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waitress#2
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I watched the show tonight on TV but I haven't seen the leaked version. Does anyone have a link? I would like to compare it with what I saw tonight.
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:41 am
kosmopol
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People, one more time, I don't want to dispose anybody to some illegal actions, but since I'm outside of US, I would be glad to watch the pilot, because if they produce global ARG, they should also think about non-US-residents out there...
Anyway, if somebody send me PM with a possible link to the pilot, I'll be in your debt and will translate everything German, Russian and Japanese contents of this ARG (since Russian seems to have some relevance in the Fringe hidden video and in the Fringe comic).
And I won't tell anybody the name of cool unfictionist, who PMed me about the link. And no, I'm not working for fox
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:49 am
MNPundit
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*sigh* I missed it.
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:01 am
madamimadam
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The show will be re-airing some time on Sunday for those who missed it, and eventually there will be a full online episode.
The full episode is now available.
Screencaps we may need:
The little "fringe will be back in..." screens
Kayak
Parts around the dream sequence with flashing things.
Things of Importance:
Bright flashing lights
That's all I got from the episode itself.
EDIT: I know the ZENO thing has already mentioned, but I thought I'd give a little extra spec. Zeno's paradoxes all deal with mindbending problems where time or distance is cut into halves, which are then cut into halves themselves, and so on into infinity. Which, of course, gives you a reverse set of Fibonacci numbers.
Philip K. Dick, a popular sci-fi author, wrote a story based on Zeno's paradoxes. The story featured... a frog.
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:48 am
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zeno zeno on kayak
I found this video regarding zeno's paradox. As mentioned elsewhere zeno was on the kayak in Olivia's dream sequence. Also on MD's website in the aerospace section there is mention of Zeno's Initative, which has to do with time travel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jd6MWUl9Rmc
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:45 am
madamimadam
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don't know that this is a kloo, but I thought it was interesting.
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 9:08 am
thebruce
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just fwiw, I've updated the kayak comparison pic on flickr to focus on the official pilot =P
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 9:35 am
madamimadam
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Kayak Kloos:
ZENO: References Zeno's Paradoxes, which were heavy in Fibonacci-isms.
Aleph: The Aleph symbol is used in math to describe infinite sets, such as the Fibonacci sequence.
CONSTANT: Just another way to describe Fibonacci.
The Colored Dots: Dunno. Any ideas?
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 9:46 am
deletia
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This is unrelated to current conversations but fits in with the thread. There's a Massive Dynamic logo on the nubbin (technical jargon, I know) of the jet engine of the plane that carried the virus after it lands. You can see it here .
Also, the virus plane was flown in on the brand-spankin-new PEARL navigational system, which is mentioned at the MD web site:
MD Aerospace page wrote:
The acclaimed PEARL aerocontrol system, developed by MD's Fleming-Monroe division, promises to reduce flight delays by as much as 30% in the next few years.
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 11:15 am
madamimadam
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deletia wrote:
This is unrelated to current conversations but fits in with the thread. There's a Massive Dynamic logo on the nubbin (technical jargon, I know) of the jet engine of the plane that carried the virus after it lands. You can see it here .
Also, the virus plane was flown in on the brand-spankin-new PEARL navigational system, which is mentioned at the MD web site:
MD Aerospace page wrote:
The acclaimed PEARL aerocontrol system, developed by MD's Fleming-Monroe division, promises to reduce flight delays by as much as 30% in the next few years.
I was totally going to mention it, but I wanted to take a closer look at the nubbin before saying so. do you have a screencap?
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 11:52 am
vapor
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madamimadam wrote:
I was totally going to mention it, but I wanted to take a closer look at the nubbin before saying so. do you have a screencap?
Here's one I got from the fringetelevision.com screen caps section
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:06 pm
madamimadam
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Another thing to check: the MD advert after the show. I can't be sure, because of the quick succession (like a general electric commercial), but I think I saw the leaf and the airplane insignias. Can we get a screencap of that?
EDIT: False alarm. The leaf was a maple leaf and the aerospace symbol was a turbine+wing.
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:47 pm
Pixiestix
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deletia wrote:
This is unrelated to current conversations but fits in with the thread. There's a Massive Dynamic logo on the nubbin
I just assumed, but this would make sense if they helped develope the plane that could not only fly itself, but land itself on co-pilot.
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:03 pm
ARimmer
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glowingmonkeys.com
The pattern has to do with biological symmetry. That's why there are six fingers on the hands, that's why the twins, that's why the leaf and the apple. The apple was tricky because of the way its cut, but it is also symmetrical.
I'd also think that this 'twinning' will be evident in the entire series. Also leading me to believe that Walter's 'son' is a clone.
Anyway.
I think it's about symmetry.
EDIT: It's about the golden ratio. Or Da Vinci's Divine Proportions. That explains the triangles on the hands.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symmetry
The symbol on the frog's back is Phi.
The newspaper has a pen and a rose on it as the agent enters Massive Dynamics. Penrose.
The access code on the door at the end is 112400
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:00 pm
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signguy
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ARimmer wrote:
glowingmonkeys.com
The pattern has to do with biological symmetry. That's why there are six fingers on the hands, that's why the twins, that's why the leaf and the apple. The apple was tricky because of the way its cut, but it is also symmetrical.
I'd also think that this 'twinning' will be evident in the entire series. Also leading me to believe that Walter's 'son' is a clone.
Anyway.
I think it's about symmetry.
EDIT: It's about the golden ratio. Or Da Vinci's Divine Proportions. That explains the triangles on the hands.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symmetry
The symbol on the frog's back is Phi.
The newspaper has a pen and a rose on it as the agent enters Massive Dynamics. Penrose.
Ooookay, well thats all fine and speculatory, as is most this early on. I see how that CAN relate to the images, but what does that have to do with the "Pattern" as described in the storyline? Missing child returns unaged...sheep circles...reciting real time locations of carrier battle groups? And what does glowing monkeys have to do with your post? Not sure I catch the corollary.
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:21 pm
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