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[PUZZLE] Message from the Lost Rings
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Canzonett
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 		Has anyone already officially informed Eli, James & Co. about this?

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Ch. 25 wrote:
We know how small the number of parallel worlds must fall to,

So the second line might be:
Quote:
Travel! The world must align almost perfectly. calculate the goal - it's the sum of the labyrinth under the 7-circuit

So the number of parallel worlds must fall to eight, possibly.

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Ch.25 wrote:
We now know how far the last labyrinth must be from the site of the opening ceremony.
We know how many circuits to construct.
We know where we six must stand when the time comes to go home.
We know how small the number of parallel worlds must fall to, how firmly connected the ring of six must become, before we can pass through the door.


My current translation speculation of the sixth ring wrote:
Six athletes fulfill eleven by drawing a 7-circuit labyrinth forty stadia away from the opening ceremonies.
Travel! The world must align almost perfectly. calculate the goal - it's the sum of the labyrinth under the 7-circuit.
Return to your home during the closing ceremonies! Flare! Find the most proximal monumental wave through which you can voyage!


So the answers are:
- forty stadia away from the site of the opening ceremony
- 7-circuit labyrinth
- 6 athletes fulfill 11 (?)
- the number of parallel worlds must fall to 8
- the 6 global simultaneous labyrinth runners must align almost perfectly

EDIT: an 11-circuit labyrinth might be necessary.

EDIT 2: Not my current translation, but my current speculation.

EDIT 3: Travel! in the second line is wrong, since it's not a command grammatically.

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danteIL
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unagi wrote:

My current translation of the sixth ring wrote:
Six athletes fulfill eleven by drawing a 7-circuit labyrinth forty stadia away from the opening ceremonies.
Travel! The world must align almost perfectly. calculate the goal - it's the sum of the labyrinth under the 7-circuit.
Return to your home during the closing ceremonies! Flare! Find the most proximal monumental wave through which you can voyage!


Wait, are you basing this translation on an actual translation, or a generous reading of what you think it means? I don't see how you get "sum of the sport below the highest limit" to be "sum of the labyrinth under the 7-circuit." PLUS the number of parallel worlds falling to 8 (from 99X10^194993???? -- that's a big drop!).

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danteIL wrote:
Wait, are you basing this translation on an actual translation, or a generous reading of what you think it means?

The latter. I should have said my current speculation.

danteIL wrote:
I don't see how you get "sum of the sport below the highest limit" to be "sum of the labyrinth under the 7-circuit." PLUS the number of parallel worlds falling to 8 (from 99X10^194993???? -- that's a big drop!).

Yes, that's the biggest problem. I calculated from the circuit numbers of 3-circuit and 5-circuit, but I'm not sure.

Do you have any idea?

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 		Well I like "forty stadia" from the opening ceremonies. For "VETKURADOJ" I was getting something like 'runnings' -- which could certainly be 'stadia' -- it would make sense that Jorge and Co couldn't come out and include 'stadia' on the 5 rings since that would have seemed out of place on the sculpture.

I also agree that a 11-circuit labyrinth seems like a possible interpretation, but again, I would question why Jorge and Co would emphasize training for the 7-circuit labyrinth so much if the knew that ultimately an 11-circuit would be needed.

I still have no idea what "goal" we're supposed to calculate is, though...

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 		just curious why KVIN, KAJ UNA "five and one" is now translated as six?

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unagi
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jasper wrote:
just curious why KVIN, KAJ UNA "five and one" is now translated as six?

Well, that's also my speculation. I'm comparing the message with Ch.25.

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jasper wrote:
just curious why KVIN, KAJ UNA "five and one" is now translated as six?

I think another reason is that we are adding 5 plus 1 to get six. And we have a thing for 6's in this Lost Sport - six amnesiacs, six strengths.

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 		I emailed my thoughts to Eli, and got a reply:
Mr. Eli Hunt wrote:
Hello Unagi,

I will continue to do research to help inform our understanding of these clues.

I have proposed to James that we conduct a collaborative
puzzle-solving session online next week, once all of the rings are at
a single, secure location.

Perhaps you will join us? I will be ready, and hopefully you and other
members of our team will be prepared with their own theories and
interpretations.

Sincerely yours,

Eli Hunt


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jasper wrote:
just curious why KVIN, KAJ UNA "five and one" is now translated as six?


Five original athletes plus one MARKUS!
Maybe it was not such a bad thing after all that Theo managed to replace the team's original Thumos with him? Maybe Markus is absolutely essential for the completion of our big mission, not although but BECAUSE he is not the original Thumos?!

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Canzonett wrote:
jasper wrote:
just curious why KVIN, KAJ UNA "five and one" is now translated as six?


Five original athletes plus one MARKUS!
Maybe it was not such a bad thing after all that Theo managed to replace the team's original Thumos with him? Maybe Markus is absolutely essential for the completion of our big mission, not although but BECAUSE he is not the original Thumos?!


That's the first thing I thought of, as well. Everything happens as it's meant to!
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unagi wrote:
I emailed my thoughts to Eli, and got a reply:
Mr. Eli Hunt wrote:
Hello Unagi,

I will continue to do research to help inform our understanding of these clues.

I have proposed to James that we conduct a collaborative
puzzle-solving session online next week, once all of the rings are at
a single, secure location.

Perhaps you will join us? I will be ready, and hopefully you and other
members of our team will be prepared with their own theories and
interpretations.

Sincerely yours,

Eli Hunt


An online session would be awesome...I hope you guys have fun with that! I will be on vacation and won't likely be able to participate (unless it's in the evening and we're just kicking around a hotel that evening, but there will be family and friends and sights to see some nights).

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Canzonett wrote:
jasper wrote:
just curious why KVIN, KAJ UNA "five and one" is now translated as six?


Five original athletes plus one MARKUS!
Maybe it was not such a bad thing after all that Theo managed to replace the team's original Thumos with him? Maybe Markus is absolutely essential for the completion of our big mission, not although but BECAUSE he is not the original Thumos?!


What about James? Five original travelers plus one that has never traveled the worlds before. Maybe Toria knew something we don't when she left 4 years ago unexpectedly. The "five plus one" (I keep thinking of it like a party invitation and of Foggy's little "I'm a plus one" speech in Daredevil) sounds like it would refer to someone inexperienced to me.

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 		Team Esseff received an email from James regarding getting the five rings in one place with us (and I am officially inviting anyone else out there who can come--I know it is very short notice) to go over them.

James Mutters wrote:

Hey Team Essef!
...

I'm emailing because Kai and I are working on collecting all 5 rings to San Francisco. Barring anything unforseen, I'm hoping to have them all together by the end of next week. Would you all be available on that Saturday or Sunday afternoon to go over them?
I'm thinking 1pm either Saturday the 9th or Sunday the 10th.
Also, I thought it would be cool to webcast our session on Seero so that people from around the world can tune in. I was even chatting with Eli Hunt earlier and he said he'd be interested in watching and he could lend us his expertise as needed via chat.

I am only available on Sunday, August 10th and, fortunately for me, it looks like that will be the chosen day. Very Happy
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