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Theo's uninitiation mission
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L'el
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balancing sync and de-sync

maybe we should have the same number of people do a personal sync at the same time(-ish) the de-sync pairs do their work?

we don't know if the ratio of effects is 1:1 but maybe it's good for symbolic intent.

should we be monitoring the RUN GRAPH to see if it changes as the de-syncs get reported to TheO?

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Khaos
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Personnaly, i'm quite sure that i am "de-sync proof". Since when i was young i was always doing unusual/nonsensical/stupid things (and encouraging others to do so too). So i have already created so many other self that this one time won't make a difference.

By the way, if you create a lot of parallel selves, the odds that you do something none of the others will do too are quite low.

Being already a particle of chaos (yeah that why i'm named like that), that theo mission won't change anything for me.
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Hrm, I just realized the best way to defeat this initiation desynch. Actually coordinate the story on why it would be something you wouldn't do, but in reality it really is.

That's the double cross.

By making it appear as if you'd never do it, you can get Theo to believe it, yet, it's something that you could do/have done so it can prevent the desynch.

I don't think Theo would have any way of monitoring it. For example, if the run graph starts to dip, we could always say its because of the increase of personal labyrinths.

So we'd have to do something that seems outrageous, but isn't, and then tell our partner to suggest that as our task. Just the very act of telling them what task to give you would avoid the desynch.

Make sense?
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Weezel wrote:
Hrm, I just realized the best way to defeat this initiation desynch. Actually coordinate the story on why it would be something you wouldn't do, but in reality it really is.

That's the double cross.

By making it appear as if you'd never do it, you can get Theo to believe it, yet, it's something that you could do/have done so it can prevent the desynch.

I don't think Theo would have any way of monitoring it. For example, if the run graph starts to dip, we could always say its because of the increase of personal labyrinths.

So we'd have to do something that seems outrageous, but isn't, and then tell our partner to suggest that as our task. Just the very act of telling them what task to give you would avoid the desynch.

Make sense?


Makes perfect sense, Weezel. Brilliant! I think ideally the people participating should choose something they typically do that's out of the ordinary, so The Oat's more likely to believe it's not something we normally do. Even something like watching a weird TV show (as long as you do actually watch that weird show) might work.

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Hi guys,

I'm entirely new to ARGs and whatnot, and this would be my first one. I have read all of the Beginner Data, the Timeline, etc. etc., and I'm completely up to date. I was wondering if I could help in the desynching/deceiving Theo process. Having never contacted any of the six, or Eli, or anyone else related, I am a completely clean slate - the perfect double agent, if you will. Someone/thing like Theo would never suspect someone like me.

So yes, please, I'd be willing to help in any way that I can. I'm Chariton, btw. Smile

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Weezel
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RiotGrrl wrote:
Hi guys,

I'm entirely new to ARGs and whatnot, and this would be my first one. I have read all of the Beginner Data, the Timeline, etc. etc., and I'm completely up to date. I was wondering if I could help in the desynching/deceiving Theo process. Having never contacted any of the six, or Eli, or anyone else related, I am a completely clean slate - the perfect double agent, if you will. Someone/thing like Theo would never suspect someone like me.

So yes, please, I'd be willing to help in any way that I can. I'm Chariton, btw. Smile


Great! Welcome aboard. The next step for you is to coordinate with someone who is geographically distant from you.

Would be a *great* opportunity to pull someone else into the game with you. Someone from college? Old job, etc.

As long as you pretend to not know them, Theo will be none the wiser.
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Weezel wrote:
Hrm, I just realized the best way to defeat this initiation desynch. Actually coordinate the story on why it would be something you wouldn't do, but in reality it really is.

That's the double cross.

By making it appear as if you'd never do it, you can get Theo to believe it, yet, it's something that you could do/have done so it can prevent the desynch.

I don't think Theo would have any way of monitoring it. For example, if the run graph starts to dip, we could always say its because of the increase of personal labyrinths.

So we'd have to do something that seems outrageous, but isn't, and then tell our partner to suggest that as our task. Just the very act of telling them what task to give you would avoid the desynch.

Make sense?


[META] I do not believe that the "just pretend to desynch" method will work. In real reality perhaps but not in this alternate reality. If the PMs decide to count this as a "correct" desynch event it will be counted as one and influence the story like it was a one. It fear it does not help if we do things, like Weezel suggested, because if Theo will not know the PMs won't know either. [/META]

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Elizabeth123 wrote:


Makes perfect sense, Weezel. Brilliant! I think ideally the people participating should choose something they typically do that's out of the ordinary, so The Oat's more likely to believe it's not something we normally do. Even something like watching a weird TV show (as long as you do actually watch that weird show) might work.


Right... For example, here's what I would do.

I would tell _june to write Theo and say she participated in theater in High School (even if she didn't, I did). Then she says that she'll make me sing a song from a musical. I'll say that I've never been involved in theater and I've rarely sung outside the shower, especially with no one watching me.

So I'm imposing something I have done, but acting like I haven't.

What are some other things like that?

Ask to other person to count to 20 in a foreign language (that they already know), as long as they say it kinda haltingly and not quite fluent. It would be something that would be easy to 'learn' if you've never done it before.. but in this case you have...
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AUZ505 wrote:

[META] I do not believe that the "just pretend to desynch" method will work. In real reality perhaps but not in this alternate reality. If the PMs decide to count this as a "correct" desynch event it will be counted as one and influence the story like it was a one. It fear it does not help if we do things, like Weezel suggested, because if Theo will not know the PMs won't know either. [/META]


You're thinking too much into this. Smile

Of course they'll know... and if they don't, we keep records of all our double crossing and then later reveal the truth and toppple Theo to the ground.
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lhall
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I've been writing to Kai about this and he thinks that the infiltration is a good idea, so I'm gonna go ahead and submit the ideas I've come up with, for momonga to do.

Kai also seems aware of the James thing and is asking for evidence, but he said nobody's been willing to pass along the alleged photo. Diego encouraged me earlier to get to Kai before James does, so I guess it's okay to send it on, at this point?
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RiotGrrl
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If everyone is worried about the desynchronization messing up the six's plans, then maybe we should only have a select few go through with this mission? Or even one person? One pair would be enough to collect information without potentially upsetting the balance at all, I'd think. A pair of double agents to send information back and forth.

Just a thought.

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AUZ505
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So finally elite.fencer and I are partner and received a mission mail from theo. Same text as posted before but with a different picture attached.

elite.fencer will try to play a double-agent (trying to lower the effect of our desynch event), whereas I am actually "playing" on the Theo side and will not do additional efforts for synchronizations (I hope you still like me Wink)

Nevertheless we both will discuss our tasks before we send them to Theo (which is against Theo's rule).

BTW. Have I understood the mission correct: The players choose their location themselves whereas the task is choosen by the other partner?
e.g. Partner A chooses a (for him unusual) location where he wants to perform the desynch and Partner B defines the task Partner A has to do.
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Gah, I KNEW that guy was being suspicious.

AUZ505, did Theo give any reason for sending you that picture?!?
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Ranger D wrote:
Gah, I KNEW that guy was being suspicious.

AUZ505, did Theo give any reason for sending you that picture?!?


No, it was exactly the same message as posted here in this thread (first post). Only difference: After "Good luck" Theo have written "We are watching."

So the guy on this Photo is James?

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The guy in the photo is me. That's the back of Ariock's head on the left.

This photo was taken when Ariock, hmrpita and I met Noriko at South Park here in San Francisco. There was this hella suspicious blond guy taking pictures of us, ducking behind trees when I would look at him etc. but since we were so worried about Noriko actually showing up, when she did I totally forgot about him. So it's likely James was at the park, taking photos/gathering intel on us during that meeting.

They are watching indeed.
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