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Analysis and transscript of the transmission on the new site
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hunter2458
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 		Thanks, I'll take a look while I still have the DVD.

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Vince S. wrote:
hunter2458 wrote:
Where was he cameo'd? Was he in the Heli with Lily?
He was on the bridge scene, Hud had the camera on him for a good few moments just before we heard the creature surfacing below the bridge.

Just as everyone on the set looks in the direction of the sound, you have a very good look at his face, and he looks nearly identical to Teddy. I saw pictures somewhere, perhaps at the 1-18-08news forums, for comparison.

--Vince S.

That was never confirmed by any means.

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http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=24978&start=210

I think it's confirmed sucka.

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http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=24978&start=210

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hunter2458 wrote:
I don't think anyone noticed this post and to bump it so I can get others opinion on the Cameo appearance of Teddy In New York (1/18/08 Our Time; 5/22/09 Movie Time) and thus survived Chuai, he may have even been on the Tag tanker that was crashed in the same scene. Speculation fueled by a purposeful framing of Teddy in the shot. Also, I had my Dad use a fresh eye, since he hasn't been involved in the yet, I just put the Teddy pic in his hands and asked him for his opinion, if it was the guy on the screen, and he said that he would definitely approach the guy to ask if it was him.


http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=25114

http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=24978&start=210

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 		Thanks, Oh well, guess this thread can die too, since that was the last thing.

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Vince S. wrote:
This is what truly puzzles me: [i]Teddy was apparently abducted and captured by someone before the movie, seeing as how it was revealed in the viral videos that occurred prior to the date as well. However, he is seen during the movie, which is set in 2009---almost 2 years after his last appearance. The missing poster stated he vanished on 12/07/2007, but if he made a cameo in the movie, this may indicate he escaped his captivity and traveled to NYC just as the monster attacked.

Either that or the writers of the story line have managed to confuse themselves Laughing

Is there something I may be forgetting to take into account?

--Vince S.


Yes, the time difference between out R and the ARE/Movie
Teddy dissappeared Dec 7th 2007 our time, which converts to April 10, 2009 in the game/movie continuity. The PMs gave our RW dates instead of the game ones for all the ARE dates.

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We never confirmed if the manga was cannon but is it possible the VIP was Kishin, or this mystery pod thing to control clover with?

And Tag is taking it there to control baby clover but either it doesn't work or before they get there things go to pot. Likely from TIDO messing around at the drilling station.

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 		Well, from the manga, clover was asleep as he was being transported by Tag, I think they didn't plan to use him for anything, they just were moving him around for studies. Then he suddenly woke up as Kishin hit puberty and all hell broke loose.

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hunter2458 wrote:
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=25114

http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=24978&start=210

I think it's confirmed sucka.

No, it definitely still isn't. I for one think it is (though they could've blindly used the same extra), but there is no way for this to be confirmed. Half of his head is covered by a cap for God's sake.

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Animaniac wrote:
Vince S. wrote:
This is what truly puzzles me: [i]Teddy was apparently abducted and captured by someone before the movie, seeing as how it was revealed in the viral videos that occurred prior to the date as well. However, he is seen during the movie, which is set in 2009---almost 2 years after his last appearance. The missing poster stated he vanished on 12/07/2007, but if he made a cameo in the movie, this may indicate he escaped his captivity and traveled to NYC just as the monster attacked.

Either that or the writers of the story line have managed to confuse themselves Laughing

Is there something I may be forgetting to take into account?

--Vince S.


Yes, the time difference between out R and the ARE/Movie
Teddy dissappeared Dec 7th 2007 our time, which converts to April 10, 2009 in the game/movie continuity. The PMs gave our RW dates instead of the game ones for all the ARE dates.
Ah, I haven't heard of this. But it still contradicts, doesn't it?

If Teddy disappeared on April 10th ARE time, and the section in the movie that unveils him was taken in May ARE time, then it occurred after his disappearance anyway, didn't it?

It may also be possible that indeed that was only another individual with confounding resemblance to Teddy himself, though the facial features are virtually identical. Regardless, he may very well be the VIP as he was in possession of something extremely valuable and apparently a part of TIDO's operations. Kishin seems just as reasonable if the manga is canon(Which I believe a prequel is intended to be). The boy is clearly an effective means of stopping the monster as he can control it through telepathy.

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Vince S wrote:
If Teddy disappeared on April 10th ARE time, and the section in the movie that unveils him was taken in May ARE time, then it occurred after his disappearance anyway, didn't it?


I beleive its teddy, it's appears to be the same actor, and yes, he gets the same 'pause camera and get a look at this guy' treatment that jaime on the couch did.

Yes, its after he was captured, the running theory is that he escaped between then and the movie (either in the confusion of chuai sinking, or in the confusion of the sinking tanker) and is now at large, hence the "Where in the ARG is Teddy SanDiego Hansson" portion of the game we are now in.

The VIP would have been the executive looking fellow with the bodyguard in the helicopter during the Chuai videos.

A) He's in an expensive suit
B) He has a big ugly bodyguard
C) He has something very important in a briefcase*
D) Gets the above 'Camera Linger' treatment in the Chuai video
E) Even the boat video panned to show the helicopter escaped

*As Tagruato has other places they are drilling for DSN besides Chuai (as Slusho existed long before that station was built) I suspect the briefcase contains something directly related to Clover, either Top Secret Info, or perhaps whatever they recovered from the extraterrestrial object that was intrumental in waking him. (perhaps the 'pod' or another like it)
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 		Hmm yeah, never thought about the guy in the helictopter, your probably on to something. The guys on the boat (who got smashed by debris) are maybe the people that the monster went "after".

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 		I think it would be completely plausable to say that we are in between the Chuai incident and the NYC attack as far as the ARE goes.

None of the ig websites even aknowledge a monster attacking NYC even though it was covered live by multiple news stations. I mean look how fast word of the WTC attacks got around (instantly) and just imagine if it were a giant friggin monster instead of a couple of planes.

Now a some people including myself thought that this may have been because the ARE itself isn't entirely entertwined with the events in the movie. We weren't eve sure if MGP existed in the world of the ARE. The new pics we have of the Chuai incident prove otherwise as they clearly show MGP and many parasites.

So if it is confrimed that the events int eh movie are directly intertwined with the ARE and since we know that Teddy has been missing since before the attack as we know that Jamie couldn't get hold of him. Plus the fact that absolutely nobody in game has aknowledged the NYC attack in any way puts the ARE currently in between the Chuai event and the NYC attack.

I had a hard time putting this into the right words/format so sorry if it's confusing.

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Ashmodean wrote:
I think it would be completely plausable to say that we are in between the Chuai incident and the NYC attack as far as the ARE goes.

None of the ig websites even aknowledge a monster attacking NYC even though it was covered live by multiple news stations. I mean look how fast word of the WTC attacks got around (instantly) and just imagine if it were a giant friggin monster instead of a couple of planes.

Now a some people including myself thought that this may have been because the ARE itself isn't entirely entertwined with the events in the movie. We weren't eve sure if MGP existed in the world of the ARE. The new pics we have of the Chuai incident prove otherwise as they clearly show MGP and many parasites.

So if it is confrimed that the events int eh movie are directly intertwined with the ARE and since we know that Teddy has been missing since before the attack as we know that Jamie couldn't get hold of him. Plus the fact that absolutely nobody in game has aknowledged the NYC attack in any way puts the ARE currently in between the Chuai event and the NYC attack.

I had a hard time putting this into the right words/format so sorry if it's confusing.



We are nearly 4 months after the attack in the ARE now.

[the following collected from my previous posts on the subject]
None of the IG sites had a reason to mention the attack. TIDOWave went into hiding just before ithappened, Slusho and Tag (publicly) werent involved in the attack and have no reason to mention it (especially of they are hiding something), Alyse had no reason before to connect the attack to Teddy's disappearance (TIDO was the last contact she had for him), and everyone involved with the ARG that actually witnessed the attack (the myspace pages) are either displaced and may not have computer access (Lily, who is either homeless or in Gov. custody) or dead (everyone else w/ a myspace)

The only other website then would be 1-18-08 which showed the carnage leading up to the attack.. then the missing poster after.. Linking those for us outside the world.

It's indisputable the attacks already occured because of the myspace pages and Jaime's video. Both sources mention the party the movie starts with. Jaime is actually wearing the short party dress we see her in during the movie, making her video as she leaving for the party itself. That movie is inarguably May IG and Jan RL, from there we can backward place all the dates in the ARG occurring in spring 2009.

[new]
We don't know how the rest of the world has adapted/reacted to this rather unbeleivable turn of events. Yes it was a live news event, but so was "Special Report*" and "War of the Worlds" in thier original broadcasts. It wouldn't surprise me if a lot of people still didn't beleive it happened. A Dittmar Associates poll in 2006 showed that among 18-26 year old college-educated students "27 percent expressed some doubt that NASA went to the Moon, with 10 percent indicating that it was 'highly unlikely' that a Moon landing had ever taken place."

Also, its possible the goverment has spun it somehow.. not likely due to the sheer amount of destruction/deaths to cover up but a possibility..
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