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[Kitrona]

[Trailhead?] progressthroughtrial

[MTHoopla]

[02:26] Hi, I'm a friend of Kitrona's.
[02:27] Something she said you mentioned struck a bit of a chord with me... I think I live either in or near the no man's land you were talking about. I'm in southeastern New Mexico.
[02:27] progressthroughtrial: Interesting
[02:27] Actually, Billy the Kid's (supposed) grave is a day trip for me.
[02:28] progressthroughtrial: Ahh one of our little screw ups. He met one of ancestors and was shown a few too many tricks
[02:29] *nod* You mentioned native americans as well, I'm white as the driven snow to look at, but my... gah, I forget how many greats exactly, but my howevermany greats grandmother on my mom's dad's side walked in the trail of tears.
[02:31] So, you say he got shown one too many tricks, did he have to be put down or something because of it?
[02:31] progressthroughtrial: That problem took care of itself but it did show the need for restraint
[02:32] From what I've heard and read, he really abused what he was shown, it sounds like. Slippery little guy, he was.
[02:33] progressthroughtrial: Yeah, but he had some true talent of his own as well
[02:33] What sort of tricks, if I might ask? If anything, it sounds like I'd be learning about my ancestry.
[02:34] progressthroughtrial: Simple things that didn't really have names back then. Persistance of vision, tracking, theatrics
[02:35] The last two I understand. But what is persistance of vision?
[02:36] progressthroughtrial: Your eyes fill up gaps in between the flashing of the rods and cone inside youe eyeballs. This maens that its possible to miss slight details
[02:36] *nod* So this would, for lack of a better description, give you more detail-oriented vision.
[02:37] progressthroughtrial: Exactly, and a slightly improved response time when it comes to fast drawing
[02:38] Improved reaction and the ability to notice more detail... nice trick, that.
[02:38] progressthroughtrial: Which was used in tandem with the others to make for a nice haymaker of a criminal.

Huh. So Billy the Kid was an awry little bastard that got out of hand.

[02:40] progressthroughtrial: brb
[02:40] brunomccloud1389: Alright, I'll do the same. Could use a drink...
[02:41] brunomccloud1389: I return~
[02:41] progressthroughtrial: Ok
[02:45] progressthroughtrial: Next question?
[02:45] brunomccloud1389: Hm. Give me a moment or two, need to let the caffeine take hold.
[02:46] progressthroughtrial: Sure thing
[02:47] brunomccloud1389: Oh, something to make my communication a bit easier, which set of pronouns would you prefer I use with you?
[02:47] brunomccloud1389: I don't like to get things like that incorrect.
[02:48] progressthroughtrial: How do you mean?
[02:48] brunomccloud1389: Would you prefer I use masculine (he, his) or feminine (her, hers) pronouns?
[02:49] brunomccloud1389: Bit of an odd question, I know, just something I hate to get wrong. Don't really know why.
[02:50] brunomccloud1389: As for a more on-topic question, what more can you tell me about these wild children you spoke with my friend about?
[02:50] progressthroughtrial: I understand. Though it might be releasing too much information, I am male
[02:50] brunomccloud1389: Thank you.

It's a dude! (and using the wrong pronouns really does bug the life out of me.)

[02:55] progressthroughtrial: Anything else you would like to know? I must tell you that I cannot inform you of everything.
[02:56] brunomccloud1389: Don't worry, I understand.
[02:57] brunomccloud1389: Well, from what I understand, they had natural abilities? What were these? General descriptions are fine, but specifics are very appreciated.
[03:00] progressthroughtrial: Well I hate to disappoint the ...
[03:01] brunomccloud1389: If anything, it might explain how I'm able to stare people down so easily. I've been threatened more times than I can count, but never gotten in a physical fight.
[03:01] progressthroughtrial: What is it called? The movies with the super hero team?
[03:02] progressthroughtrial: I haven't kept up to date with the fiction
[03:02] brunomccloud1389: Well, there's the Fantastic Four. They're making one for The Avengers, but it hasn't been completed yet.
[03:02] brunomccloud1389: They're releasing one for The Watchmen, too, I think they'd count as a superhero team.
[03:02] brunomccloud1389: I haven't really kept up all that well myself.
[03:03] progressthroughtrial: Well we don't have any of that, but natural charisma, faster response times, better regulated hormone production are all catalouged results.
[03:04] brunomccloud1389: Aha. X-men! That's the one.
[03:04] brunomccloud1389: Sort of like mutants, much as I dislike using the term in this case.
[03:04] progressthroughtrial: Yes thats it. My sibling loved it.
[03:05] brunomccloud1389: Very good movie series, though the third went some... interesting places that I didn't expect.
[03:05] progressthroughtrial: I wouldn't know.
[03:06] brunomccloud1389: They killed off too many main characters too fast for my taste. But that's irrelevant at the moment. ...Say, do you have these abilities?
[03:08] progressthroughtrial: No other than the "basics" and a high platlet count I am an ordinary ... whatever
[03:08] brunomccloud1389: High platelet count.
[03:08] brunomccloud1389: Cool, less bleeding.
[03:08] brunomccloud1389: And possibly faster healing. Very spiffy.
[03:09] progressthroughtrial: Faster healing and larger scars, trade-off
[03:10] brunomccloud1389: Well, that's true.
[03:10] brunomccloud1389: You seem to not want to call yourself human?
[03:10] brunomccloud1389: You called yourself an 'ordinary ... whatever'
[03:11] progressthroughtrial: Well I am definatly Homo Sapein. But humanity is sometime difined differently.
[03:11] brunomccloud1389: How do you mean?
[03:12] progressthroughtrial: humanity in its current context is a series of genetic and moral codes. I follow one
[03:13] brunomccloud1389: So it'd be different than the norm?
[03:13] progressthroughtrial: I'm not sure I understand that question
[03:14] brunomccloud1389: Your moral code. You made it sound like it might be different than what's generally accepted.
[03:14] progressthroughtrial: Yes
[03:14] brunomccloud1389: Which would make you and I rather alike, then, though ours might differ somewhat.
[03:17] progressthroughtrial: Our purpose is the immediate and direct accomplishment of our goals becasue people tend to become distracted in combat situations, certain studies were done on the human mind.
[03:17] brunomccloud1389: *nod* I can think of a couple of those that were made public, yes.
[03:18] brunomccloud1389: What did the ones you speak of entail, if I may ask?

Oh shi-

[03:18] progressthroughtrial: Have you ever heard of the Mad Bomber?
[03:19] brunomccloud1389: I've heard of a lot of mad bombers, the news loves that term. Not sure I've heard of a specific Mad Bomber, though.
[03:21] progressthroughtrial: I believe, if memeory serves, that his name was george metzker. Though I am not certain of the spelling. He was a slightly insane individual who planted several explosives throughout New York in an attempt to retaliate against his firing from ConEdison.
[03:21] brunomccloud1389: *nod* Reading a bit about him now.
[03:21] progressthroughtrial: Tell me when your done
[03:22] brunomccloud1389: You can go ahead, I'm a decent multitasker.
[03:24] progressthroughtrial: well I'm actually telling your friend about it now. In between a need for more "focus" on the battlefield and the lack of cohesive trust in the project several tests were done in the fields of sociopathy
[03:25] brunomccloud1389: *nod* If what I remember is correct, sociopaths can be rather single-minded. A lack of emotion can do that.
[03:26] progressthroughtrial: Oh emotion exists, it just doesn't factor into decision making
[03:28] brunomccloud1389: This is true. I sometimes get psychological disorders mixed up.
[03:30] progressthroughtrial: Not a mix up. You just haven't seen it up close. I may not be one, but I've seen it enough for an intimate understanding
[03:31] progressthroughtrial: And I've had "trials"
[03:31] brunomccloud1389: *nod* You sound like a combat vet, actually. The one's I've spoken to when I visit the VA when my grandfather has to go. You have the same tone of voice.
[03:32] progressthroughtrial: Probable
[03:32] brunomccloud1389: What sort of trials?
[03:33] progressthroughtrial: The Indians had a test of manhood called "The Gauntlet"
[03:35] progressthroughtrial: I'll see you tomorrow
[03:35] brunomccloud1389: Alright.
[03:35] brunomccloud1389: Reading up on the gauntlet now, sounds... painful.
[03:35] brunomccloud1389: To say the least.
[03:35] brunomccloud1389: Good to speak with you.

Double oh shi--- GROUND FLOOR, so glad I'm in on it.

Google Books info all up in dis, about da gauntlet.
http://tinyurl.com/64y6yk

Timestamp discrepancies are due to time zones.

[Gregoriev]

Re: [Trailhead?] progressthroughtrial

[Kitrona]

Like I said, I would've, but I don't know how.

[Gregoriev]

[magnet0]

What?
I don't think I have time to read through the WHOLE thing twice. Can you just post the key points, please?

[Gregoriev]

[Gregoriev]

[Kitrona]

8/14/2008 10:39 PM blinkdontSPLATrocketmail.com: Congratulations
8/14/2008 10:39 PM : ?
8/14/2008 10:40 PM blinkdontSPLATrocketmail.com: Your E-mail account is now active
8/14/2008 10:40 PM blinkdontSPLATrocketmail.com: Your name and password are: kitrona
8/14/2008 10:40 PM blinkdontSPLATrocketmail.com: Password: ****
8/14/2008 10:40 PM blinkdontSPLATrocketmail.com: Thank you for your time
8/14/2008 10:41 PM : No it's not.
8/14/2008 10:42 PM : What is this about?

I checked and it says the ID is not taken. No response.

8/14/2008 10:46 PM blinkdontSPLATrocketmail.com: kitronaSPLATymail.com is now active
8/14/2008 10:47 PM blinkdontSPLATrocketmail.com: All glitches cured
8/14/2008 10:47 PM : Same password?
8/14/2008 10:47 PM : Thank you.

I checked and there's a wav in the inbox. Edit: I clicked on the wrong wav.

[Solonor]

Interesting Sir Francis Galton was darwins cousin and mentioned in several writtings about Darwin. He did do studdies on Natvie Americians and Africans.

"No where were the principles of eugenics more accepted than America. Eugenics was adopted by the Oneida Community in the mid-19th century. The first American eugenics law was passed in Indiana in 1907 and by 1936 there were 35 states that had such laws. As a result, large numbers of individuals in America were forcibly sterilized�primarily poor children taken in by state institutions. We do not have an estimate yet of the actual number of people sterilized. As these operations were sometimes conducted covertly, an accurate assessment is probably not possible. The mentally ill and retarded were the most frequent victims of this program. There were also, however, children and youths sterilized. These included unwed mothers and boys in reformatories and orphanages, especially if they were judged to be retarded. The extent of the sterilizations varied widely from state to state, but was most pronounced in states that were largely Protestant because of the opposition of the Catholic Church. There were also large numbers of sterilizations conducted on blacks in the South by the largely white medical establishment. These were known as Mississippi appendectomies. An outgrowth of the eugenics movement was the popularity of beautiful baby competitions in the early 20th century."

Wow this is what hitler used as his basis for genocide.

[Kitrona]

Yeah, but in this case it's the opposite: not preventing life to guide it but creating it.

[t3hreaper]

first off, tl;dr.

second, what could Darwin's cousin have to do with ANY of the making of the war heroes thing.

[Kitrona]

On the email I was given, my last name is put in as Anortik, which is Turkish for anorthic, which means "having three unequal crystal axes intersecting at oblique angles; "triclinic system" [syn: triclinic] [ant: monoclinic]". I don't know what that has to do with anything, but I think it has some sort of meaning.

My address was put down as 33458, which is the zip code for Jupiter, FL.

I still haven't had a chance to listen to all of the wav yet. Edit: I clicked on the wrong wav.

[Kitrona]

The wav that was emailed to me.

[Tenshi Akui]

Very interesting. May have to check it out further later.