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[Email] James Mutters - 30 June 2008
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 		Here's an image of where my start points were. I'm now trying with the start point at the first corner. We'll see how that goes.
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ariock wrote:
Here's an image of where my start points were. I'm now trying with the start point at the first corner. We'll see how that goes.

By the way, the voicemail says the outmost "path", not the wall. That might mean we have to reduce the distance by half of the width of the path.

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unagi wrote:
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"here" was this forum thread. so that you could be caught up on what was going on.

I'm very sorry. I made a big mistake.


ah. no. I am sorry for the misunderstanding. I'm sorry for wasting your time. It was my fault.
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 		I added to the map the entrance of the Natinal Science Museum. There are three buildings in the Museum (two of them are big), so I think the entrance should mean the entrance of the whole Museum.

I think we can define the exact destination, because the labyrinth width was given 26,183 stadias, not 26 stadias.

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unagi wrote:
I added to the map the entrance of the Natinal Science Museum. There are three buildings in the Museum (two of them are big), so I think the entrance should mean the entrance of the whole Museum.

I think we can define the exact destination, because the labyrinth width was given 26,183 stadias, not 26 stadias.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal
"In English-speaking and many Asian countries, a period (.) is used as the decimal separator; in many other languages, a comma is used."

That's why I've assumed that it's 26.183 stadia, anyway. It may be 26183 stadia.
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 		Highest may also mean the tallest building...
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 		Which part of the labyrinth is meant by "the first turn on the left"?

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Which part of the labyrinth is meant by "the first turn on the left"?

AUZ thought it was here, and I can't find any fault with that.

Ok. assuming the "entrance" is at the first corner, and that the "entrance" is the stairs going up to the Science Museum itself, I've drawn the outer edge of a 7-circuit on the map. I've put red pins where there appear to be large buildings. Maybe that's the meaning of "Highest Point" but I don't know.

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 		Wow. I am reading and following your discussion in awe. So great to have all this expertise gathered on the forum. However, we should not forget that we might be running out of time and should hurry to solve this problem, find the ring (and hopefully get a clue to the next one's location!) ...

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However, we should not forget that we might be running out of time and should hurry to solve this problem, find the ring (and hopefully get a clue to the next one's location!) ...

I agree with you. And some people in Noriko's forum want to look for the ring this Sunday.

Thanks to the email from James to dreamerblue, now Noriko's forum has a thread for the second ring, and several people are discussing there.

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 		Double post.

1. "Au premier tournant à gauche" should be "with the left turning first", and this phrase describes the handedness of the labyrinth. It's not a point.

2. Not the seventh position, but the seventh circuit. The armenian word յոթերորդ (it sounds like "yoterord") meaning "seventh" is followed by the word which sounds exactly "circuit". Armenian words meaning position or point don't sound like this, as far as I have investigated.

3. In the French translation, there's no phrase meaning "the entrance of the Museum of National Sciences". Just "the Museum of National Sciences".

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unagi wrote:
Double post.

1. "Au premier tournant à gauche" should be "with the left turning first", and this phrase describes the handedness of the labyrinth. It's not a point.

2. Not the seventh position, but the seventh circuit. The armenian word յոթերորդ (it sounds like "yoterord") meaning "seventh" is followed by the word sounds exactly "circuit". Armenian words meaning position or point don't sound like this, as far as I have investigated.

3. In the French translation, there's no phrase meaning "the entrance of the Museum of National Sciences". Just "the Museum of National Sciences".


wow. great work.

So what are your thoughts? You know the map is publicly editable, so feel free to delete any points you like. Where are you thinking the start point should be? If you figure out which circuit it should be, I can make another ring of points similar to the one I did before to make locating likely destinations easier.
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unagi wrote:
Double post.

1. "Au premier tournant à gauche" should be "with the left turning first", and this phrase describes the handedness of the labyrinth. It's not a point.

2. Not the seventh position, but the seventh circuit. The armenian word յոթերորդ (it sounds like "yoterord") meaning "seventh" is followed by the word sounds exactly "circuit". Armenian words meaning position or point don't sound like this, as far as I have investigated.

3. In the French translation, there's no phrase meaning "the entrance of the Museum of National Sciences". Just "the Museum of National Sciences".



Wow okay so putting this together in a cleaned up version with the rest of the translation (just because I like to see it all complete):

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The former location of ring number 2 is 8644 stadia in the direction of Artemis 11 from Omphalos n°3.
I moved it from there 5176 stadia in the direction of Ares 12.
The ring has today been restituted/given back/returned from the seventh circuit towards the highest point of the outmost path of the (Zakynthos ? Hakynthos ?).
With the left turning first, 26.183 stadias wide from one end to the other, there where the entrance to the labyrinth is also the Museum of National Sciences, in the direction of Aphrodite (n° ?) 5.
When you're done, before taking the next step, before giving the ring, you must give its owner (keeper ?) the password.


Does that seem right so far? I've marked in italics the bits that still seem really uncertain to me.

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The ring has today been restituted/given back/returned from the seventh circuit towards the highest point of the outmost path of the (Zakynthos ? Hakynthos ?).


Babelfishing the french version with my correction:

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The ring has today restored/returned/turned over successfully since (or " towards là" recording bad, but more probable " depuis") 7th circuit towards the culminating point of the path most external of " Zakynthos?? Hakynthos?? ".

And I think "towards" is the correct translation from the context.

And ariock, I think the first version of your map was basically correct. I mean, starting from the National Science Museum, going one path width towards 335 degrees, then 12.0/12.5/13.0/13.5 path widths towards 245 degrees. It depends on the definition of the entrance of the labyrinth and the choice of outmost path or outmost wall.

But I would like to wait before making conclusion ... I want to listen to the voicemail more.

EDIT: I made a mistake, not 12.0/12.5/13.0/13.5, but 11.0/11.5/12.0/12.5.

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 		Today I'm sorry for being busy, and I could transcribed only several words last evening ....

oh օղակ (ring)այժմ (now) հաջող(successful)cha, baffazei յոթերորդ(seventh) circuit.
ah printo see ամենա(most), արտաքին(external)araetie, ahpanahkentin.

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