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XtRaVa

On that pic, the doll type thing tilted to the left (and it definitely is humanoid, u can see the arm and face) reminds me a lot of similar statue type sculptures I found while searching through one of Kat's photography sites. Also, I'm sure the horse "Red Ace" has something to do with something, the ace of hearts perhaps? we have already seen a red heart in the pic, and we have seen the research commenting on animals (including horses) missing organs...such as hearts...i may be forcing these links...but you know the feeling you get when you look at a picture, and think "that means something". I mean the picture where its a sign saying No Tres Passing (mentioned on one site by someone saying why do i always spell that sign wrong (obvious clue that it means something)) turned out to be her password "notrespassing" for metadex...well I got that feeling when looking at the horse called Red Ace, and the sculptures of people. [nevermind] Damned thing is I cant find the pics now, I'm gonna go searching now, ill update if i find them. [/nevermind]

Right got em...theres a few (these are all found on the sites that clicking the photography link on kats bio take u too...every time u refresh its a different site)

sonnys red ace
http://www.pbase.com/image/20468850

(the horse)

no red hunting
http://www.pbase.com/image/22357617

(strange picture)

stanfields wrestlers
http://www.pbase.com/image/13022580

(looks similar to the strange doll thing on the 1st pic, but prolly isnt the same thing)

ovid
http://picture-poems.com/week2/ovid.html
(dunno why im posting this, just seems of interest)

the red trapper
http://www.pbase.com/image/6315947
(another pic based on the colour red, just posting for interest)

notrespassing
http://www.kobotica.com/online/fotodiary/usa/countryside/_gallery/dp022-9426-no-trespassing.html
(example of the notrespassing pics that revealed her password...on almost every site that loads, you will quickly see or find a notrespassing sign, and one which has ppl talking about the bottom making a point about notrespassing)

http://www.kobotica.com/online/fotodiary/usa/countryside/
(this one has pics of horses and cows and that notrespassing sign, this one is weird...because there is literally hundreds of pics, including loads of some weird looking guy...its really hard to tell if any of these sites have been made by the makers of the ARG, or whether they have just linked them to kats bio to show the multiple notrespassing signs...thing is, on the kobotica one, theres a bit where u try to click personal pics, and u need a login and password...not sure if this is part of the game, or someones actual photography site...maybe someone can find out)

anyway, few things to look and think about, XtRaVa
XtRaVa

**Posted:** Sat Oct 25, 2003 4:49 pm

Toast · Boot Joined: 17 Oct 2003 Posts: 40

This is kind of a long shot, but...could it have anything to do with the song by the Indigo Girls - Least Complicated?

The song lyrics - warning, pop-ups galore

Beth quotes the song, the band's her password...it's about the "hardest to learn" being the "least complicated". The other parallel is "It's more than just eye to eye learn things I could never apply".

Okay. This is really stretching it, right?

Marl64

**Posted:** Sun Oct 26, 2003 6:53 am

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Toast · Boot Joined: 17 Oct 2003 Posts: 40

Ahhhh! Sorry! *has pop-up blocker and uses Mozilla*

Um, right...

This should be pop-up free.

**Posted:** Sun Oct 26, 2003 7:32 am

Rednaxella · Boot Joined: 27 Oct 2003 Posts: 18

New theory

**Posted:** Mon Oct 27, 2003 6:32 pm

Azathoth666

I just wanna throw my 2 cents in. So I will. Hee!

This isn't really anything to do with the posts directly preceeding me here, but I just reviewed this whole thread today... Yes I was bored... and a lot of us are crossing wires trying to get this one solved...

Paintover is (was???) run by Ceasar and our happy hacker krewe. I think the bulk of us are satisfied that Beth, Marcus, Kat and most of the Metacortex characters aren't the hackers: primarily because we have more hacker characters than Metacortex characters, but also because we've seen how both groups communicate, and they don't correlate.

It's a pretty safe bet then, that whatever meaning (if there really is one) that is hiding in the bl##%! October 1 picture is a pointer to an early hacker dialog, (similar to everything we've seen at the Aquapolis, Little Boxes, Metacortechs.com etc...) and is unrelated to Beth and her Metacortex login, Marcus and his, Kat and hers etc etc.

Seeing as the story has progressed so far despite this thorn in our side, the best we can hope for is that this will give us some back story into the group dynamic of Ceasar, Texel, Scratch and co.... I'm not suggesting that we drop the issue, it's become far too annoying now to drop... what we need to do though is remember that the secret to this puzzle, and whatever it is masking is not Beth-related. IMHO, anyway.

You may tie me to a chair and beat me with a hat if I'm wrong. It's happened before (the being wrong, not the chair-tied-hat-beating).

Very Happy

**Posted:** Mon Oct 27, 2003 8:19 pm

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Moatie · Boot Joined: 17 Oct 2003 Posts: 52

was looking at the links fro katgirls photography site, thinking a clue may have been placed here for unsolved puzzle...

http://www.pbase.com/shaun/farm_life

there is a bit of comments/dialog:

From: Shaun Lowe Date: 20-Oct-2003 19:04
I don't know, I did as well... Wink

Thanks.

From: flavin Date: 19-Oct-2003 19:04
i mean, no trespassing. why do i always spell that wrong? oh, and nice photos!

From: Shaun Lowe Date: 01-Oct-2003 12:40
Thank you!

From: harfang Date: 29-Sep-2003 03:33
nice, you have an eye for the view. merci!

Moatie

**Posted:** Mon Oct 27, 2003 11:11 pm

joebrent

Well, couple of things interesting about that page -

First, these pictures:

and even this one:

Shoot, now I'm seeing clouds all over the place. Maybe it's nothing. But...

Who is flavin -

**Posted:** Mon Oct 27, 2003 11:26 pm

trip · Veteran Joined: 17 Oct 2003 Posts: 128

**Posted:** Tue Oct 28, 2003 12:42 am

Moatie · Boot Joined: 17 Oct 2003 Posts: 52

**Posted:** Tue Oct 28, 2003 8:26 am

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Styles · Boot Joined: 07 Oct 2003 Posts: 32

Just to throw something else in the mix that I don't think has been mentioned before, but Lewis Carroll's (who wrote "Alice") real name is Charles Dodgson.

**Posted:** Tue Oct 28, 2003 9:00 am

trip · Veteran Joined: 17 Oct 2003 Posts: 128

That's funny that they deleted me. <sarcasm>My comment was so witty and photography related!</sarcasm>

So first off, I want to say that I TOTALLY do not believe that what I am about to tell you is game related. I personally believe that the PMs will make sure that all game-related sites will have USH on them. Of course, the PMs seem to link to non-USH sites that may have clues on them, but, I still don't think that this has anything to do with clues.

But, it is still interesting.

So, the site we're talking about is pbase.com. pbase.com is registered to "Chaos Fugue" with an e-mail address of @chaosfugue.org.

If you go to http://chaosfugue.org, there is a link called "gravity simulation." (Here: http://chaosfugue.org/swirl/index.html ). Check it out. It looks remarkably similiar to the WHOMP and TINY FEET images. (Though, not quite similar enough to tell us about the origins of those images.)

Also, another interesting thing, in the bottom left-hand corner of that chaosfugue.org web site, there is a link to a photo gallery called "Gallery23" which is a tribute to the number 23. Some interesting comments there as well.

None of which I think has anything to do with the game. Wink

**Posted:** Tue Oct 28, 2003 9:50 am

Marauder · Veteran Joined: 25 Oct 2003 Posts: 123

**Posted:** Tue Oct 28, 2003 7:36 pm

Marl64

**Posted:** Tue Oct 28, 2003 7:48 pm

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