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[SOLVED] Marcus Ormond's Metadex
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egomaniacal1
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Damn Dude!! Excellent work!!!!

I think we've had the smartest, brightest physicists and rocket scientists in the country working on this one problem.....well it seems that way.....anyway great work man!!!!

PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 9:28 pm
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Tuxp seems tuxmp, one of those guys from IRC chat.

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Azathoth666
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Will you still need me, will you still feed me, when I'm 64 (bits)?

And I'm sorry if I buggered up the quote... remember I'm at work here. Wink

Top shelf stuff Loki. Really: good work.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 9:40 pm
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rough transcript of heismissing and sheismissing (MLO)

heismissing.jpg
Code:


01/02
zurich trip
extension granted 01/(??)


   Flight No. re-confirmed
         V.M erased
         luggage (??????)


         Call C.S.
                      ------------   
         Management by -
            Proxy

-neighbors report
 problems - excessive
 noise right before the
 2nd event

-she wanted contact info
    Long distance bills

               Receipts stashed under blotter
                    - restaurant
                    - dry cleaners



Sheismissing.jpg
Code:

Rent-a-lemon
gas tank fill-up

add to
  receipts


(cross out)
request credit charges for 6 mos
 \-> spike in spending predicted for oct '01

(boxed)
What about J.?

- soc security nuked
- no credit history
- credit rating - none
     HOW???

clean slate, blank slate,
no trail, only this

Admin shippling slips @ front desk
  possible trackback --- documentation of mc info (???)
was he out judas?
Why her, too?


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Gas Receipt:
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 9:46 pm
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toongoon
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I wonder why he is out of the office 2.5 days every other week? Confused

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Gupfee
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Re: rough transcript of heismissing and sheismissing (MLO)

Anonymous wrote:


Management by -
Proxy



A small correction: I believe this actually says "missing maint log".

PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 9:57 pm
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egomaniacal1
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No. It does say Management-by-Proxy.

But what should be corrected is the Judas line.

Its actually: Was he our Judas?

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yanka
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Funny thing - the binary that "texel" left us looks like this in this converter:
MTEwMTExMTAxMTEwMDAwMDAxMDAwMDAwMTAwMDAxMTA

I'm not pasting the whole thing because it's going to screw up the formatting of the page, and also because the result depends on whether you "decode" or "encode".
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 10:08 pm
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eudaemon
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A new thread has been started on the stuff found in mlo's MetaDex under the Puzzles section. Maybe we should consolidate the posts there now since mlo's MetaDex (password) has been solved.

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xnbomb
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Uh-hunh

yanka wrote:
Funny thing - the binary that "texel" left us looks like this in this converter:
MTEwMTExMTAxMTEwMDAwMDAxMDAwMDAwMTAwMDAxMTA


Yep, it is interesting. Undoubtedly, if you pull some subtle variation of what you've already done yanka (I dunno, maybe making each line a certain length, perhaps 64 characters?), it probably says METADEX a gajillion times with the words forming on either diagonals or downward across lines. This would be enough to hint that mlo's password uses base-64 (When I'm 64 ... When MLO is in base-64 ... clever really).

While it's too late for this to help us with mlo's password, maybe it does tell us something about 'texel'. The clue he gave us was a mess of binary, which when converted into base-64 (using some subtle variation on what's already been tried, or perhaps formatted a certain way) likely says METADEX a bunch of times. But think about the nature of that clue ...

It's only a helpful clue if it is possible to look at that binary and recognize that it has some sort of base-64 structure. So, computer scientists and mathematicians amongst us ... is that reasonable and possible? Can you look at a bunch of binary and realize 'hey, we should convert this to base-64 and it'll mean something coherent'?

If the answer is yes, then 'texel' was actually being helpful and we didn't catch on. If the answer is no, then he was mocking us ... (you'll only understand this mess of binary when you already know the answer). Pondering this might tell us something about what we should think about 'texel' and any future help he might provide.

A related idea: It seems unlikely to me that we could have guessed mlo's password before we were given the additional info about his favourite song. While we knew he was 64 years old, and that seemed like a fact that stood out (since we know no one else's age), that doesn't lead easily to transforming his initials using a base-64 converter to get his password. I have to conclude that we weren't expected to read his metadex until they gave us When I'm 64 ... we got that information late on the 9th/early on the 10th, presumably just after the very interesting files were added.

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AnthraX101
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yanka wrote:
Funny thing - the binary that "texel" left us looks like this in this converter:
MTEwMTExMTAxMTEwMDAwMDAxMDAwMDAwMTAwMDAxMTA

I'm not pasting the whole thing because it's going to screw up the formatting of the page, and also because the result depends on whether you "decode" or "encode".


This is because of the algorithm that base 64 uses to encode/decode. Any string of 1's and 0's will look similar.

AnthraX101

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xnbomb
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Good grief! AnthraX101: If you stick any binary into a base64 convertor and encode, what comes back out is all uppercase Ms Ts Es Ds and As and lowercase xs and ws? How's that for a coincidence (the letter 'w' notwithstanding).

I suppose the fact that it spews out lots of the letters in Metadex might still be a clue, albeit not as elegant a clue as I first thought. I'm now wondering if a message like the one I imagined is possible, where you could arrange the binary to produce output from the base64 converter, which when properly formatted spells Metadex a lot either downwards or along diagonals. Looking at the converter output, I can see it breaks down into these four character segments:

MTEx, MTEw, MTAx, MTAw, MDEx, MDEw, MDAx, MDAw

Can it be done? I'm curious. Maybe it doesn't matter enough to bother trying. Texel's binary certainly doesn't do it in any obvious way, so perhaps my conjecture is a waste of time. I was hoping to get a sense of texel by fully understanding his clue (if it indeed was one). Still, when I look at that output, I see Metadex! Probably because the mlo password was taking about 25% of my available higher brain function until a few hours ago. Laughing

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what is funny with this is that the binary can also be decode like it can be encode....

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chacko
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so the password was 64 in hex?
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