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clairenor
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 		Looking at all the red text, if this is our rosette stone to decode something then it sorta makes sense that I,T and NG have been omitted.

If there is something yet to come to decode (I think) then this is our "Doyon futhark" and it is not quite true to the original. therefore the T is omitted because it has be used in place of what should be "th" The I has been moved to what should be the I (with two dots on top) and original I omitted, And the "NG" omitted because you don't need it in the english language. Does that make any sense.....

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Leyton Stone wrote:
Guys I might be stating a completely obvious point here but.

drejl wrote:
One of the possibilities is that these three make up coordinates: 11 - 17 -22 as suggested in a previous post....


Using drejl's comment here as a pinpoint.

Would it not be a good idea [and JUST a suggestion which is probably going to go nowhere] To calculate and try combining, the already found co-ord's we have to which we previously have found no use for, to this Alphabet?


Apparently the -36.270, -111.722 led to a point between Chili and N.Z.

As for converting 36.270 to Elder Futhark..

THKUG 0... since there is no letter for 0 in Futhark.. Might have misunderstood what you meant though.

Edit: I really like that point Clai; it does make a lot of sense with the English language. Nice one.

Mibbit.com Think Tank Chat up and running again in #btyc

Edit2: Continueing onto Clai's point: does this mean that were are looking for numbers that need be translated into letters by the use of the Futhark circle?... Did Adam mention any numbers in his letter?

This also makes Leyton's suggestion about the coordinates more plausible.

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 		I'm probably off the mark but here is my guess.

If you look at the main image, the sections highlighted look like a compass, I can never remember which was round east and west go Confused , but the one remaining is translated as B.

So according to our "Rosetta Stone" you would have J,Y B D C,K

So what does everyone else think of my little theory because I'm stuck with what to do with it Embarassed

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clairenor wrote:
If there is something yet to come to decode (I think) then this is our "Doyon futhark" and it is not quite true to the original. therefore the T is omitted because it has be used in place of what should be "th" The I has been moved to what should be the I (with two dots on top) and original I omitted, And the "NG" omitted because you don't need it in the english language. Does that make any sense.....

Yeah that makes sense - though maybe French, not English given our PM. I get the feeling that there's something to come as well, because right now we have a rosetta stone but no runes to decode that work.

I guess I'll reread the letters - maybe there's information in there that we need... but other than that I'll think and wait for BG or EP to get back to us.

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 		Coming from another direction:
If we have TH . I, NG missing we might end at THING, the germanian assembly of the eldest. Maybe we can find the numeric equivalents for each rune and get a four digit from it?
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fabs wrote:
Coming from another direction:
If we have TH . I, NG missing we might end at THING, the germanian assembly of the eldest. Maybe we can find the numeric equivalents for each rune and get a four digit from it?
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11 - 17 - 22
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gott-sei-dank wrote:
If you look at the main image, the sections highlighted look like a compass, I can never remember which was round east and west go , but the one remaining is translated as B.

So according to our "Rosetta Stone" you would have J,Y B D C,K


In Futhark:
C,K (6), J,Y (12), B (18) D (as 24 [23 is also possible])

There seems to be a number sequence there: 6 6 6 6
Coincidence? Unlikely.

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 		Yeah that pretty much was what I meant... But, in actual Futhark alphabet, the xx together doesn't equal to NG, G has it's own lettering [x] as does N [it's like the I with a small diagonoal line through the middle from left to right]

See below.

Although Edit: I'm now seeing the resemblence in that mark and the x being together so nvm lol
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Leyton Stone wrote:
Yeah that pretty much was what I meant... But, in actual Futhark alphabet, the xx together doesn't equal to NG, G has it's own lettering [x] as does N [it's like the I with a small diagonoal line through the middle from left to right]

See below.

Although Edit: I'm now seeing the resemblence in that mark and the x being together so nvm lol


Yeah I was just about to point out that the 'missing' rune in the picture is the one for Ng. :/

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Eleanora Plante is reading www.polycystin.com.


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What a great surprise, the decryption services are back!

I am currently reading all the letter Adam left me. C'est simplement incroyable! Still, it's a puzzling mix of emotions, the felling I am about to uncover the truth but also a feeling that Adam is lost…

I took a look at that "Rosetta Stone" that Adam left us. From what I understand, our 3 clues are bound to 3 runes as the fourth clue is bound to another rune...

J/Y for the first, C/K for the second, D for the third and F or A for the last, I'm not sure. I think the Rosetta reference is a way of telling us to focus on the letter themselves, not their runic values.

I keep you posted if I found anything else.


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In 1814, the Briton Thomas Young finished translating the enchorial (demotic) text, and began work on the hieroglyphic script. From 1822 to 1824 the French scholar, philologist and orientalist Jean-François Champollion greatly expanded on this work and is credited as the principal translator of the Rosetta Stone. Champollion could read both Greek and Coptic, and figured out what the seven Demotic signs in Coptic were. By looking at how these signs were used in Coptic, he worked out what they meant. Then he traced the Demotic signs back to hieroglyphic signs. By working out what some hieroglyphs stood for, he made educated guesses about what the other hieroglyphs meant.[2]


The above was the last thing that came to mind... Perhaps we have to use the same technique...

JY: "Year, fruitful time of the year"
KC: Old English cen "ulcer", Old Norse kaun "torch"
D : "Day"
A : In Old Norse, áss (or ǫ́ss, ás, plural æsir, feminine ásynja, feminine plural ásynjur) is the term denoting one of the principal gods of the pantheon of Norse paganism.
F : "Money, wealth, cattle"

Based on the theory that the yellow cross would lead to a fourth clue if the right arm was finished, also the descirption of the Rune the fourth arm would land on: B.

B: "Birch twig"

Trying to mold that into a sentence (like 'Within this year, this day was lit on fire and revealed true wealth')... Reminds me of prose/poetry. Someone mentioned Shakespeare's sonnets before.

Going to leave it there. drejl needs sleep.

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 		New post...
Nice little message from Doyon to put everyone in a homicidal mood:
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Tic Toc Tic Toc...


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 		Re: New post...
drejl wrote:
Nice little message from Doyon to put everyone in a homicidal mood:
BTYC Facebook wrote:
YellowCurtain wrote
at 5:52am
Tic Toc Tic Toc...


I dream of Jeannie stuffing Mr. Doyen/Doyon with black licorice, and then setting it on fire, with his limbs restrained, while a midget with a gun gets trigger happy. *spazz*
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 		New link in the first clues text,

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
clicking on 500,000 leads you to

http://www.polycystin.com/Certificate.php


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clairenor wrote:
New link in the first clues text,

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
clicking on 500,000 leads you to

http://www.polycystin.com/Certificate.php


Great work Clai!
... Now I shall stare.

c14SPLATonlinehome.us (invalid e-mail adres)

and website at bottom: http://s163975027.onlinehome.us/

which when inserting the right NZA number (23887) leads to the same document again: http://s163975027.onlinehome.us/certificate-2008B05-893471A.php


On the Certificate.php link the findings state <<500 000 B.C. while on the second (near identical) document the findings state 0 - 2008.

First findings seem to corelate with E.P.'s letter:
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I did not have any detail, but I understand that he was refering to runic inscriptions which, by their attendance, eliminated any possibility that this stone dating back to the Paleolithic age (3 million years to 12 000 years before Jesus Christ).
Worse! he had already sent a sample to test the carbon 14 dating , the results would make him the laughing stock of the university for at least the next session.


... How come the results changed?
Or does that have to do with the whole alternate reality Lovecraft theme? (spec of course)

... On another note: the phone number (0064 7 838 4278).. Well.. It exists.. And of course I hung up the moment it rang. xD

Edit: The phone number exists because, well, Dr. Alan Hogg is an actual person working for the Waikato University with his own room, fax number, phone number, e-mail adres (which is the only thing that was slightly changed on our documents), website (http://www.radiocarbondating.com/), and issues with firefox...

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 		University of Waikato, no wonder he didn't get anything done, heh. Don't worry drejl - no one would be there to answer your call at this time.

I'm guessing the "official" version has the results fudged to make them consistent with the rune markings, while Adam has the "real" ones?

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Zephonith wrote:
University of Waikato, no wonder he didn't get anything done, heh. Don't worry drejl - no one would be there to answer your call at this time.

I'm guessing the "official" version has the results fudged to make them consistent with the rune markings, while Adam has the "real" ones?


At least I had the guts to call.. xD

Either Adam does have the official document or he went mental and changed the official document... (The first one probably benefits the storyline more).

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 		Yeah I probably phrased that poorly. My take on this is that they analysed it, gave Adam the results that said 500,000BC, then realised the results were crazy so changed the ones in their archive. So that now only Adam has proof that he's not crazy.

I'm not entirely sure how this helps us though.

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