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amaretto01
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 		Thermantia's response to Jasper
... an analysis of clues...
jasper wrote:
Here's what she wrote me. I've barely read through it myself, though the tone of the first paragraph makes me laugh.

Thermantia Ringon <thermantia1920>
to jasper
date Sun, May 4, 2008 at 12:42 PM
subject Re: MeiHui
mailed-by gmail.com
hide details 12:42 PM (5 hours ago)

Reply

Hello Jasper.

The story of the origins of your name is interesting. If I were to choose an artist to name myself after, it would be Leonardo Da Vinci. I admire his insight into how the multiverse works, in a time when few ompahloi existed. For example:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/22/Da_Vinci_Vitruve_Luc_Viatour.jpg

Of course, if you are a true student of the Codex, as I have been for years, even before the 2008 games began, then I am surely boring you. For you have no doubt already discerned the connections between Vitruvian man in his lost ring and the theory of athletic synchronization.

Perhaps more to the point. I have been following the 2008 recovery of the Lost Ring Codex very carefully. In fact, a very good friend of mine visited the location of the London artifact. You might call her an ally. Regretfully the artfact had already been recovered. However, my ally informed me that an interesting note was left behind.

Speaking of interesting notes, perhaps you would enjoy the historical information at this website, which I have recently stumbled upon. It is more learned than it would appear at first glance.

http://historyofantiquity.googlepages.com/home

Sincerely yours,

Thermantia



OK, so this response to Jasper seems to have lots of clues that could be used. First off, the mention of Leonardo Da Vinci, and how Thermantia presumes that 1) he knew of the multiverse and 2) that he indeed knew of ompahloi stones.

Secondly the link to the famous dipiction of the Vitruvian man is seemingly another clue; I can't remember the translation of the text (although I know it's written backwards and in Latin... anyone here know Latin?). Thermantia is assuming that this Vitruvian man has a "lost ring" and is connected to the "theory of athletic synchronization." However, the only relevant explanation I found for Thermantia's assumption of the drawing is as follows:

Encyclopaedia Britannica online states, "Leonardo envisaged the great picture chart of the human body he had produced through his anatomical drawings and Vitruvian Man as a cosmografia del minor mondo (cosmography of the microcosm). He believed the workings of the human body to be an analogy for the workings of the universe."


So here, I would agree that there's a hint that Da Vinci might have suspected a multiverse. And because he was fascinated with the precise measurements of the human body and that the drawing has been used in the medical field in present day, I could buy that he believed in athletic synchronization. But what's this that there is a link for a "lost ring" and the Vitruvian Man? I mean, he's drawn inside a circle and a square, but I don't know if that constitutes a "lost ring." Oh and just found this link via Wikipedia:

http://www.aiborg.net/decoding/

It's wierd, but it talks about the Vitruvian Man in relation to Time and Space...

Finally one more thing: Is it just me, or is anyone else curious about the "interesting note" that was left behind... what was it?

Let me know your thoughts... and sorry for the looong post...

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amaretto01
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 		One other observation...
... on the word "ompahlos"
According to the Glossary of FTLR: In Greek, the word omphalos means "navel"

I think it might relate in some way to this possible hint of the measurements of the Vitruvian Man, and how Da Vinci drew it with regards to the navel (I think).

Again, let me know if any of you think this Da Vinci Vitruvian Man clue is relevant or not... Confused

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 		Re: Thermantia's response to Jasper
... an analysis of clues...
AUZ505 wrote:
I wonder what's this found note is about. First I thought the website was from this note, but it seems that thenote and the website are two different "interesting" things.
Perhaps someone who got an reply from Thermantia should write back and try to get more information about this note.

amaretto01 wrote:
Finally one more thing: Is it just me, or is anyone else curious about the "interesting note" that was left behind... what was it?.

Here is all about the note, I believe:
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=25185

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mr.judkins
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 		La Sekto Unite...
Yep. That's the note that we put together specially for "theo", as per that rather lengthy thread - brilliant to see that all our work (particularly Bruce's whitespace suggestions fused with the Bacon "Cipher" idea, and Weezel's brilliant "Bacon-Maker" Tool), combined with macmonkey writing out our final note and leaving it for the opposition. Well done to all those who got Thermantia to write back!

To think they're using the code we developed to contact us back. Fantastic.

Anyhow - not being a Thumos or a Chariton, I'll leave the contacting from here to others, but my (ahem) "friend" sektano has started a Google Group for all those who wish to play double-double agent In-Game (another of Ariadne's suggestions).

http://groups.google.co.nz/group/lasekto

The group is not publicly listed, and is invitation only, but I'm pretty darn sure that anyone who applies for membership will be accepted. If you're keen, however, consider whether you want to use your actual gmail account, or whether you'd like to start up one specially for this purpose.

Once we've got some people joined up, sektano will be sending invites directly to both membersoftheo and thermantia... another potential avenue for delving into where they're coming from.

Oh - and if you apply for membership, you can expect to have your invitation accepted around 10 hours after this message is posted. Smile

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 		Re: Thermantia's response to Jasper
... an analysis of clues...
amaretto01 wrote:
Secondly the link to the famous dipiction of the Vitruvian man is seemingly another clue; I can't remember the translation of the text (although I know it's written backwards and in Latin... anyone here know Latin?). Thermantia is assuming that this Vitruvian man has a "lost ring" and is connected to the "theory of athletic synchronization."


When I read that, I assumed that she was referring to the strong resemblance between Vitruvian Man and the drawings on the "Athletic Synchronization" page of the Codex:

http://olympics.wikibruce.com/Codex-8Ap2

Many-limbed people in odd poses. Smile

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 		Re: Thermantia's response to Jasper
... an analysis of clues...
danteIL wrote:

When I read that, I assumed that she was referring to the strong resemblance between Vitruvian Man and the drawings on the "Athletic Synchronization" page of the Codex:

http://olympics.wikibruce.com/Codex-8Ap2

Many-limbed people in odd poses. Smile


I thought the same thing, but I like the brainstorming related to the navel...
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amaretto01 wrote:
Again, let me know if any of you think this Da Vinci Vitruvian Man clue is relevant or not... Confused
There may be something to the Vitruvian Man, or maybe not. In asking about her name, I told her I call myself jasper because I'm a fan of the artist Jasper Johns. She countered with DaVinci. She was a little snooty about it: "I am surely boring you." Maybe she got wind of my "art historical interrogation" of Eli Hunt.

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 		I just sent them a message about the weird dream I had last night about attending a job fair where I was interviewed by a TheO rep for a position and shown a scary video I was told showed what would happen if our six did what they're trying to do. I suggested maybe it was a nudge from a parallel me that was already working for TheO. Let's see if it gets a nibble.

(the dream bit is absolutely true! What I neglected to mention: during the video, there was a point before one of the ickier bits where you could clearly hear someone offscreen say "you're going to die if you don't synchronize," suggesting Mr. Theo Recruiter was not being entirely honest with me about some things)

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 		Surprised that's amazing Chaobell. Clearly your alternate self tried to work with theO and discovered that they ARE the bad guys O.O

Or at least that the synchronization is a good thing o.o

Crazy. I love dreams. I wish I could remember my entire dreams better.

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 		So rather than directly replying with a message in email, should the emails come from an anonymous source and redirect Theo to a webpage encoded with our return messages?

This still keeps up the interaction, but it's not directly identifying the individual sending the message and is still part of the LaSektano group effort.

That's the way I'd like to see it handled personally.
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 		Email anonymously...
Weezel wrote:
So rather than directly replying with a message in email, should the emails come from an anonymous source and redirect Theo to a webpage encoded with our return messages?

This still keeps up the interaction, but it's not directly identifying the individual sending the message and is still part of the LaSektano group effort.

That's the way I'd like to see it handled personally.



I really like that idea Weezel... how do we set that up? Smile

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 		Re: Email anonymously...
amaretto01 wrote:
Weezel wrote:
So rather than directly replying with a message in email, should the emails come from an anonymous source and redirect Theo to a webpage encoded with our return messages?

This still keeps up the interaction, but it's not directly identifying the individual sending the message and is still part of the LaSektano group effort.

That's the way I'd like to see it handled personally.



I really like that idea Weezel... how do we set that up? Smile


Well, anyone can do it..

-Create a webpage on a public site (say, googlepages).
-Get yourself some cover text (olmpic related, new atlantis, whatever you want).
-Use the BaconMaker tool to hide a message in the cover text, and edit your page to store the modified HTML.
-Get a temporary email address (gmail, hotmail, live, mail, whatever you want)
-Send a message to membersoftheoSPLATgmail.com with some chit chat text... "Greetings, I've come across this email address and I believe I have some information that is useful to you. http://yourhiddenpage.googlepages.com"

Now, they can always reply back to your temporary email address or your message can direct them somewhere else, or ask a question or whatever.. it just adds a layer of directly asking them the question, and in true cryptography sense, you're sending a plain text message directing them to a location for a stegged message.

Anyone who wants to contact Theo can use this method or another of their choosing.
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 		Thermantia was a woman that lived in Spain, was born in 325 in the Roman times and was married to THEODOSIUS......... as THEOdosius... Wink

Furthermore, the name Theodosius means the one given by the gods. In Greek the name Theo is the corresponding to God.

Is this a coincidence, or am i going crazy and i am seeing correlations between everything?

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pallada wrote:
Thermantia was a woman that lived in Spain, was born in 325 in the Roman times and was married to THEODOSIUS......... as THEOdosius... Wink

Furthermore, the name Theodosius means the one given by the gods. In Greek the name Theo is the corresponding to God.

Is this a coincidence, or am i going crazy and i am seeing correlations between everything?

You aren't crazy, and we don't think it is a coincidence.
Thermanitia was married to Count Theodosius of Spain, but her son became Emporer of the Rome Empire. His name was also Theodosius, aka Theodosius I.

Theodosius I was the Emporer who canceled the Olympic Games.
We strongly believe that THEO is named after Theodosius I, and our Thermantia has ties to THEO.

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 		Re: Email anonymously...
Weezel wrote:

Well, anyone can do it..


Alright. To give you an example:

http://lasekto.googlepages.com/thewiseking

I created the page. Grabbed the cover text from an online copy of A New Atlantis. Used the tool to create my stegged message, and then pasted the results back into the google page.

Additionally, I used http://www.spambox.us/ (Spambox) to create an anonymous redirect (good for 6 months) to my primary email account. This way I know immediately if there is a reply, since I check that often.

Lastly, I created a bogus account at Inbox.com (lasektoSPLATinbox.com) and sent the following message to membersoftheoSPLATgmail.com

Code:
Greetings.

I came across this passage of a Wise King in the novel A New Atlantis and I thought it
might be of interest to you.

http://lasekto.googlepages.com/thewiseking


Having done that, I can make the following available to anyone else who wants it.
a) Send me the code for your webpage, and I'll create it as a subpage of lasekto.googlepages.com (just like thewiseking). In fact, all I really need is the stegged text and I'll mirror that page.
b) Follow the steps to create an anonymous redirect to your primary email, and include it in your webpage (see my example). Or provide it to me with your stegged text and I'll put it on the webpage.
c) send me the body of the text you wish to email them, and I will email them from lasektoSPLATinbox.com.

I'm going to use this method myself, so I figured I would extend it to anyone else who wants to use it as well. Hopefully it'll make it easy for you to use.

Edit: BAH! Except for the fact on the last iteration my double spacing got removed!!!!!! Gotta fix that quick!
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