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Astaldo · Boot Joined: 29 Oct 2003 Posts: 17 Location: Germany

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**Posted:** Fri Oct 31, 2003 6:08 am

AdrenalinDave · Boot Joined: 28 Oct 2003 Posts: 39

Hidden Meaning

**Posted:** Fri Oct 31, 2003 6:34 am

joebrent

This is a poem by Quincy Troupe, who is best known for being Miles Davis's ghost writer:

**Posted:** Fri Oct 31, 2003 6:47 am

anima · Boot Joined: 19 Oct 2003 Posts: 24 Location: bulgaria

I do not know if it is in any way related to the game, but one of the Google results for "the other side of waking" turns out a document, some kind of a log between three characters. The contributions of one of them are highlighted in red:

http://www.redbrick.dcu.ie/~doc/MUCK/logs/midori/midori10.html

**Posted:** Fri Oct 31, 2003 8:22 am

AdrenalinDave · Boot Joined: 28 Oct 2003 Posts: 39

She Is refering to ASP Dr Leo Kane

**Posted:** Fri Oct 31, 2003 8:53 am

Cyfre · Boot Joined: 25 Oct 2003 Posts: 63 Location: Tampa FL

The Other Side of Waking could mean a number of things, of course. The first thought is that this is alluding to the opposite of waking, which would be dozing, whatever.
Has anyone considered the different aspects of waking, though? The above response brought me to the conclusion.
I've done a lot of dream research, things like that. I learned to condition myself to lucid dream, which is essentially to be conscious in your dream state. When i was at my prime in this whole thing i was doing, i found that i was aware of the things that were going on around me while i was sleeping, but also dreaming at the same time. Multi-tasking, if you will!
The problem started probably a year after i started lucid dreaming on a regular basis. Dreams become much more exciting when you're completely aware it's a dream, when you realize you can pretty much do whatever you want to do. That's what i was doing. I could change my dreams into pretty much whatever i wanted. But when it came time to wake up, i would find that, while aware of the fact my mind was awake and alert, i couldn't open my eyes, move, even make any sound more than a mild grunt (this became a source of great concern for my girlfriend at the time, who i could hear asking me what was wrong, she got very panicked a lot of the time when this was happening).

I think "The Other Side of Waking" definitely alludes to this, especially since reading the document at the paranormal journal. The Other Side of Waking could mean "Another Part" of waking. Not the opposite.

**Posted:** Sat Nov 01, 2003 2:40 pm

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Today, a young man on acid realized all matter is merely energy condensed into a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There's no such thing as death, life is only a dream in which imagination of ourselves.

XtRaVa

I lucid dream pretty much everytime I dream...started when I had a nightmare and something was coming to get me, and I decided to wake myself up and it worked...next time I could just do what I wanted, wake up if I wanted, or carry on etc...lucid dreaming is weird, but can be kinda cool. As for the other side of waking, i dont think its referring to lucid dreams, it might be dreams...sleeping...or could be that we know that ppl in the matrix are all actually asleep...not that the characters wud know this, but it might just be a lil thing the pm's put in.

**Posted:** Sat Nov 01, 2003 2:58 pm

Insomniac · Decorated Joined: 14 Oct 2003 Posts: 234 Location: 01

**Posted:** Sat Nov 01, 2003 9:56 pm

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"I find it kind of funny, I find it kind of sad.
The dreams in which I'm dying are the best I've ever had."