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[SPEC] [SPOILERS] "Case, Designate, "CLOVERFIELD"
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 [SPEC] [SPOILERS] "Case, Designate, "CLOVERFIELD"
Discussion of evidence pointing to the CASE

Regarding the pictures presented to us on site 01-18-08. StarshipTrooper and I were talking and decided that the purpose of this web site is to build a case file and that these pictures are merely, "exhibits" to be presented in the Case. The Case is to be Designate "Cloverfield" and may be the U.S. against TAG or your spec. I brought this thread over because our discussion was getting a little to Spoilerish. I will let the others help fill in!

Here are the current documents that have been documented for "The Case"

1. The Photos at 01-18-08
2. The Movie: Which was tagged at the beginning and at the end as if it were "owned" by the military as an official file. Both in the beginning and at the end were the words "DoD Property Do Not Duplicate. Also there were DoD official tags: "DoD (7) 31-16-12" and "NGTA 901-836" Not sure what those tags mean in RL if anything.
3. TIDO's Website has been locked down apparently by the Department of External Affairs. If it is part of the builidng of Case Designate "Cloverfield" its evidence number maybe posted at the top 18USCEC 2332b.

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The biggest gripe about the marketing and the movie is that the dates don't match. this could explain that. People who have seen the movie say it takes place in May. The pics say January. Here's my thoughts on how that could be reconciled:

Everything on the 01-18-08 website will be revealed to be part of a case being brought against Tagruato for their part in the attack on New York. Case Designate: Cloverfield, primary evidence in "The City, County And State of New York vs Tagruato".

Because of the nuke strike on New York, that takes place in May '07, they couldn't go in and collect evidence or bodies untill the radiation cleared. Rob and Beth's bodies weren't found untill January of 08, and with them the camera.

The 01-18-pics are stills from the camera footage, and the date is the date those still frames were taken from the video and printed to be added to the file.

Don't know about the writing on the backs, or the timestamps. Maybe that's just part of the marketing and the writing won't be there when the whole file is available
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so in this spec... the attack has already happened right? i mean may 07 passed so this would be separate or have nothing to do wit the ARG? cuz in the IG world the attack hasnt happened... i hope i make sense... Smile

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First off, for there to be writing on the backs of the earlier pictures, then they had to have been printed before MGP appeared.
While doing 9/11 research, I found that the released footage of the Flight 77 crashing into the Pentagon said "Sep. 12, 2001, 17:37:19" and such. Of course, this was not the date of the incident, but, rather, the date the footage was processed.
Applying this logic to Cloverfield: the printed photos (with the writing on their backs) and the camera were found with Rob and Beth, and were processed/filed on the date and times stated.

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I agree that the writing is not part of the case. But a push to help with the ARG.


As for the blurred portions of the film and pictures:

As exhibits in a case against TAG, the authorities would have blurred the designation of a Naval ship perhaps, it would then follow that the "teaser" is being presented in the same case and so the blurred face of the soldier... They may only be blurred for public consumption but not be so during the "Case"

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There is no ARG. I think we pretty much decided that. My theory is that this whole marketing campaign is "in the past".

The "Movie" actually does take place on 1-18, but the EVENTS of the movie, on the video tape, happened in May. Last year. Hey, it's ALTERNATE reality, right?
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sorry but i think i get it now... things arent happenin on our time but have already happened and IG time is past... I GET IT! Smile cool...

edit 2 add: because the movie is actually the gov't lookin at the tape not WHEN the attack happens... BRILLIANT!

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You have great points. I liked this idea. BTW how shcoiekd is everyoen that THIS FRIDAY the movie is officially released.

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Chrizzy wrote:
First off, for there to be writing on the backs of the earlier pictures, then they had to have been printed before MGP appeared.
While doing 9/11 research, I found that the released footage of the Flight 77 crashing into the Pentagon said "Sep. 12, 2001, 17:37:19" and such. Of course, this was not the date of the incident, but, rather, the date the footage was processed.
Applying this logic to Cloverfield: the printed photos (with the writing on their backs) and the camera were found with Rob and Beth, and were processed/filed on the date and times stated.


I knew my theory had something to do with real world events. I remember the date/time thing on the pentagon pics. People were saying they were fake, because the date was wrong, and they proved that that was just the date and time the images were pulled from the video and processed.

Thank you Chrizzy!
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My Bad..

starshiptrooper wrote:
There is no ARG. I think we pretty much decided that. My theory is that this whole marketing campaign is "in the past".

The "Movie" actually does take place on 1-18, but the EVENTS of the movie, on the video tape, happened in May. Last year. Hey, it's ALTERNATE reality, right?


Yes Alternate Reality...bad acronym finder..bad!

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starshiptrooper wrote:
Chrizzy wrote:
First off, for there to be writing on the backs of the earlier pictures, then they had to have been printed before MGP appeared.
While doing 9/11 research, I found that the released footage of the Flight 77 crashing into the Pentagon said "Sep. 12, 2001, 17:37:19" and such. Of course, this was not the date of the incident, but, rather, the date the footage was processed.
Applying this logic to Cloverfield: the printed photos (with the writing on their backs) and the camera were found with Rob and Beth, and were processed/filed on the date and times stated.


I knew my theory had something to do with real world events. I remember the date/time thing on the pentagon pics. People were saying they were fake, because the date was wrong, and they proved that that was just the date and time the images were pulled from the video and processed.

Thank you Chrizzy!


No problem...that should clear up the two problems you had. Something about this theory makes me feel fulfilled. Very Happy

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Nice theory but Reeves already stated that the case designate refers to the name the military gave to the whole incident with MGP.
It has nothing to do with a legal case.
It's a military investigation into the aftermath.

As for the site etc, I think that the site refers to where Rob, Beth and the camera are found. Site 447. There are probably hundreds of sites afterwards in Manhattan, if not thousands. The area formally known as Central Park simply gives a general area for where the site is located.

As to the time difference the explanation is very simple.
When they put out the date in the first trailer it was simply a marketing move to get people exited about the release date.
They filmed in spring or fall like conditions and the film was never to be set on 1-18-08. The date really means nothing but people got hung up on it, like the title, so they went with it. In the end they were left with the choice of changing the dates in the movie to match and having the 99% of people seeing the film, who are clueless about the ARE, be confused as to why the movie looks like spring but takes place in January or forgetting the ARE and leaving it as May. They chose the latter.

The ARE and the film simply don't match. If asked I'm sure they would say that the dates in the ARE simply had the most convenient dating and are meant to be viewed in relation to the dates in the film. In other words it's mid May in the ARE too, simply ignore the date shown.

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deadtotheworld564 wrote:
You have great points. I liked this idea. BTW how shcoiekd is everyoen that THIS FRIDAY the movie is officially released.


i'm havin a party and goin to see it and mid night... thats how "shcoiekd" i am

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If anything, this whole thing is simply a viral marketing campaign for an alternate reality movie. So dates don't mean anything, really.

This movie could've taken place last May, or 10 years ago, but for the movie to match the date of 01-18-08, this is about the only way.

Squirrel, I would add, as a sub heading "Discussing the 01-18-08 pics" to your topic title.
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rocksmars wrote:
Nice theory but Reeves already stated that the case designate refers to the name the military gave to the whole incident with MGP.
It has nothing to do with a legal case.
It's a military investigation into the aftermath.

As for the site etc, I think that the site refers to where Rob, Beth and the camera are found. Site 447. There are probably hundreds of sites afterwards in Manhattan, if not thousands. The area formally known as Central Park simply gives a general area for where the site is located.

As to the time difference the explanation is very simple.
When they put out the date in the first trailer it was simply a marketing move to get people exited about the release date.
They filmed in spring or fall like conditions and the film was never to be set on 1-18-08. The date really means nothing but people got hung up on it, like the title, so they went with it. In the end they were left with the choice of changing the dates in the movie to match and having the 99% of people seeing the film, who are clueless about the ARE, be confused as to why the movie looks like spring but takes place in January or forgetting the ARE and leaving it as May. They chose the latter.

The ARE and the film simply don't match. If asked I'm sure they would say that the dates in the ARE simply had the most convenient dating and are meant to be viewed in relation to the dates in the film. In other words it's mid May in the ARE too, simply ignore the date shown.


Ever seen A Few Good Men?
The last I heard, military investigations were pretty much akin to court cases...just with fancier uniforms.

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