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ecwilder · Guest

my last one unless i stumble upon other things... i was checking what 'it' could be.. so i checked metadex under beth and phillip to see if they discussed getting something..

i see that phillip asks for an ETA w/ the others ... i .e. when they/d meet? be on?

but other than that.. all signs would point that phillip and beth HAVE NOT been 'unplugged'.... so if we're too assume ALSO contains 'little boxes', then we're to assume that everyone in this hacker meeting has not been unplugged?

i'm sure i'll have more soon.

**Posted:** Wed Oct 08, 2003 9:25 pm

Marl64

Re: Mello = MLO?

**Posted:** Wed Oct 08, 2003 9:29 pm

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dont know what it could mean but phillip gairden is a DR.

**Posted:** Wed Oct 08, 2003 9:33 pm

Dyslxic3 · Boot Joined: 07 Oct 2003 Posts: 23 Location: Bay Area, CA

hate to throw the fanboy element into this, but doesn't a bunch of still-plugged-in people conspiring to uncover the nature of the matrix jive with the story we've heard about these characters and what all unplugged characters were up to before being unplugged (e.g. Trinity's tracks in Detective Story, Neo at the computer at the start of M1, etc.)? They were seeking out the nature of the matrix. It sounds like Beth and others are stringing together the apocalypse stories and paranormal activity had their teasers out to attract others but that they have a whole operations side of hackers out against their matrix world manifestations of the matrix admin (Metacortex, etc.), which was made out to be much like Microsoft.

Now that I read that, maybe I'm saying nothing new. The assumption is that those logged in include Beth, etc. If they have these clandestine means, why would she bother communicating with her routine email about the missing man (Avery), when she could communicate under cover?

**Posted:** Wed Oct 08, 2003 9:34 pm

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ecwilder · Guest

MLO is 100% not Mello. if im wrong may i die tomorrow. mello talks like a 14 yr old keaunu reaves and MLO is a manager at a software company... furthermore, i dont think ANYONE we're 'friends' w/ at metacortex are part of this hacker gang. doesnt it seem like all these people are unplugged?
beth and phillip are definitely not unplugged... they find so many things wrong w/ the world that would easily be explained if you knew its the matrix...

seems to me like the hackers meeting up are definitely unplugged.

also to clear up my above statement, its fairly obvious to me that in pgairdens message at metadex to beth he's asking the ETA for her other files that she had lost.

**Posted:** Wed Oct 08, 2003 9:37 pm

ecwilder · Guest

alright Dyslxic3, i kind of concede... although im open to both possibilities, it seems highly probable that this hacker gang is a group of people trying to figure out whats up.... but then what are they meeting up to attack? perhaps Caesar is unplugged....

lets say for instance... James Avery happened to be anomaly 0 and so he gets pulled out... we have our Caesar.... then he picks his 14 females and 7 males or whatnot... could this hacker thing be a recruiting program??? only the smartest can figure out the clues and thus reach the summit and become unplugged???

**Posted:** Wed Oct 08, 2003 9:43 pm

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**Posted:** Wed Oct 08, 2003 9:43 pm

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ecwilder · Guest

1c=the one, caesar Wink

lol

**Posted:** Wed Oct 08, 2003 9:44 pm

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**Posted:** Wed Oct 08, 2003 9:46 pm

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Re: Overall Game Scenario

**Posted:** Wed Oct 08, 2003 9:47 pm

ecwilder · Guest

griffinmill, i had thought that at one time too in the haze of all this info at once.... but that makes no sense considering the Cascade Vortex, the floating cat, the backwards fish, the 'grids' for hikers... etc. we are definitely in the matrix.[/url]

**Posted:** Wed Oct 08, 2003 9:50 pm

Dyslxic3 · Boot Joined: 07 Oct 2003 Posts: 23 Location: Bay Area, CA

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No, my argument's got holes, too.

In the 2nd movie, Niobe *calls* Link when she gets close. She doesn't enter the Matrix, then communicate. Though everyone meets face to face in the tunnels at the beginning of M2, it's not so way out that they'd interface by computer. Heck, maybe it prevent's having to jack in and place themselves at risk (by hacking in from an operator's chair). But there's 1) not good evidence that those obviously plugged in (Beth) are part of this "baker's dozen and then some" and 2) that they know whether the matrix exists or not. I fully accept any obvious evidence to the contrary I've missed. Trout away and end the torture.

Determining their objective is important. But if we're waiting until the 10th, you've got to wonder how they'll past the next 2 days of time. We got thrown a *load* of clues today. Maybe so we stopped dwelling on minutiae. The Dogma-luncheon thing is killing me. Most anagram engines don't narrow long phrases too well to a reasonable list of choices. Anyone have a good anagram program for that message?

**Posted:** Wed Oct 08, 2003 9:50 pm

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ecwilder · Guest

and my 'avery being the one' theory.... i dunno where to stand on it ONLY because of 'andersonthomas' being no longer an employee at metacortex.... does that situate us in the timeline? shouldnt it?

**Posted:** Wed Oct 08, 2003 9:51 pm

Marl64

**Posted:** Wed Oct 08, 2003 9:55 pm

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ecwilder · Guest

13th Floor? are we the first 'reload' of the matrix to 'load' a matrix?

**Posted:** Wed Oct 08, 2003 9:56 pm