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mousekinn
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Re: Coded Message

CCS wrote:
I think the message from the picture just confirms what has already been speculated about on this board. RK's email points us to:

1. Shinran Shonin
2. Battle of Yser, May 17, 1915

What these two have in common is the devastating use of a new military technology. The statue of Shinran survived Hiroshima. The events at Yser in May 1915 were part of the Second battle of Ypres, which is famous for marking the first widespread use of chemical warfare by the German army in WWI.

[Cue spooky music.] AJ may be telling us that Dr. Gough's technology is being developed for military use. Who could have ever predicted such a development!

Of course, none of that tells us what to do next. Oh well.


You mean RK, right? We don't know for certain it's AJ. (Personally I don't think RK would link us to a video where he featured so prominently, that's a bit silly and asking for trouble if anyone found out it's him)

You have an amazingly interesting point, there. It is sufficiently distracting me from doing my job.

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You are correct. I meant to write RK, but I guess I have been thinking of an AJ/RK connection. We should keep those two distinct, unless there's some reason to connect them later. Good point.

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mousekinn
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CCS wrote:
You are correct. I meant to write RK, but I guess I have been thinking of an AJ/RK connection. We should keep those two distinct, unless there's some reason to connect them later. Good point.


No worries. For the Yser answer to the second part of the email, did we ever figure out how 1,365 connected to the Battle? I mean, otherwise it makes sense if you ask me. (Everything has to be used in war. sigh. so typical)

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tygr20 wrote:
Interesting, but maybe useless information:

I Googled "1365 deaths" to try to correlate "casualty list number 2" with our RK email, and got this- Rudolf IV, Duke of Austria. Died in 1365- probably nothing. Still.

The lovable mousekinn found that WWII was 1365 days long.

There were 103 years between Shinran's death(1262) and 1365. Puzzling.

As for the text that hasn't been deciphered, it doesn't appear to be any simple letter subs, not a Caesar box, not a cryptogram.


If WWII was 1,365 days long, could be both are pointing to WWII, maybe an Enigma cipher? Then again the "May 17th" connection for the battle of Yser, is pretty strong too.
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Yser

"Yser" was first proposed as a solution by Catherwood back on page 39 (I think), and goes like this:

take letters 1,3,6, and 5 from "Yesterday"

The email subject was May 18, 2008. "Yesterday" was May 17.

"Lost innocence" seems fitting. Think "All Quiet on the Western Front" and "In Flanders Field".

edit: I also saw a reference somewhere to "more than a thousand" casualties at Yser, but I haven't been able to locate a "casualty list". Perhaps it would show 1,365 lost ... but that's pure speculation.

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mousekinn
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Re: Yser

CCS wrote:
"Yser" was first proposed as a solution by Catherwood back on page 39 (I think), and goes like this:

take letters 1,3,6, and 5 from "Yesterday"

The email subject was May 18, 2008. "Yesterday" was May 17.

"Lost innocence" seems fitting. Think "All Quiet on the Western Front" and "In Flanders Field".

edit: I also saw a reference somewhere to "more than a thousand" casualties at Yser, but I haven't been able to locate a "casualty list". Perhaps it would show 1,365 lost ... but that's pure speculation.


Ah.

According to wikipedia:
Belgium: 40,000
France: 15,000
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Yser

Interestingly enough, the second battle of the Ypres is the battle in which they used the gas (perhaps second casualties?). "Just to the south the First Battle of Ypres started concurrent with the Battle of the Yser." The second battle's casualties were above 1365 too, though.

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So maybe Holomove has a Government (who's Government???) contract to develop Dr G's technology into a WMD (Weapon of Mass Destruction)? And it's being funded by Freyja?

Has anyone tried a Vig cipher on those second strings?
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mousekinn
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Tygr20 tried a Vig, didn't work. We've run it through a couple of programs between us with no results.

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Well from the video of the technology image the weapon that could be created.

You could literally create the hand of god, use satellite mounted holo emitters to generate a huge holographic hand to flatten any target, or pluck a single person from their home.

A little comedic but it demonstrates the power.

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konamouse wrote:
So maybe Holomove has a Government (who's Government???) contract to develop Dr G's technology into a WMD (Weapon of Mass Destruction)? And it's being funded by Freyja?

Has anyone tried a Vig cipher on those second strings?


Ciphers I know that have been tried so far:

Vigenere, Caesar, Caesar box, cryptogram, and simple letter substitution. I started to try Vig and things picked up at work. My bad.
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Re: Coded Message

CCS wrote:

[Cue spooky music.] RK* may be telling us that Dr. Gough's technology is being developed for military use. Who could have ever predicted such a development!


This made me laugh - from the day I saw the video of the original experiment with the hand and orange, I couldn't get the movie "Real Genius" out of my head Very Happy
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I've been looking at enigma & vig. Not having much luck so far though.
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memehunter wrote:
New post from Nate:

Quote:
Okay, so I admit that my decision making is suspect, as I am…what is th word? plowed. all those -ed words, actually. Screw this place. And screw her. Or not.

Speaking of sharp pain, I decided to follow up on Celina's post, and see what the deal is with the Dr. photo. see below.

hey, who's hiring? I'm kidding. Sort of.

such a mess.

1) DJOMTSM DJPMOM R,SO;

DEUBPBAWNOUWXGNNAWEVBOHYNLBVUGGYIKVRWBGSBLSBZGKIIAXSICRMFFVUSBZHZMUY

2) VSDIS;YU ;ODY MI,NRT YEP
LPFWHSVWTLLQDPYWBRKQQIABEHVRLFIUIEHXXYFWMQMCOJSVAUMQMYAIKHRCRG



So, there we are. Let's get cracking.


So, while I appreciate the shout-out and all - fairness dictates that I point out that I mentioned in the *post* that Nate check the picture under the LAPTOP. It was Kona that suggested to look at the Doc's picture in the frame.

However, I *did* also send Nate direct email:
Quote:
Hey Nate,

Not sure if you're looking at this email anymore - but just wanted to make you aware of a new picture on the Random Knowledge Flickr page... apparently of Dr. Gough wearing a tank and vest in front of a boat, which looks alot like the one next to his desk in the video you took while sneaking into his office.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/randomknowledge/

Some oddities in this picture:
- Dr. Gough is wearing a wedding ring. In the interview it sounds like he doesn't have a wife or family - "I have excelled at science and I have made that the focus of my life" when asked about his family.
- You don't scuba dive in jeans and t-shirt.

Also the caption on the Flickr site is "Stabbed, in the back". Interesting place for a comma, don't you think? I'm wondering if there isn't something written on the back of that photo in the Doc's office...

I commented on this last thing in your blog but thought I'd mention it here too, if you're still reading this - that hourglass on the Doc's desk has appeared in two videos - the interview one you saw on your first day, and the one you just made while sneaking into the office. Both times, the sand has been apparently *stuck* in the TOP of the hourglass. I'm sure you'll agree that this phenomena is very curious indeed!

Aside from all this mystery - how are things there? I'm sorry about the fight with Eliza, and her "not having fun" on the job anymore. Has George "counseled" her about your video exploits as well, do you think, or putting pressure on her about your relationship? That would truly suck - managers should keep their noses out of stuff if it's not affecting work... I've also noticed on her Twitter updates that she's been at work REALLY late lately (I'm assuming you know about her Twitter - http://twitter.com/eliza123456) and I'm sure that's had some effect on her mood as well Sad

Hope you guys can catch a break soon from all the work and go get that huge Vegas margarita Smile Have one for me when you do...


So Nate may have confused my email with my post - but no matter, we got the clue we needed Smile Just wanted to post this for clarity's sake (and to point out that he's been asked *twice* about the hourglass and hasn't responded - so either not a clue or *they're* not ready to go there yet).
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Re: Coded Message

CCS wrote:
I think the message from the picture just confirms what has already been speculated about on this board. RK's email points us to:

1. Shinran Shonin
2. Battle of Yser, May 17, 1915


I thought the Battle of Yser was in October 1914?

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mousekinn
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Wireless is right:

Date 16 October – 31 October 1914

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