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suckaH
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Myke338 wrote:
well lets think logic here. the monster produces about..... im guessing maybe 10 seconds to form and fall off, maybe 20 if you push it. and i round about 4 per minute or 6. and the military is there, so they shoot a lot of them cause when your not shooting the big monster (which by the way i still think theres more than one monster, cuse the thing cant be damn near invincable) your gonna be shooting parasites.

which makes sense why all the parastes we saw in the movie were in the subway tunnel or abondened buildings so they dont all die. thats why they were hardly attacked by mini-clovers. there isnt any main enemy in the movie for our group cuse they were hardly ever attacked.

You're right, they were hardly ever attacked. The movie documents several people having a peaceful stroll in downtown manhattan, enjoying crumpets and tea while engaging in philosophical conversation. Along the way, one of them just happened to die from a monster's tail completely obliterating him, another from abdominal explosion, another from getting brutally bitten in half, and another two suffer an unknown fate. Yeah, you're right, then almost never got attacked...

Btw, the monster didn't produce any parasites whatsoever.

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suckaH wrote:
Myke338 wrote:
well lets think logic here. the monster produces about..... im guessing maybe 10 seconds to form and fall off, maybe 20 if you push it. and i round about 4 per minute or 6. and the military is there, so they shoot a lot of them cause when your not shooting the big monster (which by the way i still think theres more than one monster, cuse the thing cant be damn near invincable) your gonna be shooting parasites.

which makes sense why all the parastes we saw in the movie were in the subway tunnel or abondened buildings so they dont all die. thats why they were hardly attacked by mini-clovers. there isnt any main enemy in the movie for our group cuse they were hardly ever attacked.

You're right, they were hardly ever attacked. The movie documents several people having a peaceful stroll in downtown manhattan, enjoying crumpets and tea while engaging in philosophical conversation. Along the way, one of them just happened to die from a monster's tail completely obliterating him, another from abdominal explosion, another from getting brutally bitten in half, and another two suffer an unknown fate. Yeah, you're right, then almost never got attacked...

Btw, the monster didn't produce any parasites whatsoever.



I was laughing my ass off when i read that, him calculating how many per minute and all. dude its like all life in the ocean. smaller animals live off of bigger ones in whats called a symbiotic relationship, one helps the other out. its the reason why youll see a shark letting a little fish clean its teeth for it without biting him in half, and in return for the cleaning the little fish gets a meal. its you scratch my back and ill scratch yours. This is why you were supposed to pay attention in school, it just makes you look dumb as shit once your in the real world. Thats all they were symbiotic beings on the larger creature. Plus its been said in all the interviews with Reeves, JJ, Page, etc, etc, that this is what they were. did you even see the movie?
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 		the monster isn't "damn near invulnerable". look, grab an AK47, and go shoot the shit out of a blue whale and watch what happens. not a whole lot. you probably won't even get past the blubber. and a blue whale is about 1/3 the size of clover, not to mention clover was at the bottom of the ocean (think pressure, "extremophiles", etc). guns hurt people and small animals becos our dermis is what, 1/4 inch thick? people are relatively frail creatures. just becos we can kill eachother with guns, doesn't mean we can kill everything with guns. even big guns.

COULD they kill the monster? sure. imagine how thick-skinned a 350ft tall monster is. imagine again, that we have no idea about its internal anatomy. bullets aren't really gonna do much. nor are bombs or bazooka shots. they'd probably just bruise the thing, as the explosives aren't PUNCTURING it, they're just hitting it. they also missed, a LOT. comparatively, it's like shooting bottle rockets at your friend. he won't die, he'll just be pissed. and may/may not eat you.

i've looked for a while, but there's an article on a site describing all of this. of course, i can't friggin find it to link. anyway, they use practical deduction of military knowledge, and the weapons they were most likely using in the film. it goes in-depth into what each weapon is, and why they WOULDN'T be effective. it then goes into detail stating what weapons our military has that WOULD be.

think of something like the "bunker buster". an explosive device designed to penetrate a dynamic surface. there would probably be clover-chunks everywhere.

a little long-winded, but i say again: ONE MONSTER.

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the monster isn't "damn near invulnerable". look, grab an AK47, and go shoot the shit out of a blue whale and watch what happens. not a whole lot. you probably won't even get past the blubber. and a blue whale is about 1/3 the size of clover, not to mention clover was at the bottom of the ocean (think pressure, "extremophiles", etc). guns hurt people and small animals becos our dermis is what, 1/4 inch thick? people are relatively frail creatures. just becos we can kill eachother with guns, doesn't mean we can kill everything with guns. even big guns.

COULD they kill the monster? sure. imagine how thick-skinned a 350ft tall monster is. imagine again, that we have no idea about its internal anatomy. bullets aren't really gonna do much. nor are bombs or bazooka shots. they'd probably just bruise the thing, as the explosives aren't PUNCTURING it, they're just hitting it. they also missed, a LOT. comparatively, it's like shooting bottle rockets at your friend. he won't die, he'll just be pissed. and may/may not eat you.

i've looked for a while, but there's an article on a site describing all of this. of course, i can't friggin find it to link. anyway, they use practical deduction of military knowledge, and the weapons they were most likely using in the film. it goes in-depth into what each weapon is, and why they WOULDN'T be effective. it then goes into detail stating what weapons our military has that WOULD be.

think of something like the "bunker buster". an explosive device designed to penetrate a dynamic surface. there would probably be clover-chunks everywhere.

a little long-winded, but i say again: ONE MONSTER.


Its been speculated that they used MOABs in the end scene, which are Multiple Ordinance Air Blast or Mother Of All Bombs, the largest non nuclear weapon we have. If that was what was used , then it is tougher then you think. It may have injured it some. tho, If you go by the fact he had to have left Manhatten or how would the recovery begin to retrieve the camera. Its not like they knew where to look to find someone that had it all on tape, It could be months later when found. Likely they nailed it with a couple MOABs cause the yell of the creature is different then all the others sounds like its in alot of pain. Probably slinked back into the ocean to lick its wounds
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Its been speculated that they used MOABs in the end scene, which are Multiple Ordinance Air Blast or Mother Of All Bombs, the largest non nuclear weapon we have. If that was what was used , then it is tougher then you think. It may have injured it some. tho, If you go by the fact he had to have left Manhatten or how would the recovery begin to retrieve the camera. Its not like they knew where to look to find someone that had it all on tape, It could be months later when found. Likely they nailed it with a couple MOABs cause the yell of the creature is different then all the others sounds like its in alot of pain. Probably slinked back into the ocean to lick its wounds


oh, i'm SURE they nailed him pretty good at the end. no doubt about it. i was just referring to what that guy was saying earlier about how they kept shooting a bombing it, but it just kept coming. the piddily-shit they were throwing at it through the majority of the film probably stung, burned, and bruised at best. but yeah, at the end, they got him good.

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porrphyrhia wrote:
Saiyan King wrote:
Its been speculated that they used MOABs in the end scene, which are Multiple Ordinance Air Blast or Mother Of All Bombs, the largest non nuclear weapon we have. If that was what was used , then it is tougher then you think. It may have injured it some. tho, If you go by the fact he had to have left Manhatten or how would the recovery begin to retrieve the camera. Its not like they knew where to look to find someone that had it all on tape, It could be months later when found. Likely they nailed it with a couple MOABs cause the yell of the creature is different then all the others sounds like its in alot of pain. Probably slinked back into the ocean to lick its wounds


oh, i'm SURE they nailed him pretty good at the end. no doubt about it. i was just referring to what that guy was saying earlier about how they kept shooting a bombing it, but it just kept coming. the piddily-shit they were throwing at it through the majority of the film probably stung, burned, and bruised at best. but yeah, at the end, they got him good.


I wasnt trying to say that you didnt. Was just trying to spell it out a bit, cause i hadnt seen anyone bring up the fact that it would mean Clover clearing out back into the ocean or further inland for the recovery to begin and the tape be found
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 		idk i think we need to go thermonuclear on Clover's ass.

so im guessing we're really screwed in the 2nd movie cuse theres gonna be multiple monsters.

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 		Just a note, so i'm watching the DVD frame by frame, and the first time we get a good view of Cloverfield's head, when it's nighttime and Rob and company are running for the subway, Cloverfield gets hit by a massive amount of artillery. In those seconds, you can clearly see that Cloverfield is in pain, because there's a frame where his eyes shut close from the pain he's in.

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Just a note, so i'm watching the DVD frame by frame, and the first time we get a good view of Cloverfield's head, when it's nighttime and Rob and company are running for the subway, Cloverfield gets hit by a massive amount of artillery. In those seconds, you can clearly see that Cloverfield is in pain, because there's a frame where his eyes shut close from the pain he's in.

I laughed out loud when I read this. Clearly when something blinks it's in pain.
You and myke definitely were born without the element of common sense.

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 		It's debris and dust, plus barnacles.
Some of the dust even lands on the camera lens, come on really? Parasites? come on man.

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lapierre520 wrote:
It's debris and dust, plus barnacles.
Some of the dust even lands on the camera lens, come on really? Parasites? come on man.

i can understand dust, and i know that parasites are out of the question, but i dont think barnacles could have stayed on Clover's back through the MOAB airstrike plus constant artillery fire. its just building residue and debris

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 		You ever tried pulling some barnacles off whatever they're stuck to? NOT an easy task....

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 		Well, it has been said that he had barnacles on him. If the barnacles attached in the extremely deep water where Clover lived, where the pressure is incredibly strong, maybe they could withstand bombs? Not saying i think this. But he did have barnacles on him at some point.

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Myke338 wrote:
lapierre520 wrote:
It's debris and dust, plus barnacles.
Some of the dust even lands on the camera lens, come on really? Parasites? come on man.

i can understand dust, and i know that parasites are out of the question, but i dont think barnacles could have stayed on Clover's back through the MOAB airstrike plus constant artillery fire. its just building residue and debris


The bomb is dropped at the end of the movie, so it's possible for them to still be there.

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suckaH wrote:
kenclops wrote:
Just a note, so i'm watching the DVD frame by frame, and the first time we get a good view of Cloverfield's head, when it's nighttime and Rob and company are running for the subway, Cloverfield gets hit by a massive amount of artillery. In those seconds, you can clearly see that Cloverfield is in pain, because there's a frame where his eyes shut close from the pain he's in.

I laughed out loud when I read this. Clearly when something blinks it's in pain.
You and myke definitely were born without the element of common sense.


Sucka, shut up. Nimrod.

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