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blaaaaaah
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Animaniac wrote:
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Thanks, I was just saying, since the clock disapears a few minutes into the film, and with Hud and Jason messing with it, they could've changed the time accidentally, doubt it though.

I agree with the Idea that Dec = April, Jan = May

But they could've just made it so much easier and changed the clock in the movie to match real dates >>;


If they did that then Rob and Beth's date to Coney Island would have been in December, a time that the park is not only closed, but buried in snow.

Like this

And no one wants the girls in the movie to be hidden under winter coats...


I don't think you understand the concept. I'm not talking about weather, or seasons. It's for reference. In our time, Rob's party was january 18th. In the MOVIE UNIVERSE, it was May 22nd. You use those dates as reference points.

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In other words, the movie universe is about 3-4 months in the future from ours, Give or take a couple years too.

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blaaaaaah wrote:
Animaniac wrote:
hunter2458 wrote:
Thanks, I was just saying, since the clock disapears a few minutes into the film, and with Hud and Jason messing with it, they could've changed the time accidentally, doubt it though.

I agree with the Idea that Dec = April, Jan = May

But they could've just made it so much easier and changed the clock in the movie to match real dates >>;


If they did that then Rob and Beth's date to Coney Island would have been in December, a time that the park is not only closed, but buried in snow.

Like this

And no one wants the girls in the movie to be hidden under winter coats...


I don't think you understand the concept. I'm not talking about weather, or seasons. It's for reference. In our time, Rob's party was january 18th. In the MOVIE UNIVERSE, it was May 22nd. You use those dates as reference points.


Exactly.. but if they changed the dates in the movie to match the ARG.. then the problems I was humorously pointed out would occur, thats just some of the reasons they didn't and wouldn't have done that.

The incident occured May 22 2009, the dates in the arg were given as our RL dates for our "convenience". To figure out the IG date of something, figure how far removed from Jan 18 2008 it is, and adjust it as if the reference date was May 22 2009. I've been preaching this since January, so yeah, I know the concept, I'm pretty much the goto guy on it..

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If you go far back enough in the timeline you can drop the conversion.. no reason to adjust the Slusho & Tag histories or most of the TIDO fun facts by 16 months.. Although I hope that would have been obvious.
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naw, pretty sure I'm right

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blaaaaaah wrote:
naw, pretty sure I'm right


What are you saying that's different then?

And to keep this on topic, Rob and beths date was April 22, right?

The Chuai incident occured December 27, 2007 in RL according to the news reports, which means May 1st, 2009 IG.

Chuai sank over a week after the date.
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I think the satellite falling happened first, then later the chaui station got taken out. Reason I think this is from this little theory ive had for a while now. I know people are saying that the kishin comics are not canon, but if thats the case then you have to disregard most of the viral we have on the net already. anyways heres my thought...

From the comic we know that this pod is inside kishin and they are more or less connected. Now we also know that Clovie was searching for this pod and thats why he came to japan and found kishin. Now what if in the 4th one, Tagruato gets a hold of Kishin. Some of the cult has been taken out, so they are alot less likely to search for him. His father tried to save the world by blowing themselves up. now not able to save kishin. But anyways. What if Tagruato somehow got a hold of kishin and clovie, Kill off kishin and manage to recapture clovie, but this time instead of just holding him on the back of a ship. they tie him down no where near japan for him to hit them again, so in the area of the chaoi station. The station is used as a cage more or less. Since this monster has been on the seabed floor for who knows how long, these fields of SBN they are finding are just his piles of whatever your imagination can fathom, TBH im thinkin his crap. They found this out then just produce it from him captured under the station. Now They make short work of kishin, getting the pod out of him. Thus using Bold Futura to send that pod out into space in the satellite! Because if you remember kishins father said that just going to a different city wont help. he has to be destroyed. So them thinking that taking this pod off the planet will help. They send it up to space, clovie maybe cant sence the waves coming from the pod so far away and from being underwater, he falls into a sleep. Thats when at the end of the movie we see this "satellite" fall. The pod gets into wave trasmitting distance to clovie, near NY. Clovie sences the waves, wakes up, pissed off as hell that hes constrained again destroys the chaoi station, then heads for the position he felt the pods waves coming from. Which was NY.

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YOUR THEORIES ARE BULLSHIT!!!

haha, kidding. you know that. glad to see you putting that out on the mainstream, man. that's some good stuff.

by the by, i'm starting to think that perhaps the pod is an egg. "splinter of amnion", "amnion" being the protective covering of an embryo.... who knows? i mean, if clover's been here for thousands of years, an egg could take forever to hatch. at least, that could explain its existence, and why it resonates signals to clover. clover might be a mommy Very Happy

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In the ARG itself, there is mention of both the Chimpanzee satellite crash, aswell as the Chuai incident. So wouldn't it be plausable to say that since they both happened in the ARG, they would be following the ARG timeline, regardless of what happened in the movie? the Chimpanzee crash happened somethin like a month n a half before the Chuai vids were released didnt it? just go to the Tagruato website and look up the article on the Satellite. So that would mean that Chimpanzee crashed before Chuai got demolished, right??

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N i posted the whole Chuai station doubling as a cage for Clovie friggin months ago, about a month before the movie came out, and i got trashed for it. VINDICATED AT LAST!!!!!! lol, i knew it was a good theory man. I friggin love it.

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hahaha, well, if you check some older posts, we're all in agreeance about the dates. they had to make the ARG dates real-time for it to make sense, the movie was already made. so the timelines interact, it was just an f-up on paramounts ARG folks to make the IG elements real-time.

but yes. i would say that the satellite fell before the chuai incident. I_Will_I and i have been discussing a theory about why that would be significant, based on the manga-is-canon belief.

we still can't be certain about the monster. was he at chuai? were they holding him there? "no oil here!" remember? but then, did they find him when they were looking for a part of the satellite? it's all too much, and every theory is valid at this point.

unless you say clover is cthulhu, or there's more than one monster. then i'll kick you in the fucking nose.

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We'll have to wait and see if Kishin ends up being canon from the 4th volume, I'd bet kishin dies and Clovie goes rampant rather than just dying or vegging.

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Animaniac wrote:
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naw, pretty sure I'm right


What are you saying that's different then?

And to keep this on topic, Rob and beths date was April 22, right?

The Chuai incident occured December 27, 2007 in RL according to the news reports, which means May 1st, 2009 IG.

Chuai sank over a week after the date.



I was just fuckin' around with you, hombre

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Sorry fellaz but i still dont get it. What does Kishin - Is - Canon mean?? someone please explain this to me. Was this in the 3rd Manga? like i said before, i feel like a moron not knowing about this, but im fuckin DYIN to know what you guys mean. Seriously, help me out here,lol.


N Porrphyrhia,
I cant remember which thread i posted this in, so since i aint sure if you read it or not, ill say it again for ya brother. HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!! lol, i know you dont know me or nothin, but hey, have a good one. My name is Russ. Nice to meetcha man Very Happy

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N Hunter,

What did you mean when you said last night that there are 14 Easter Eggs on the Cloverfield DVD?? im kinda baffled with that shit. I thought there were only 4 Eggs. What am i missing here??!?

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I saw a site that said 14...guess they were including all the ones inside the movie too.

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