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[HOLO][TRAILHEAD] Holomove (was Emergen-C)
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mousekinn
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 		Has anyone decompiled the flash on Freyja's website? Perhaps this is a nudge we haven't looked hard enough into it.

Sadly, work blocks such things from me *shakes fist*

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OwnD wrote:
Has any sent a message on the "Contact Us" page? I haven't heard of anyone doing that yet.


mousekinn wrote:
I did, posing as a potential investor in the company. Nothing back.

Has anyone decompiled the flash on Freyja's website? Perhaps this is a nudge we haven't looked hard enough into it.


Traditionally this is not how puzzles are hidden/solved. If there is something in the flash we would have to click on the magic spot to open a new door. Why would this company hide something in their flash on the website? Think about what we are looking for and then we go find it.

The flickr clues appear to have been leading us to the company website (which we had already found). But also pointing out that this is the enemy. And there is probably something hidden there. We just haven't found the proper clue to open the webpage (maybe it's as simple as adding something to the end of the url)?

You can contact someone via flickr if you login (all you need is a yahoo account). Then you click on the person's profile and there is a link to send flickrmail (I did thiswhen communicating with Sammeeeees characters).
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enaxor
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alexbutterfield wrote:

Is there anyway to contact the flickr account holder? I don't have an account but can you get an email address?


I sent a flickrmail to the account holder when I first found it. As of this morning, I haven't gotten a reply.

alexbutterfield wrote:
Unless the puzzles are a version of the job application - a way for us to prove that we are worthy/capable of helping with the real emergency. But isn't an emergency meant to be urgent?


I think you hit the nail on the head, we need to prove we're worthy/capable of helping, plus he is/was a puzzle freak. As for the urgency of the matter, who knows.


alesbutterfield wrote:
What's with the Danish Connection?

Copenhagen Airport, Freyja Capital (Freyja being the Norse Goddess of pretty much everything according to Wikipedia) Erik Andersen speaks Danish (one of 7 languages he's fluent in, it is listed first and the others are more commonly learned languages) so could well be Danish.


Yes, a way to point us to Freyja Capital and Erik Andersen. I'm sure he's Danish.

From Wikipedia wrote:
The given name Eric is of Scandinavian origin. It is derived from the name Ei(r)ríkr, meaning "eternal ruler". And The most common historical form in Scandinavia is Erik. And Erik is more commonly used in Norway today as it is in Denmark, Sweden, and Finland.

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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 10:32 am
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redct-school
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 		Decompiled Freyja's flash (is it cheating?) but there's nothing of significance.

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 		Freyja Capital
There is a lot that is suspicious about this company, but I can't see any leads to follow. There does seem to be a Danish connection. (make mine cream cheese) One might assume from the story that Freyja was formed for the sole purpose of acquiring Holomove:

1. Freyja was a newly formed firm when "taken over" by Erik.

2. Freyja's sole acquisition (at least from the press releases) seems to be Holomove.

The press releases include references to successful operations, but since we can't read them we really don't know any more about the company. I think we are being told to look deeper, but where?

The only clue, I think, is the photo. I can't tell anything by looking at it, except that there appears to be a city bus (?) parked in front. Maybe someone with better photo sw (or eyes) can do better.

I did notice that the photo name is "Freja HQ", but the misspelling didn't lead anywhere. (There is a Swedish VC firm called Freja Ventures, but that appears to be real and OOG.)

I also sent information to "Contact Us" with no reply.

PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 11:09 am
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Greg
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mousekinn wrote:
Has anyone decompiled the flash on Freyja's website? Perhaps this is a nudge we haven't looked hard enough into it.

Sadly, work blocks such things from me *shakes fist*


I don't know the first thing about decompiling flash, but the source code lists http://www.google-analytics.com/ga.js.
The page looks like an analytics overlay, but analysis is something I sort of used to do, so it brought up an interesting possibility for those who were wondering where they got home addresses from for the packages:
you add a tracker to any page and you can get IP addresses. IP addresses can be mapped to to the pc, which gives you an address, and then they know all about you.
Its probably oog, but google has a new-ish beta for blogger that uses analytics. So it's probably happening all over again. Oh, and incidently, the announcement for this was made at SXSW, which is how Nathan stumbled across Holomove and Your Vegas...
Just thought that was an interesting bit.

EDIT: has anyone gone over the source code for Nathan's myspace page?

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redct-school wrote:
Decompiled Freyja's flash (is it cheating?) but there's nothing of significance.


red: my thoughts on decompiling(others' ideas may differ)-

I don't have a problem with decompiling flash, but generally, I don't want to do it until we're honestly stuck on something. Even then, I would do it only to get a direction. If you ever decompile flash and make a major find, make sure you go over in your head- "How could I find this legitimately?" Never just blurt an answer found directly via decompiling. Example: Tom Tooman had several VERY large gaps in action. I felt it necessary at some points to decompile to look for anything we may have been missing. Granted, if there's something the devs don't want you to find, and they're any good, you won't find it anyway. They can store all the files off-site and then lock that site. Point being, I don't find decompiling directly cheating. Just remember, again, if you do decompile and find anything, as hard as it is(that's what she said) just keep it inside until you can find a legitimate way to reach that solution. Maybe we should have a meta discussion on this topic?
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mousekinn
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 		Eehh. No offense meant by it, just curious. I've been poking around the site as best as I can, and I fail to see anything clue worthy.

Maybe we're ahead of their schedule Smile

I am somewhat curious about "Founded in 2002, we acquired a banking license in 2004. A year later, we concluded a significant transaction, where our partners collectively acquired a 27% stake in the issued shares of Freyja Capital." Wonder what that transaction was all about.

Straws, see me grasping.

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 		Going through Freyja Capital with a fine-tooth comb. Using the logic that they wouldn't be hiding puzzles here, as all the other puzzles have realistic origins, and why would FC hide a puzzle that would drop themselves in it?

But there must be something...

There are only 5 pages.

The Home Page

there is a picture. Freja_hq.jpg which doesn't seem too helpful. and the mission statement.

Quote:
Freyja Capital is a US-based venture capital fund that provides a diverse range of investment banking services to the companies in our portfolio.

Founded in 2002, we acquired a banking license in 2004. A year later, we concluded a significant transaction, where our partners collectively acquired a 27% stake in the issued shares of Freyja Capital.

Our strategic goals and objectives are to be recognized as a distinctive specialist banking group through our deep domain expertise and entrepreneurial culture, which is balanced by a strong risk management discipline and an intrinsic ability to be nimble and innovative.

We aim to build value-added businesses that serve the needs of select markets where we can compete successfully.


Now I never did understand high finance especially when it's vague, Brent-worthy, manager-speak, but there's a couple of things in this that grab my attention, I've emboldened them.

The first is just the use of the plural 'companies'. Does this mean that there is more than just Holomove in their portfolio? Or just an embellishment to make the company seem more established.

The second is that sentence about the partners acquiring a 27% stake in Freyja Capital. Maybe I don't understand at all, but why are Freyja Capital buying themselves, and only 27% of themselves? Where is the other 73%.

Also if this means it is floated on the stock market, can we track anything down that way? Dont companies on the stock market have to make their annual report public or something?

The Company Profile

Simply listing employees Erik Andersen, Mathew berg and Timothy Litton.

There are Linked In profiles of all 3 names, but all appear OOG.

While all the schools are legit, none of the publications that Berg authored show up on google.

New and Press

Its weird that none of these headlines link to anything. Also it would make sense if headline 01 was the oldest, ie. the first. but if thats the case then stories 10 and 13 are listed out of sequence. Poulopatis, as CEO of Holomove expresses sympathy for Goughs death before he gets the job at Holomove.

Also, it is odd to me that when making a list like this you would label stories 01, 02...12, 13. instead of 1, 2...12, 13. that is why are the single digits listed as double digits? that limits you to 99 stories. This could just be the PMs knowing they would only have 13 or so stories before the game expires, but it could be that there is a way of reading these stories using those numbers as a suffix or something. (wild guess, i know)

Contact Us

Several players have used this form to no avail as yet.

Privacy Policy

As pointed out, it's lifted from the BBC. This cold be significant or it could be a simple way for them to get a quick privacy policy.

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alexbutterfield wrote:
The second is that sentence about the partners acquiring a 27% stake in Freyja Capital. Maybe I don't understand at all, but why are Freyja Capital buying themselves, and only 27% of themselves? Where is the other 73%.


The way that I read that was that someone whom they were working a big deal with (read as Holomove) aquired a 27% stake in the companies (Freyja's) stocks.


EDIT

[spec]
Maybe this is why Dr. Gough is missing. Perhaps he didn't want to partner with Freyja, despite Freyja offering them a nice piece of stock in the company. Thus, he was "removed from his position" for the better of the company.
[/spec]

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 		I took that sentence to mean that Freyja Capital was founded in 2002 and acquired its license in 2004 (perhaps under Litton). Then a year later, new management (Andersen/Poulopatis) took control by acquiring a 27% controlling interest in Freyja Capital. After that, Freyja/Andersen took control of Holomove.

The headlines in the press section are somewhat scattered and misleading, for example referring to Andersen as "founder". I agree that it is very strange for them to be numbered, rather than dated. What good is a news story if you don't know when it happened?

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Freyja Capital

So tipster OwnD let me know that a new image has appeared on the flickr site from the crossword puzzle.


By means of pixel-magic-bar-code deciphering, it says

Quote:
haveyoufoundfreyjacapitalyet?



Freyja Capital being the company paying the bills. And where Erik works and the CEO used to work. Okay... not sure what to make of it, but thanks for keeping an eye out for me.

I'm actually going to try to not be a stress ball today and not work through lunch, snack, dinner. There is probably enough food in my keyboard to sustain me for a couple of days at least. Jay keeps telling me to chill out and keeps giggling about something he's done. It is harder to stress out when someone is giggling like it's middle school again. Lunch!


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 		GAH - beat me to it....

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Didn't do anything wrong did I? (Still waaaay inexperienced at ARG's - just have to make sure O.o)

P.S. If I did, try not to yell at me TOO much Sad
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tygr20 wrote:
redct-school wrote:
Decompiled Freyja's flash (is it cheating?) but there's nothing of significance.


red: my thoughts on decompiling(others' ideas may differ)-

I don't have a problem with decompiling flash, but generally, I don't want to do it until we're honestly stuck on something. Even then, I would do it only to get a direction. If you ever decompile flash and make a major find, make sure you go over in your head- "How could I find this legitimately?" Never just blurt an answer found directly via decompiling. Example: Tom Tooman had several VERY large gaps in action. I felt it necessary at some points to decompile to look for anything we may have been missing. Granted, if there's something the devs don't want you to find, and they're any good, you won't find it anyway. They can store all the files off-site and then lock that site. Point being, I don't find decompiling directly cheating. Just remember, again, if you do decompile and find anything, as hard as it is(that's what she said) just keep it inside until you can find a legitimate way to reach that solution. Maybe we should have a meta discussion on this topic?


I think there has been a discussion in the past. I don't remember the outcome, though. :/

@Greg

Analytics can get your IP address, but you can't do much more than get the location of the local routing station (or neighborhood DSLAM, at best). So, you can narrow down city and possibly neighborhood, but not address. Unless the PM works for the government or the local telco, which isn't really probable.

For example, when you do a reverse IP on mine, it comes out as being about 9-10 miles northwest of where I am, which is the local routing station.
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 		I get the impression that Andersen started Freyja in 2002 (perhaps along with Poulopatis.)

Firstly Andersen is Danish, Freyja is a Scandinavian word, and his Bio says he is the founder and CEO. Also (i dont know what its called technically) but the little yellow popup that describes that internet page and also the tab title in firefox is: Freyja Capital: venture capital firm founded by Erik Andersen.

Both Andersen and Poulopatis seem to have been to the same school (probably where they met). Anderson went to INSEAD, and Poulopatis' bio lists him as studying at Wharton which is an INSEAD campus in Pennsylvania.

In 2005 'our partners' acquired the 27% stake in the Freyja shares.

I read this to mean the company partners (like lawyers are considered partners in a legal firm). In the Holomove News section under Archives, Poulopatis is described as: "partner at Freyja Capital".

Which results in a sentence saying that they acquired 27% of their own shares.

Unless... it's a typo and meant to say that the acquired 27% of shares in HOLOMOVE.

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