certain of and thoroughly focusing on ONE monster.
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well then there u go. fine, ill i had was a idea, and i nvr knew that u guys alredy talked about this cuse i just joined this site to talk about Clover

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It's okay Mikey. Don't listen to these jerks! There are multiple monsters. Parasites and Cloverfield. Razz

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