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What woke Clovie up?
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?Sander
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What woke Clovie up?
The crashing ChimpanzII or the Chaui Station?

I was discussing this with a guy on another forum.
I think Clovie was under/around the Chaui station all allong and that the station woke him up.

The other guy thinks the crashed satellite ChimpanzII woke Clovie up near Coney island. After that the monster swam to chaui station because there was some seabed nectar there and he trashed the station. And then went back to NYC.

What do you think?

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I think that when the chimpanzIII fell tagruato went to recover it and when they went to find it they found the monster and with that they built chuai station to secretly research the monster and whatever they were doing there woke it up. but that theory depends on which happened first, the falling of the chimpanzIII or the building of the chuai station which i can't remember

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The satellite was a toss in (For fans of the viral). It was probably added real late, seeing its a simple effect. It was a toss between a throw-off for non-viral fans ("oh god look there it is falling out of the sky!) when viral fans after seeing it re-read the viral and remembered the satellite story.

It still appears the monster was being held captive at the oil station, then broke loose. Look at the Chaui video again, does any oil rigg you know of out in the ocean have multiple GUNS designed to shoot downward into the water? I think not.

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Whatever fell to earth may or may not have been a satellite. The news report from the Tag site is real vague. (explained here) But we do know it has something to do with the monsters awakening (a JJ interview quote IIRC).

We also know the monster was at(under most likely) the Chuai station because Teddy reported to Jaime it was there.

Chuai was built (or under construction) long before the "satellite" fell. Those things take awhile to build, so Tag has known it was there for awhile. There does appear to be more that one monster worldwide since the Chuai station was built just for clover/dsn (theres no oil there) but they've had a plentiful source of dsn before they started that station. So most likely, one or more of Tag's oil platforms do double duty oil drilling and harvesting dsn.

Hmm.. I wonder if that thing that fell to earth contained 'pods' like the one in the manga.. that would explain him waking and heading toward NY.. especially of that Tag Frieghter had it/them on board..
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[speculation time]
We know Ganu knew whatever it was was going to fall, he rushed the satellite up and took a risky launch to make sure it was up in time. This means the object couldn't have been part of the government satellite but something that Tag was tracking incoming and needed the geostationary satellite to track once it hit earth.

We also know whatever fell had to be vitally important to Ganu/Tagruato/the world and had to be something involving Ganu's personal power/fortunes or he wouldn't care. So it has to be related to Clover, oil, or Slusho.

We also know it has to be important to the backstory since they stressed that launch with its dramatic storm launch and Ganu's over the top speech. But after that all we hear about it is it tracking this object.

This object is what is important, so important that Tag was making sure it was the ones to recover it. Tag Scientists were tracking AND RECOVERING the piece.. that would normally be the governments job for a piece of a goverment satellite.

[historical speculation]
While looking for underwater oilfields, Ganu finds oil, and a monster nearby, and something from this monster produces the DSN. (whether its a secretion, part of the parasites, fungus from thousand year sleep, whatever, we dont know) He also finds the pod from the manga. He goes back, studies what he found and discovers its addictive and tasty properties so hooks up with his brother to make Slusho.

During this time Tag scientists determine that whatever Clover is, he's probably not of this earth, originally. Also, knowing thier dsn field is huge, but unlikely infinite, Ganu begins searching for more, having the tech from Bold Futura allows Tag to check places deep, where dark things sleep in the hollow halls beneath the swells. Letting them find at least one more place to find dsn (in the Atlantic). Probably several of thier stations produce both. (I suspect the 5 stations that all came online at the same time, may have been the first stations resulting from that search, but I havent checked the dates on those to see if they jive with the Slusho story yet).

So, the scientists are now looking skyward to see where these things are coming from and analyzing this pod until it gets stolen (and implanted in Kishin). Their study of the pod allows them to identify whatever 'signal' it uses. Later they detect this signal coming towards earth and Ganu decrees he MUST have whats coming, sets us up the satellite. pores the company resouces into grabbing what fell.

Ends up with something big that has the same signature as the pod (or is filled with them) they recover it, put it in a tanker. Clover wakes, wrecks Chuai, chases the tanker to NY...
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Animaniac wrote:


We also know whatever fell had to be vitally important to Ganu/Tagruato/the world and had to be something involving Ganu's personal power/fortunes or he wouldn't care. So it has to be related to Clover, oil, or Slusho.



The satellite that crashed in to the ocean could also be a cheap reason for Ganu to send their satellite to space, while having other reasons to send the satellite. It would be great marketing for the company too, to tell the world they were gonna look for the missing piece. (They did tell the world on a Tagruato post). But as we all know, tagruato had other reasons to send this satellite to space, it had a camera on board that makes pictures of deep sea trenches.
What im bassicly saying is, tagruato used the crashing of the satellite as a reason to send theirs to space.

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?Sander wrote:
The satellite that crashed in to the ocean could also be a cheap reason for Ganu to send their satellite to space, while having other reasons to send the satellite. It would be great marketing for the company too, to tell the world they were gonna look for the missing piece. (They did tell the world on a Tagruato post). But as we all know, tagruato had other reasons to send this satellite to space, it had a camera on board that makes pictures of deep sea trenches.
What im bassicly saying is, tagruato used the crashing of the satellite as a reason to send theirs to space.


Thier satellite was already up when the piece fell, it's not like you get a year's notice a piece is going to fall off a satellite. Sending up a satellite takes R&D and engineering and construction time.

Since it appears Tag knew it was going to happen they put thier satellite up, they must have seen it coming from further out to have time to put up the satellite. Meanwhile, after the sat is up and the object falls, they tell the world "Oh look, out of the goodness of our hearts we are helping th gov find what we are assuming is a piece of their satellite! Aren't we nice to divert out satellites attention from what we were doing, lucky our satellite happened to be up and available"
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Yeah thats what im kind of saying. It would draw the attention away from what they were doing.

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John Locke and the island played truth or dare, and the island was dared to wake up its buddy MGP

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I woke MGP up.
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People speculating about what woke me up, woke me up. It's a paradox of sorts, isn't it?

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It's so obvious what woke him up. His alarm clock. How could we have been so stupid.

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I pretty much assumed the Chuai Station had been drilling for the Slusho ingredient and disturbed Clover who was in some sort of suspended animation or hibernation state (like those plants that shut themselves down and in effect die until such a time that the environment is suitable for them again). The drilling jarred it into an unwanted state of being awake, hence how groggy/grumpy it was.

Or so it was in my mind. ;P

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Wrong.

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wait... nobody woke him up... it's a trick question. I win.


but really- 'wake him up?'

he/she/it was born... not waking up.

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