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Hilohello
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Mcgritts wrote:
Hilohello wrote:
Yes, yes, St Giles alias Egidio was fed in a cave by a hart.

And some ancient French king built a city there named Saint-Gilles-du-Gard.

I figured this out yesterday.


ok..ok.. i didnt see it posted apologies. i get excited sometimes. have you seen the painting there talking about.


...No. But going in a straight line from the Circus Maximus (built by the Etruscan kings of ancient Rome) through the Society of San'Egidio will get you to Saint-Gilles-du-Gard. So presumably that's the right place.

After that, I don't know.

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Hilohello wrote:
Mcgritts wrote:
Hilohello wrote:
Yes, yes, St Giles alias Egidio was fed in a cave by a hart.

And some ancient French king built a city there named Saint-Gilles-du-Gard.

I figured this out yesterday.


ok..ok.. i didnt see it posted apologies. i get excited sometimes. have you seen the painting there talking about.


...No. But going in a straight line from the Circus Maximus (built by the Etruscan kings of ancient Rome) through the Society of San'Egidio will get you to Saint-Gilles-du-Gard. So presumably that's the right place.

After that, I don't know.


maybe the pilgramage?

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 		Did he tell anyone else he was going to Scotland? Is that a kloo or a brushoff? :p
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Nos wrote:
Did he tell anyone else he was going to Scotland? Is that a kloo or a brushoff? :p


no i think we all got it cause we havent got the puzzle solved yet. atleast i dont...

this might be out there but what if the cat was John the baptist? hes known for representing the sign leo and he has a " second testimony" and it goes with the religous theme...


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, "This was He of whom I said, `He who comes after me has surpassed me because He was before me.'"


maybe we are supposed to be placing cricket bets? i got 5 on Uxbridge

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the town of new cross is real its also in england


yeah, i used to go there all time, but i dont miss it one bit. its in south east london, near greenwich.

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Nos wrote:
Did he tell anyone else he was going to Scotland? Is that a kloo or a brushoff? :p


He told me the same. Scotland, and back in touch Wednesday.

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 		Received an email this morning from Dirk. Heres our last bit of conversation:

From him to me
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I think you should see this. I think it someone mentioned this being the email address the clippings were sent from. What should I reply?
Dirk Folds
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From me to him:
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Hi Dirk,

I would write back asking about their intentions and who they are.It can't hurt asking. He knows who you are so it would be nice to know the other way around. Ask if theirs a message he wants to pass and why send us out there an email with you r info and underlining 'murderer' like to imply you in all this.

I will on my side write to them too asking them if its help they want or to lead us on a trail to find something. Will get back to you with an answer if I get one and please let me know what you get as an answer.

Last little thing, do you have an idea why this would be sent to you or why someone would want to be pointing at you?

Be talking to you soon,

Makyla


And this morning reply to me:
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Hello, I am going to resist replying for a few more days to try and get further with this letter. I will ask these questions when I send my reply.
Thanks,
Dirk.


Found that weird that he asks for what to write to them then goes and decides not too Confused I guess he wants us to figure out the answer from that letter and thats what he wants us to send him...for him to send to Run Rabbit. Also i had written to Run Rabbit but never got an answer.

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Are Roo G'ready?


I believe the kloo is that the letters A R G are capitalized, stating that it is inded a game and not some spam....
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 		could someone post the rabbit email...i lost mine..please.thanks?

also i think were supposed to start in hungary. and then move on.

http://www.therealpresence.org/eucharst/mir/english_pdf/Egidio.pdf

charles martel was the king of naples and also hungary but never "excersizes his rule" there....

http://books.google.com/books?id=y9MOAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA166&lpg=PA166&dq=dante++george+martel&source=web&ots=kY51PbxWWE&sig=oHyYt8QIjlFoKdADYi-5vBbjJQ8&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=4&ct=result

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1294 Dante meets Charles Martel, King of Hungary and heir to the kingdom of Naples and the country of Provence. Dante recounts their meeting in Paradiso VIII.


iv mailed dirk with this...waiting..

ps
sorry for all the edits

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Dream_Author
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Lunsford wrote:
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Are Roo G'ready?


I believe the kloo is that the letters A R G are capitalized, stating that it is inded a game and not some spam....


Yah, i figured it out in the same post, lol.

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agentgr33n wrote:
could someone post the rabbit email...i lost mine..please.thanks?

also i think were supposed to start in hungary. and then move on.

http://www.therealpresence.org/eucharst/mir/english_pdf/Egidio.pdf

charles martel was the king of naples and also hungary but never "excersizes his rule" there....

http://books.google.com/books?id=y9MOAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA166&lpg=PA166&dq=dante++george+martel&source=web&ots=kY51PbxWWE&sig=oHyYt8QIjlFoKdADYi-5vBbjJQ8&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=4&ct=result

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1294 Dante meets Charles Martel, King of Hungary and heir to the kingdom of Naples and the country of Provence. Dante recounts their meeting in Paradiso VIII.


iv mailed dirk with this...waiting..

ps
sorry for all the edits


response....

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That is a very good lead, but I am not sure how that ties in with the start of the first line, which apparently takes us to circus maximus. What does circus maximus have to do with St Giles...why would they not just say look for his cave? Also, is Turkey another empire? From my work as a P.I. I normally have to piece things together, and I think we need to see how all the clues fit together.
Yeah, I told my brother all about this, and he has been trying to solve it with me, but you seem to be having more luck. Thanks for the work.
Dirk.


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Well, I think the St. Giles Circus seems is logical, as it links the two...it says about 'cave of another empire' in the letter, if you are right in saying Turkey, is it in another empire? Where does the empire clue fit in?
Yours confusedly,
Dirk.


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golf
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 		St. Giles Circus seems to be on the right line for sure...
Also... there seems to be alot of St. Malarky.

St.Peter (cat reference) had a testimony in the bible about Jesus according to wikipedia:
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They also argue that the statement by Peter: "Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God" [41] is the foundation of the Christian faith: not Peter, but the testimony that Peter gave.


Link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Peter

Ladies and Gentlemen, I present to you St. Giles Circus, London:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=new+oxford+street&sll=51.516675,-0.144668&sspn=0.011163,0.037594&ie=UTF8&ll=51.516384,-0.130409&spn=0.002791,0.009398&z=17

If anyone wants to decipher where to go next, then feel free. Im on it now. Oh and St. Giles Circus is deadcentre, next to the tube station. Look it up on wikipedia if you want some info on it.

Edit: Hmm... come to think of it, Check out the london underground... being on ther right line has alot to do with trains...Tottenham Court is unerneath St. Giles Circus...and thats on the Central Line...

Also backing this up is an excerpt from the St. Giles Circus wikipedia page, mentioning a book written by a Peter Ackroyd:
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In the 17th and 18th centuries the area became home for migrants and developed in an unplanned manner that became known as 'the Rookery' and was notorious for its crime (the area had its own lock-up, St Giles's Roundhouse and even its own thieves' cant, St Giles' Greek). It also suffered from poverty, overcrowding and disease, with several outbreaks of plague starting there. William Hogarth depicted the area in his celebrated engraving Gin Lane. Peter Ackroyd gives a chapter to the Rookery in his biography of London.


Further research into this Peter Ackroyd character reveals him to be a writer who wrote most of his books in or around London,.
Certain books such as Hawksmoor (a murder mystery no less) might need to be taken into account, it talks of 6 churches in London. Other links to the name Hawksmoor bring up talk of his Spitalfields church being involved with Londons notorious serial killer, Jack the Ripper.

Infact there is a whole Myth behind the Hawksmoor churches... and it is a bit of a dark theory too...


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The Hawksmoor Mythos

Ackroyd based some of the ideas in his novel 'Hawksmoor' on the poem 'Lud Heat' by Iain Sinclair. In 'Lud Heat', Sinclair outlines a belief that the six churches built by Nicholas Hawksmoor during the early part of the 18th Century, and two obelisks that he designed, formed a power matrix over the London landscape. He believed that this matrix attracts to itself many dark and dreadful happenings including the Ripper murders, which happened within the shadows of these church sites.

Peter Ackroyd took this idea of the churches themselves influencing what happens around them and made this part of the intention of the architect.

The historical facts are that Nicholas Hawksmoor was a pupil of Sir Christopher Wren who designed and built St Paul's Cathedral in the City of London. Early in the 18th Century a plan was put forward to build 50 new churches this was not achieved however a number were completed and Hawksmoor, an eccentric but brilliant architect, designed sited and built six of them. They are:

St Georges - Bloomsbury; Christchurch - Spitalfields; St George in the East - Wapping; St Annes - Limehouse; St Alfeges - Greenwich; St Mary Woolnoth - Bank.

In addition he designed the obelisks of St Luke's on Old Street and St John - Horsleydown (near the south side of Tower Bridge).

The designs reflected the then increasing interest in all things Egyptian and Hawksmoor uses pyramid, obelisk and temple shapes both on the church exterior and within the church grounds. These churches could not be described as elegant rather they are built to impress and appear imposing.

In his novel, Ackroyd tells two stories simultaneously, one of the building of the churches and another a murder mystery that happens in modern times and the police investigation around it. Just to make it confusing the architect is called Nicholas Dyer and the police detective is called Hawksmoor. As the story unfolds the two characters begin to time shift and by the end of the novel coincide. However the mind of the architect is revealed. He has a tragic childhood where he witnessed the death of his family and many others during the time of the Black Death. While still a boy Nicholas Dyer falls in with one of the many strange religious cults that did flourish in England at this time. This particular cult worships the dark god, the God of Death. They believe that evil is only avoided by committing acts of evil and that the human body is an abomination etc. This belief is similar in some respects to the Gnostic beliefs of the Cathars and Albigensians. Dyer intends to have his six churches as secret temples to this god and built into the designs hints as to their true purpose. In order to consecrate them each must have a human sacrifice. As time goes on Dyer becomes increasing paranoid and slips into madness convinced that his enemies are everywhere and about to expose him.

The book itself is a creepy read and well worth reading, as is Lud Heat for those interested in the London landscape and its dark history. However a number of points in the book seemed linked with the Re-birth Motif. As the snake sloughs off his skin to reveal a rejuvenated membrane underneath, so death is the pre-curser to new life. However Dyer is stuck with the symbol of death as his god. The architect is desperately in need of re-birth himself, his obsession with death and the horror of life is preventing him from recognizing that life is made up of both dark and light, horror and joy etc. He is trapped by the enormity of the horror he witnessed and even his name 'Dyer' may indicate that he is the one that must die in order to be re-born. . Dyer seems to be caught up in a recreation of that horror and he tries to sate this urge by raising new temples to resurrect the 'old gods'. He uses human sacrifice to consecrate the churches. The nature of sacrifice is 'to make sacred' only he uses others instead of himself. The thwarting of the true aim of the Rebirth symbol in order to prevent his own 'ego death' produces guilt that creates a feeling of persecution and he sinks into madness as a result.

If you take a map of London and mark out the six churches and two obelisks you can comfortably draw an 'Eye of Horus' by joining up the dots. The name 'Hawks - moor' the hawk being the bird of Horus and the term 'moor' being the old fashioned name for one of north African (Berber), or Middle Eastern background. Horus is the child of Osiris (fertility), and Isis (magic) and his eyes represent both sun and moon. Both orbs are connected with the death-rebirth motif.


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 		So St Giles Circus looks promising, with the "cave" possibly pointing to the underground station....nice work all!

I have attempted to follow the directions for the tube; 1 stop north, 2 south etc, but it really doesn't look right. *Sigh*
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veebee wrote:
So St Giles Circus looks promising, with the "cave" possibly pointing to the underground station....nice work all!

I have attempted to follow the directions for the tube; 1 stop north, 2 south etc, but it really doesn't look right. *Sigh*



another stop o your tube could be kensington see the lords cat was a regular at the cricket ground known as lords this ground is named the kesington oval i think this is also a stop on the underground hope this helps and by the way i am glad to see another tinfoil hat "Foily!"

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 		What I dont understand is going 1 north and 2 south on any map will mean you are going 1 south, and trying to follow those instructions on the tubemap is extremely confusing and doesnt really work.

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