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[R2] Injection/Result day 29/08
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KLind
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OwnD wrote:
Kinda obvious that he survived Rolling Eyes

was just hoping it would lead to something because I had missed the video :X

You can still view all of the videos.

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Yeah, just go into the video section in PA, and the new video is the first one at the top left.

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Hora-Quan
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Sid MacMillan wrote:
Project Genisis is in Byrce Canyon, Utah, not icleand, where the game actually starts.

Though what is this of heavy fire? Can't be Chimera, it's 1950, not after R:FOM.

[EDIT] Or it could be, as it states a similar structure found by the archeologist has been found under Base Satation Genisis, possibly the chimera want it back?

Btw on my last comment = FAIL:(


I thought we threw out that conventional timeline during these past two months. No, it's the Chimera. What else could they be? AAA doesn't have that kind of firepower. Russians are dead. Cloven? they aren't supposed to be on this continent. The Chimera were in North America for some time (did they say two years in the one Chicago video?) before the big invasion. Base Station Genesis? It's a tower, much like the one found in Nevada, maybe South Dakota, and everywhere in the UK. The thing Quimble found was some sort of ship.

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Must be the chimera, but they must be attacking PA, not PG, Capelli's in PG and we know he survives.

Now we know that the chimera were here long before humans (1 theory proven correct), but any geusses on what their full mission is? And what happened before they came to earth?

One guy on NeoGAF forums gave a good theory that they were there during the ice age, but the ice age ended, causing them to die/evlove into humans.

Any guesses?

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Some of the old codes for srpanet don't work anymore, like get help, get commanderholiday, etc. But other old codes have been updated, like get tip and get diseasecontrol.
I think if they were going to close absolutely everything, they would have just changed the srpanet to the new version without the node thing, but they changed some files, they changed the srpanet (the run command doesn't appear) and they deleted other older files, like get help, which they didn't need to delete....
or maybe I am just hoping they don't finish here and I am trying to see some light lol

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Seyelback wrote:
OwnD wrote:
In the first intro video to R2, you can make out the words "survivors of Project Abraham" in a break in the voiceover. So something happened to Project Abraham, and it hasn't shown what happened to Hale yet. I definitely think there's going to be a bit more to this ARG...

(P.S.) looking for a YouTube link and the time you can hear the words

EDIT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcwmzJkOk7E

This is Ted Price's E3 presentation. The words are at 1:34

Double EDIT: Eh, in the end letter it looks like it says that Hale survived the "short-lived coma"


yeah, he survived... there is a video in PA between Hale and Cassie, where they talk after he wakes up from the coma. He says he is leaving to fight and leaving her, she is upset and he blames her in some way for using us to decide who lived and who died, she says that we saved her life. And then Hale leaves the room.

well.. anyway, we knew he survived and then went to fight the Chimera in Resistance 1! lol


except this is all happening after Resistance1/during Resistance 2... which you can tell because the Chimera are attacking America, where before they were only in Europe...

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Seyelback wrote:
Some of the old codes for srpanet don't work anymore, like get help, get commanderholiday, etc. But other old codes have been updated, like get tip and get diseasecontrol.
I think if they were going to close absolutely everything, they would have just changed the srpanet to the new version without the node thing, but they changed some files, they changed the srpanet (the run command doesn't appear) and they deleted other older files, like get help, which they didn't need to delete....
or maybe I am just hoping they don't finish here and I am trying to see some light lol
If yyou notice when the terminal boots up, it says that the quarantine failed. What is plan b though?

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captainsecurity wrote:
Seyelback wrote:
Some of the old codes for srpanet don't work anymore, like get help, get commanderholiday, etc. But other old codes have been updated, like get tip and get diseasecontrol.
I think if they were going to close absolutely everything, they would have just changed the srpanet to the new version without the node thing, but they changed some files, they changed the srpanet (the run command doesn't appear) and they deleted other older files, like get help, which they didn't need to delete....
or maybe I am just hoping they don't finish here and I am trying to see some light lol
If yyou notice when the terminal boots up, it says that the quarantine failed. What is plan b though?


The LDP, I presume.

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Cado wrote:
Seyelback wrote:
OwnD wrote:
In the first intro video to R2, you can make out the words "survivors of Project Abraham" in a break in the voiceover. So something happened to Project Abraham, and it hasn't shown what happened to Hale yet. I definitely think there's going to be a bit more to this ARG...

(P.S.) looking for a YouTube link and the time you can hear the words

EDIT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcwmzJkOk7E

This is Ted Price's E3 presentation. The words are at 1:34

Double EDIT: Eh, in the end letter it looks like it says that Hale survived the "short-lived coma"


yeah, he survived... there is a video in PA between Hale and Cassie, where they talk after he wakes up from the coma. He says he is leaving to fight and leaving her, she is upset and he blames her in some way for using us to decide who lived and who died, she says that we saved her life. And then Hale leaves the room.

well.. anyway, we knew he survived and then went to fight the Chimera in Resistance 1! lol


except this is all happening after Resistance1/during Resistance 2... which you can tell because the Chimera are attacking America, where before they were only in Europe...
Sorry guy, but this all happens before R1. Look at the dates of all the documents.

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Sid MacMillan wrote:
Must be the chimera, but they must be attacking PA, not PG, Capelli's in PG and we know he survives.

Now we know that the chimera were here long before humans (1 theory proven correct), but any geusses on what their full mission is? And what happened before they came to earth?

One guy on NeoGAF forums gave a good theory that they were there during the ice age, but the ice age ended, causing them to die/evlove into humans.

Any guesses?


I gave a similar one in myresistance.net a while ago... (or was in the PS3 UK forums?), oh well.. I cannot find it, but more or less was this:

The Chimera came during the Ice age, but when the ice age was ending, and due to the overheating thing, they found it difficult to survive in the surface, they created the underground towers to protect themselves, but this was not enough, so they started to move to another planet. They buried in those old towers some of the leaders / angels who died during the exhile, keeping them in some contained rooms in a kind of coma, and they left. After millions of years of evolution in that other planet, they developed not only a better cooling system, but also a way to bring to life to those old angels / leaders, so they came back to Earth, to dig around the places where they though that old towers were.
the virus in the Earth was weak after the Ice age ended, and it acted as the vacines do for some of the post-ice age humans that got in contact with it and didnīt die. In years of evolution, this meant that somehow this immune system passed to the genetic info of some humans, so at some point a small group of our ancestors had a immune system against the virus, wich was passed to the next generations. If the virus were still alive, this would mean only the immunes woud survive, but as the virus died in the surface after the Ice age, this immune system was not an important element in our evolution. So now, those who have some kind of resistance in their immune system because of their ancestors, go into the coma and don't mute in a Chimera (like Hale or Capelli), while the same exposition to the same virus for other humans is fatal (like the rest of the test subjects). This could be the reason why they said they expected to fail a 85%, because they estimate that only 15% of the human race have that gene that allows them to have the resistance and don't mute.
i don't know why, but this thing about the Chimera being here and leaving and then coming back reminds me somehow to Stargate... lol
Now the next question is: why has Hale 19h left in R2?

option 1) I think that maybe although they have that resistance, when they get in contact with the crawlers (which have a large amount of virus) the immune system only slows down the process, instead of actually stopping it completely, so maybe they know that this is the time he has before turning completely into a Chimera, so he should kill all the angels or find a vacine that cures him completely.

option 2) Some people have spotted a strange device in Haleīs head, which they said it could be an explosive device to kill him after 19h. Why? well... maybe because of the said above, to avoid the posibility of him turning into a Chimera.

option 3) Maybe everybody has 19h to live, because the Chimera will reach the main base where the main angel is in around that time, and this will make the virus spread completely on Earth.

option 4) Maybe that is the time it will take to all those Chimera spaceships to arrive, with a massive Chimeran army inside, so he has to kill the angels before that time limit.

and I can't think now any other option lol


By the way, can you post a link to that theory? i would like to see who thought the same I did...

Edit: I found my post. I said about this in myresistance.net > ARG thread, August 02. Page 183. Lol

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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=324011&page=4 - it's a post by Basch, 19th post down. His theory has a lot more, but it makes sense.

WARNING! LONG DREARY THEORY AHEAD!! IF YOU DON'T LIKE READING, GO FISHING!

Personally, I think the chimera were a race before humans on earth, but something I've thought of is think of the name Hybrid - it means the a creature made of two species:

now I think creatures of chimeran origin, ie the menials, are like humans but they're for the chimeran purpose. The hybrids, however, are the genetic breakthrough of human/chimeran crossbreed. Eventhough these things have six eyes already and shit, but I think because they're called hybrids they're part human, ie a chimeran-like human ie a menial + a regular human = hybrid. As is others ie Steelheads, grims, Hardfangs etc.

Now, I think it's possible they need america for something big, ie like you said, A leader angel, but it could be more than that. Someone even gave a theory they need to open a portal to other worlds, this portal could be activated somewhere in america. However they obviously need the towers for something, not just as a housing for angels, or to cool the earth. Post your ideas?

And like that guy said in the Neogaf forum, the leaked eurogamer trailer last year had a narrator that could be a chimeran hive mind. This is a possibility, but I think it's Cloven as it says;

"I was once, just like you, and just like them..."

however I could be wrong, as it then says;

"You think you created me, but I've been waiting for an eternity. Waiting...for the reunion."

So what could this be?

As for Hale, I think he has 19 hours left to live as he has the virus in him and is going to transform him, and, apart from Capelli, you know what happened to the others.

Also at your third option, I'd hardly see the need for a widespread virus, after all, the chimera took down europe in 3 months, in 2 years they could've taken over the earth, besides america, but I'm likely wrong.

and at option 4, the chimeran will look like they will land already, possibly by smaller ships, and they have goliaths and stalkers in tow. The battleships are obviously to decimate cities, but do they have another purpose, ie like launching spires?

Good theories though, no question about it.

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Sayelback, I think Option 1 is probably gonna be the closest. Perhaps Hale's running a bit hot now, and in 19 hours his organs will overheat and give out.

Anyone else notice the date discrepencies in the Quimbie documents? The article where the Men In Black stop the press conference is dated 9/14/47, the letter is 9/16/47, the interview is 9/22/50, but then the article about his death is dated 9/28/47. I'm guessing 42E goofed and meant for the interview to be dated 9/22/47, not 50.

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they put in a lot of work for this arg, so expect a slip up.

Another question i forgot to put is, how did the U.S. Goverment know this whole chimeran thing beforehand?

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Sid MacMillan, yeah, the portals are a good idea... again, this reminds me of Stargate...

grunj, I would also vote for my option 1, lol
I do definitely think that they need America for something... mmmm

Maybe the towers have some kind of technology inside to create a kind of laser, and if you activate all the towers at the same time and the towers "shoot" the lasers, these will connect in the sky in some point (like when we did the triangulations for the signals map lol) and this is what creates the portal for them to come in from the other planet... what do you think?

Edit: Basch is NeoBasch in myresistance.net and yep... he thought about that long before me lol

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That's a good theory, but I think the guy who mentioned the portal (it was on the gamestop forum, can't remember which post) said it's possible that they'll use it to jump to other dimensions, but I think i misread and that theory is possibly beyond chimera.

It's a good theory seyelback, using them as a triangulating point for their other planet. Another way is that they could use earth as a weapon, (think cybermen from Doctor Who) like a massive laser/planet ripping device or SOMETHING COMPLETELY MAD, but that's just my theory added on top of yours.

But the towers were there before, so it could've been used for something else, rather than a laser/portal/weapon, any ideas folks?

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