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darkcyder
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 1:41 pm
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MrToasty
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Vidsketch password is:
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dead rock


ETA - attaching darkcyder's image.
ETA - new attachment as you can see all of the i's in this one.
Any reason why some of the letters are green and others white? I'm assuming a dot simply means a space. Transcribed then would be:
Quote:
BEIFLIIMQC IKZLIL I IIWQCI HIIC IBUFBL RGQIREIXBIEQIO

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 1:50 pm
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rags
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I'm no good with cryptograms. Sad

I thought that the pairs of off-colored letters might be a hint that the code was actually an XY type cipher where two letters are decoded into 1, but not every part of the code is in pairs. ;/

It might be a multiple-stage type deal where we have to solve a cipher first and then decode it a second time as a word jumble or something of the like.

Here's the usage breakdown if it helps anyone. This is the number of times each letter appears in the code:

A 0
B 4
C 3
D 0
E 3
F 2
G 1
H 1
I 16
J 0
K 1
L 4
M 1
N 0
O 1
P 0
Q 4
R 2
S 0
T 0
U 1
V 0
W 1
X 1
Y 0
Z 1

It would appear that I in the code could be E if this were a typical alphanumeric. But with only 47 characters having 1/3 of the code being E doesn't make much sense to me.

If it is a scrabled word type deal- here's a website that'll unscramble jumbled words:

http://ull.chemistry.uakron.edu/solveit.html

PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 3:51 pm
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MrToasty
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Whole lotta I's - 16 out of 47 characters, over a third. All of the dots come before I's as well except for the last one (but may be simply a result of the sheer number of them).

PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 3:54 pm
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It looks to me like this is a Substitution Cipher puzzle.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 6:28 pm
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MrToasty
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WTF?! I put my answers in, all but the last known correct, at least an hour before 12am EDT and I only received 8 points per answer!!! Screwed out of points! Damn they need to get these glitches worked out. Anybody know where to email to get this corrected?

PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:02 pm
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Sovrnone
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I'm thinking the dots represent spaces and the double || is not "I" but "A."
Notice there are no "A" found anywhere in the code.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 12:10 pm
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Echelon Three
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By far we agree the I's are most populous. But the double I's could be any letter. They aren't necessarily "a"s because "a" doesn't appear in the enciphered message--that's the point of it being encoded so that we can't just say that that's "a".

However, I'm going to replace the double I's with "a"s (but coded ones!) for the sake of putting it through a cipher. Rolling Eyes Go figure.

Anyway, if the remaining I's (which there are still ten of) are E's, then our message has a one-letter word of "E". Is there any chance that the message will be in Latin, and that we'll have to translate the message? Or is a substitution cipher out of the question?

PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 2:37 pm
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MrToasty
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Saw this mentioned at the EA UK site - the genealogy video has been changed to update the code at the end slightly. They've highlighted two more letters than before (EQ at the end). Not exactly sure when this changed and haven't had a chance to think about what it means yet. Any ideas? Any other changes we haven't noticed?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:27 pm
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Raithgar
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had to discard all my other theories to figure this out, but was wonding if anybody tried a phonic test of the letters highlighted.. came to mind when I was hoping this wasn't a lulz speak.. so far I've came up with the possible..

BEMQKZ UF RGREXB (prior to the new highlighted letters)
because of regrets

The only catch is I'm unsure how the M or the last B would be used.. nor if the new highlighted letters may add or derail this idea.

Edit: I have tried the phrase "Because of Regrets" as the answer and was incorrect.. maybe incompleate or maybe wrong direction

PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 5:19 pm
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Ryukan
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If you take the highlighted letter combos in relation to the dots as spaces than it could read ...
BEMQ KZ UF RGREXB

PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 6:12 pm
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Kedyn
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This one has me stumped as well, so I'm just throwing out ideas.

If this is modeled after ancient Etruscan, then it could be a phonetic message. Etruscan writing also had words separated by dots, like in the picture. Only weird thing about Etruscan is that it is sometimes read from right to left, rather than left to right.

ANOTHER THING : Since there are two lines, it could be written "Boustrophedon", which is lines that are read alternating, like left to right, then right to left. But, if it's the same as some ancient Boustrophedon inscriptions, it'll go from the bottom to the top, right to left. I could be wrong though, since none of the letters are backwards, but it's still an idea.

So, you may want to try working from the bottom right up, or the bottom left up, and seeing what you can find.

Here are my sources :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etruscan_language#Writing_system

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boustrophedon

PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:58 pm
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catherwood
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This may look like a lame attempt to bump a thread to regenerate interest in this cipher... but I really did have a question.

The first image I saw was posted at this link:
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll145/darkcyder/deadspacecode3.jpg?t=1220895573
but it looks to me like it started with BE_FLII... there was a space where there is now a letter.

After that was posted, MrToasty replied with an attachment which differed slightly (there was no border, as i recall) but it still begain with BE_FLII... Unfortunately, he replaced the attachment (rather than adding another for comparison).

Now my question is: Was the recent addition of the letter "I" in the 3rd position: an error correction? a significant change in the clue? a hint? Or maybe there was something about how you are getting the image, from a screen capture perhaps?

I'm still stumped.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 12:49 am
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MrToasty
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The first image posted with the missing letter was a bad screen grab of the video. My first image was correct at the time as I saved the frame directly from the video itself in Media Player Classic. The only addition since has been the 8th green highlight. The video itself changed size as well as you can tell if you compare the two images I posted. Still stumped here as well.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:49 pm
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KiNgDeeM
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any luck with #8 on 1.3?
any luck with #8 on 1.3?

any luck with #8 on 1.3?

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